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I have 300-500 bucks to spend on a Pioneer car CD player

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
What is your total budget? Also, do you need everything, or just the head unit and an amp? For what you want to do, the 750MP seems to be a perfect fit for what you want to do. 🙂


I would need the Head unit, Amp( If it will give me better sound ) and speakers ( A pair of tweeters, front speakers and rear. Budget can be worked around pending on the performance that I will be getting. I won't be using a sub.
 
Alright, the ones you linked me to are perfect since they are pre amped and would be pass through an amp before going to the speakers? What's the significance of having a hgih volt output?? More power??

Ok, you will have two types of outputs from the head unit. You will have "high level" outputs from the head unit that are powered by the cunits internal amp. You can hook up four speakers off the head unit's amp.

The second type is a "low level", or pre-amp which is a non amplified output meant for an external amp. The standard voltage for these outputs is 2v, higher output models have 4v outputs, and the newest high end models, like the 750MP have even higher 6v outputs. The advantage to having a higher voltage output to the amp is a cleaner, stronger signal to the amp.


Also, you said 3 external amps, does that mean that each pair of speakers would need to go through an amp?!?!

No, you would have two sets of "high" outputs for running speakers of the internal amp...front and rear, right and left.

You would also have three set's of "preamps", non amplified outputs for connecting to an external amp...front, rear, and non-fading sub.
 
Originally posted by: pillage2001
Originally posted by: Insane3D
What is your total budget? Also, do you need everything, or just the head unit and an amp? For what you want to do, the 750MP seems to be a perfect fit for what you want to do. 🙂


I would need the Head unit, Amp( If it will give me better sound ) and speakers ( A pair of tweeters, front speakers and rear. Budget can be worked around pending on the performance that I will be getting. I won't be using a sub.

What kind of car? What size speakers are in it now? I would suggest normal 2 or 3 way speakers for the rear, a component setup for the front, and maybe one amp and a small sub...or, budget permitting, another amp for the components in front.

What type of music do you generally listen too?
 
A ~$300 Pioneer is not bad at all.
Anyway, you said you have $300-500 to spend for a head unit. Why don't ya get a Nakamichi?
I like Soundstream amp and Dynaudio speakers.
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Alright, the ones you linked me to are perfect since they are pre amped and would be pass through an amp before going to the speakers? What's the significance of having a hgih volt output?? More power??

Ok, you will have two types of outputs from the head unit. You will have "high level" outputs from the head unit that are powered by the cunits internal amp. You can hook up four speakers off the head unit's amp.

The second type is a "low level", or pre-amp which is a non amplified output meant for an external amp. The standard voltage for these outputs is 2v, higher output models have 4v outputs, and the newest high end models, like the 750MP have even higher 6v outputs. The advantage to having a higher voltage output to the amp is a cleaner, stronger signal to the amp.


Also, you said 3 external amps, does that mean that each pair of speakers would need to go through an amp?!?!

No, you would have two sets of "high" outputs for running speakers of the internal amp...front and rear, right and left.

You would also have three set's of "preamps", non amplified outputs for connecting to an external amp...front, rear, and non-fading sub.

With all that sorted out. I would need a multichannel amp to power the rear and fronts?? What about the tweeters? Can I just use the amped output lines from the player??

 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: pillage2001
Originally posted by: Insane3D
What is your total budget? Also, do you need everything, or just the head unit and an amp? For what you want to do, the 750MP seems to be a perfect fit for what you want to do. 🙂


I would need the Head unit, Amp( If it will give me better sound ) and speakers ( A pair of tweeters, front speakers and rear. Budget can be worked around pending on the performance that I will be getting. I won't be using a sub.

What kind of car? What size speakers are in it now? I would suggest normal 2 or 3 way speakers for the rear, a component setup for the front, and maybe one amp and a small sub...or, budget permitting, another amp for the components in front.

What type of music do you generally listen too?

Problem is, I don't know what car I would get when I go home to Malaysia. So far, my dad has hinted to me that he'll pass to me his legacy 1990 Honda Accord.

Since I'm using component for the fronts, that would eliminate the use of front tweeters?? Would it not?

I usually listen to pop, rock and alternative. Occassional trance and techno.

 
You have a couple choices. You could run the front and rears off the head unit's amp, and have a small 2 channel or mono amp powering a 8" or 10" sub. You could also bypass the head units' amp and get a four channel amp for the front and rears...or, you could get a small 2 channel amp for the fronts, and run the rears right off the head unit.

It sounds like you aren't a big audiophile or anything, so you will prolly be fine running the fronts and rears off the internal amp, and just getting a small amp and sub for bass. Running your speakers off an external amp won't really make them sound "better", just louder.
 
The car they are going to be in is really important. Different cars all use different size speaker configurations, and without knowing where they are going it's really hard to buy. For instance, you might buy a set of 6 x 9's, and then find out the car you have has 5 x 7's or 6.5" models, and you would be out of luck unless you built custom speaker boxes.

Component speakers are usually in two parts...a set of tweeters and a set of drivers.
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
You have a couple choices. You could run the front and rears off the head unit's amp, and have a small 2 channel or mono amp powering a 8" or 10" sub. You could also bypass the head units' amp and get a four channel amp for the front and rears...or, you could get a small 2 channel amp for the fronts, and run the rears right off the head unit.

It sounds like you aren't a big audiophile or anything, so you will prolly be fine running the fronts and rears off the internal amp, and just getting a small amp and sub for bass. Running your speakers off an external amp won't really make them sound "better", just louder.

Alright, let's say I do this. Get the Pioneer head unit that you suggested, front component speakers, rear 2 way or 3 way speakers and a 10" sub. Can I just get a multichannel sub to power the front and sub? Or do I need a separate amp for the sub and fronts?

I'm afraid of killing the speakers like I did to my current ones. I think I abused the volume too much.
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
The car they are going to be in is really important. Different cars all use different size speaker configurations, and without knowing where they are going it's really hard to buy. For instance, you might buy a set of 6 x 9's, and then find out the car you have has 5 x 7's or 6.5" models, and you would be out of luck unless you built custom speaker boxes.

Component speakers are usually in two parts...a set of tweeters and a set of drivers.

I was told that. Guess I would really need to talk to my dad by the end of this year before I splurge some money on these. I think it's pretty cheap to build custom speaker boxes from where I came from. I'll check. 😀
 
Originally posted by: pillage2001

Alright, let's say I do this. Get the Pioneer head unit that you suggested, front component speakers, rear 2 way or 3 way speakers and a 10" sub. Can I just get a multichannel sub to power the front and sub? Or do I need a separate amp for the sub and fronts?

I'm afraid of killing the speakers like I did to my current ones. I think I abused the volume too much.

I would suggest, to start off, running your fronts and rears off the head unit, and getting a dedicated amp for the sub. I would really hold off on getting the speakers ntil you find out what vehicle they will be in. 🙂 The internal amp of that unit will give you plenty of volume, and be much better than any factory setup.

As for blowing speakers, just make sure you are operating them in the power range they are speced for. 🙂

 
pillage2001 -

When you have time, head over to Crutchfield, and go to their car stereo section. Follow the prompts for your year, make , and model, etc of the car your dad might give you. It should tell you what speakers you have from the factory, and what speakers will fit or not. Also, make sure you know the specifics of your dad's car...like whether or not it's a DX, LX, etc. and if it's a coupe or sedan.

Once you get that info, we can start trying to find you a decent setup for your budget.

🙂
 
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