I hate you diane feinstein, so much.

[Ns1]

Hello, LA-ASA Members and Friends. On Friday, August 7, the Los Angeles City Council will vote on a resolution supporting S-258, a US Senate bill that will enhance penalties under federal law for some patients who make or use edible preparations of cannabis. We need to tell our representatives on the Los Angeles City Council to vote no on Councilmember Janice Hahn?s resolution supporting S-258 before Friday?s meeting!

Can you take a minute to call you representative right now? We only have a short amount of time to make our voices heard.

You can locate your City Councilmember online by typing your address into the box labeled ?My Neighborhood? at http://www.lacity.org/lacity/Y.../CityCouncil/index.htm (scroll down to see it) or by calling the city?s information line at 311.

A short, simple, and polite message like this will do: ?Hello. I am a medical cannabis patient/advocate in your district calling to ask the Councilmember to vote no on item 12 , a resolution supporting US Senator Diane Feinstein?s S-258. This bill will increase penalties under federal law for legal patients who make or use edible preparations of cannabis. This is unacceptable, and the bill should be amended to protect legal patients before we support it.?

Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) introduced S-258 under the name ?Save Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009.? The enhanced sentences apply to anyone who sells a Schedule I or II drug to a person under 21 when it is combined with candy or packaged to look like candy. Senator Feinstein, a long-time opponent of her own state?s medical cannabis law, is not promoting S-258 as a medical cannabis bill ? but the text specifically mentions a popular medical cannabis edible that was part of a 2007 DEA raid and federal prosecution (Tainted?s ?Pot Tart?). LA Councilmember Hahn supports medical cannabis, but may not intend to jeopardize Angelinos who legally use edible preparations of cannabis. We need to stop this resolution and send it back further consideration.

Please make your call today and help make a difference!

The City Council will vote on Councilmember Hahn?s resolution on Friday, August 7, at their 10:00 AM meeting at Van Nuys City Hall. The address is 14410 Sylvan Street, Van Nuys, CA 91401. Arrive early to complete a public speaker?s card if you wish to address the City Council regarding Agenda Item 12.

This is fucking bullshit. They keep spouting their mouths about how smoking is soooooo bad for you and blah blah blah. So now they're trying to penalize people who make edibles, which deliver maximum effectiveness without the harshness or side effects of smoking? that's complete BULLSHIT

I know dozens of MMJ patients who ONLY eat edibles because
1. they don't smoke
2. they don't want to smoke
3. they NEED these edibles

Diane Feinstein, you are now on the level of Janet Nguyen.

 

[Red Irish]

They're not taxing it, so it has to be bad for you.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Hello, LA-ASA Members and Friends. On Friday, August 7, the Los Angeles City Council will vote on a resolution supporting S-258, a US Senate bill that will enhance penalties under federal law for some patients who make or use edible preparations of cannabis. We need to tell our representatives on the Los Angeles City Council to vote no on Councilmember Janice Hahn?s resolution supporting S-258 before Friday?s meeting!

Can you take a minute to call you representative right now? We only have a short amount of time to make our voices heard.

You can locate your City Councilmember online by typing your address into the box labeled ?My Neighborhood? at http://www.lacity.org/lacity/Y.../CityCouncil/index.htm (scroll down to see it) or by calling the city?s information line at 311.

A short, simple, and polite message like this will do: ?Hello. I am a medical cannabis patient/advocate in your district calling to ask the Councilmember to vote no on item 12 , a resolution supporting US Senator Diane Feinstein?s S-258. This bill will increase penalties under federal law for legal patients who make or use edible preparations of cannabis. This is unacceptable, and the bill should be amended to protect legal patients before we support it.?

Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) introduced S-258 under the name ?Save Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009.? The enhanced sentences apply to anyone who sells a Schedule I or II drug to a person under 21 when it is combined with candy or packaged to look like candy. Senator Feinstein, a long-time opponent of her own state?s medical cannabis law, is not promoting S-258 as a medical cannabis bill ? but the text specifically mentions a popular medical cannabis edible that was part of a 2007 DEA raid and federal prosecution (Tainted?s ?Pot Tart?). LA Councilmember Hahn supports medical cannabis, but may not intend to jeopardize Angelinos who legally use edible preparations of cannabis. We need to stop this resolution and send it back further consideration.

Please make your call today and help make a difference!

The City Council will vote on Councilmember Hahn?s resolution on Friday, August 7, at their 10:00 AM meeting at Van Nuys City Hall. The address is 14410 Sylvan Street, Van Nuys, CA 91401. Arrive early to complete a public speaker?s card if you wish to address the City Council regarding Agenda Item 12.

This is fucking bullshit. They keep spouting their mouths about how smoking is soooooo bad for you and blah blah blah. So now they're trying to penalize people who make edibles, which deliver maximum effectiveness without the harshness or side effects of smoking? that's complete BULLSHIT

I know dozens of MMJ patients who ONLY eat edibles because
1. they don't smoke
2. they don't want to smoke
3. they NEED these edibles

Diane Feinstein, you are now on the level of Janet Nguyen.

That shit head voted for the war in Iraq.

 

[LunarRay]

I rather expect that if Eli Lilly put it into a pill and sold it for $tons of money it would be fine just like all the rest of the crap they make and sell..

 

[sciwizam]

Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) introduced S-258 under the name ?Save Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009.?

Won't somebody please think of the children?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
That shit head voted for the war in Iraq.

So did Biden and Hillary.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: sciwizam

Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) introduced S-258 under the name ?Save Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009.?

Won't somebody please think of the children?

They should rename it the Save Kids from Dangerous Munchies act of 2009. Seriously. WTF does this have to do with a) kids or b) anything dangerous?

or :roll: ... I'm not sure these days...

 

[Drift3r]

Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) introduced S-258 under the name ?Save Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009.? The enhanced sentences apply to anyone who sells a Schedule I or II drug to a person under 21 when it is combined with candy or packaged to look like candy.

How many 21 year old and under patients are eligible and have a great need for medical marijuana??

LoL - If you've ever seen the Medical marijuana store fronts in San Francisco and Oakland you'll notice the large group of healthy looking young adults (No doubt with phony prescriptions in hand from doctors who can be bribed to give them out) mixed in with the few truly legitimate terminally sick patients. The system is being abused big time in regards to the handing out of "medical marijuana".

 

[Patranus]

I know someone who has a medical marijuana card for "PMS" and has (in the past) literally gone into a medical marijuana dispensary every other day for a month while she was waiting for the results of the bar exam (and yes, she passed).

I find it interesting that I can't buy large quantities Nyquil (the good stuff) but it is very easy to procure large quantities of marijuana legally.

Look, I couldn't care less what adults do in their own homes on their own time.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Amend the legislation to read "not to be sold to someone under 21 unless currently being treated for cancer or other illness where a physician deems this appropriate therapy"

Problem solved.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Amend the legislation to read "not to be sold to someone under 21 unless currently being treated for cancer or other illness where a physician deems this appropriate therapy"

Problem solved.

The problem is that any mainstream doctor will tell you that there are alternatives for medial marijuana and there is really no medical benefit over other drugs.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Amend the legislation to read "not to be sold to someone under 21 unless currently being treated for cancer or other illness where a physician deems this appropriate therapy"

Problem solved.

The problem is that any mainstream doctor will tell you that there are alternatives for medial marijuana and there is really no medical benefit over other drugs.

That depends on the situation. Ondesteron is probably the best oral med but it's efficacy isn't superior to plain old pot. Also a months worth of it is several thousand dollars, and that's the generic.

I'm for what works, and while I wouldn't encourage my kids to smoke, I think it being a schedule I narcotic doesn't make much sense. Seems to me the punishment ought to fit the crime and if I knew of someone who smoked I wouldn't think ill of them unless they let it rule their lives. For chemo treatment? I haven't any problem at all.

 

[JD50]

Damn religious right, trying to push their morals on the rest of us!

 

[ManyBeers]

How do people who are pro-choice (Sen. Diane Feinstein being one) reconcile the fact that their anti-drug position is a complete contradiction of their pro-choice stance?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
How do people who are pro-choice (Sen. Diane Feinstein being one) reconcile the fact that their anti-drug position is a complete contradiction of their pro-choice stance?

so you`ve had one too many beers???

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: JD50
Damn religious right, trying to push their morals on the rest of us!

That is l like saying the left want to push their morals on the rest of us regarding health care.

Many "on the right" (probably the majority) would follow the traditional 'less government' school of thought and say whatever an adult does on their own time in their own home is their own business.

 

[Taejin]

That BITCH trying to keep me from my drugs! bawwww

 

[DougoMan]

I agree this is bullshit - personally I think edibles are the most "legit" form of marajuana for anyone who claims to be using it for medical purposes.

Edibles kick in slowly and last a long time. It is more like taking a pill. Most people don't even like them for this reason. They want to get the instant high from smoking which is done mostly for recreational purposes.

It's like the difference between taking oxycontin pills and shooting up heroin. Chances are if you are actually taking oxycontin for pain you will want the slow release of a pill. If you are trying to get off on getting high you want the instant high and snort the pills or shoot up heroin.

Note: I'm not saying heroin/oxycontin (they are the same) and marajuana are anything alike. Just the instantaneous delivery method that recreational users seek.

If they wanted to discourage using this for recreational use they would outlow smoking. It would make much more sense.


PS: California medical marajuana is pretty much a scam. Anyone can get a card. A lot of my friends do. I used to.

I do think it is a good compromise between totally legal pot and being illegal. At least this way people that do use it are knowledgable about the effects of the drug. Also it costs about $200 and $100 a year thereafter for doctor appts to keep the card current so it kind of weeds out the unemplyed homeless and people you don't really want getting marajuana. It's mostly students/professionals that are using it (and a few people that are actually sick).

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
How do people who are pro-choice (Sen. Diane Feinstein being one) reconcile the fact that their anti-drug position is a complete contradiction of their pro-choice stance?

so you`ve had one too many beers???

No, dummy, he's making perfect sense. Feinstein is pro-choice on abortion because "she doesn't want the gov't telling women what to do with their own bodies", but when it comes to pot, all of the sudden she's Sen. SuperNanny. That's intellectually inconsistent and complete hypocricy.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
That shit head voted for the war in Iraq.

So did Biden and Hillary.

Oh well shit, then I take back everything I said.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Amend the legislation to read "not to be sold to someone under 21 unless currently being treated for cancer or other illness where a physician deems this appropriate therapy"

Problem solved.

The problem is that any mainstream doctor will tell you that there are alternatives for medial marijuana and there is really no medical benefit over other drugs.

That depends on the situation. Ondesteron is probably the best oral med but it's efficacy isn't superior to plain old pot. Also a months worth of it is several thousand dollars, and that's the generic.

I'm for what works, and while I wouldn't encourage my kids to smoke, I think it being a schedule I narcotic doesn't make much sense. Seems to me the punishment ought to fit the crime and if I knew of someone who smoked I wouldn't think ill of them unless they let it rule their lives. For chemo treatment? I haven't any problem at all.

Zofran is one of the miracle drugs out there. I've had Rxs for it for stomach/nausea problems.

Multiple uses, no side effects. Just expensive Comes down to laying there in pain and wondering if it's worth $35 to make it stop (cost of 1 pill).

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
That shit head voted for the war in Iraq.

So did Biden and Hillary.

Oh well shit, then I take back everything I said.

:laugh:

Well, I guess my point wasn't meant for this topic anyway.

As for the OP, it's just no surprise that the disease of social conservatism hasn't just infected the GOP. But their constituents have allowed the infection to be ignored, and that just allows the Democrats to be sick, too.

 

[Pneumothorax]

Just legalize the stuff already! I'm tired of patients coming in and trying to get a pot card for a headache.

 

[Pulsar]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: JD50
Damn religious right, trying to push their morals on the rest of us!

That is l like saying the left want to push their morals on the rest of us regarding health care.

Many "on the right" (probably the majority) would follow the traditional 'less government' school of thought and say whatever an adult does on their own time in their own home is their own business.

Um... no.

The left want to push their fiscal insanity and socialized agenda on the rest of us.

Which is no better than the right and their busy-bodies trying to legislate morality all over the place. Don't give oral sex. Don't have sex with your shades open. Don't have sex with your neighbor's horse.

It's f'n ridiculous.

 

[kage69]

Feinstein is pro-choice on abortion because "she doesn't want the gov't telling women what to do with their own bodies", but when it comes to pot, all of the sudden she's Sen. SuperNanny. That's intellectually inconsistent and complete hypocricy.

:thumbsup: Looks like Feinstein is out to prove that unabashed hypocrisy isn't solely a (R) problem!

My guess is she'll be reaping the whirlwind on this soon enough - isn't CA largely very much pro-medical marijuana? So she's unrealistically lumping weed edibles (non toxic, non addictive), also a possible tax boon for the cash strapped state, into the same category as The Hard Sh!t in some cliched effort to "save the children"?

I hope the voters remember this display of idiocy on her part, I'm sure those who ingest the edibles for relief from chronic pain and illness won't forget.

Bullshit indeed!