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Acanthus

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Why would moving an AVI file from CDROM to HD utilize 80% of the cpu :(

The task manager cant reveal what is actually using the CPU, it says 99 for system idle time, but the PC runs like ass and the performance tab in the task manager says 85% to 95% cpu usage.

Its on the rig in sig, on windows 2000 professional, with HT disabled. The only thing i can think of is a POS chipset... I was simply copying the file, no caching or encoding/decoding of any kind.

Is there any way i can stop this madness? Would moving the drive from EIDE to SATA help? (i bought a dongle but need to reformat to use it).
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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I know what you mean. I have a dual Xeon server, and my server pauses when I put in a new CD as the disc is being initialized. I've seen it on every computer I've ever owned or worked on...
Tas.
 

bjc112

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: brandon
Enable DMA.

When I move large files from my CD-ROM, I average around, oh say, about 5-10%

DMA is enabled.


That's definitely something else then.. Chipset drivers of some kind?

I can rip a DVD, or burn a DVD, or anything using the optical drive ( aside from spinup ) and use less than <5%
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: bjc112
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: brandon
Enable DMA.

When I move large files from my CD-ROM, I average around, oh say, about 5-10%

DMA is enabled.


That's definitely something else then.. Chipset drivers of some kind?

I can rip a DVD, or burn a DVD, or anything using the optical drive ( aside from spinup ) and use less than <5%

OS?

I suspect its Windows 2000, its like a full system halt every time the cdrom spins up with a new CD or gets heavy use, and it happens across multiple platforms.
 

Jeff7

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I suspect its Windows 2000, its like a full system halt every time the cdrom spins up with a new CD or gets heavy use, and it happens across multiple platforms.

I get that on my systems too. Hate that - new disc in the drive, and the entire system (except the cursor) virtually locks up until Windows can eagerly see what's on the disc.

As for the other issue - are the CD drive and hard drive on separate IDE chains?

Either that, or maybe try new chipset drivers, as bjc112 suggested.
 

gsellis

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This sounds like you have "allow compression" on. If you have "show compressed files in a different color" set in the tools, folder options of Explorer, is the new file "blue"? ;)
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: gsellis
This sounds like you have "allow compression" on. If you have "show compressed files in a different color" set in the tools, folder options of Explorer, is the new file "blue"? ;)

No.

I have discovered the problem, it was disabling DMA on restart due to compatibility issues. I checked it yesterday and it was on, but after a restart today its off again. I have had some problems with windows keeping the CDROM properly detected, itll just vanish into thin air sometimes until i use the "check for new hardware" button in the device manager.
 

piasabird

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I wonder if your system is using a virus screening program that slows it down.

Win2k has always seemed kind of a slow operating system to me, like it is a big resource hog.
 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: gsellis
This sounds like you have "allow compression" on. If you have "show compressed files in a different color" set in the tools, folder options of Explorer, is the new file "blue"? ;)

No.

I have discovered the problem, it was disabling DMA on restart due to compatibility issues. I checked it yesterday and it was on, but after a restart today its off again. I have had some problems with windows keeping the CDROM properly detected, itll just vanish into thin air sometimes until i use the "check for new hardware" button in the device manager.
Glad you found the intermediate cause. When things start disappearing in PnP, step 2 time... check cables for spark gaps... ;)

Edit - Oh, and let the hardware do the PnP and not the OS (BIOS setting).

 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: gsellis
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: gsellis
This sounds like you have "allow compression" on. If you have "show compressed files in a different color" set in the tools, folder options of Explorer, is the new file "blue"? ;)

No.

I have discovered the problem, it was disabling DMA on restart due to compatibility issues. I checked it yesterday and it was on, but after a restart today its off again. I have had some problems with windows keeping the CDROM properly detected, itll just vanish into thin air sometimes until i use the "check for new hardware" button in the device manager.
Glad you found the intermediate cause. When things start disappearing in PnP, step 2 time... check cables for spark gaps... ;)

Edit - Oh, and let the hardware do the PnP and not the OS (BIOS setting).

I think its a mobo issue, i have tested the drive in other systems and it doesnt seem to have the issue. I changed to a new EIDE cable just to be safe, problem persists.

I think ill move the IDE drive to SATA this weekend and see if its a master/slave issue, its currently daisy chained with the HD, but ive triple checked the jumpers and they are correctly set.
 

bluemax

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Things like this make me almost wish SCSI had taken over the world. ;)

Let's hope SATA does the job it's supposed to! (It's still got some ways to go... no more driver loading, universal standards, etc.)