I hate when ATI say 800 shaders...

[Pelu]

A BUNCH!!!!!! but i swear they are a BUNCH!!!! of horrible LIES!!!!!

how can it have 800 shaders and a simple 216 nvidia pwns the crap out of it....

sounds like ATI exagerate their shader number... i bet it only have around 160 or something like that....

I am really pissed with ATI... first the horrible lie.. but wont matter if... they support stuff like physx...

that drives me crazy.... I cant put my 4870x2 for video and the 8800gtx for physx... because it wont give me video in any card...

I cant get a physx ageia card because they are discontinued...

I cant get a 295 nvidia because it cost too much.... (shoplifting is troublesome)

The 8800 GTX alone with physx at the same time suck ass... in performance

AND MOST IMPORTANT... Physx doesnt work in ATI... CRAP!!!! and that guy in NGOHQ claim is easy to port it to ati...

what really drives me mad is that ATI no physx... only havok.. but Nvidia got the two... and also cost less.... too bad I cant change the whole computer at all and turn green.. like throwing away the card,, the mobo.. and such....



This thread's going nowhere, and it doesn't look like the OP is interested in discussing or replying to any of the technical points that several of the posters have brought up, or the posts offering legitimate advice.

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[BenSkywalker]

ATi's shader hardware works a lot differently then nVidia's. They aren't being dishonest when they say they have 800 shader cores, they are just simpler cores that can't do what a single nV shader core can. End effect you should always pay attention to performance, not raw specs.

 

[HurleyBird]

Don't feed the troll. Just let this thread die.

 

[habbakuk87]

LOL

 

[Cheex]

The technical information from vendors can be misleading at times but what is important is how well it performs and at what price. To the average 'non-techie' person out there...he isn't concerned in the least bit about 800 shaders vs. 216.......no.....he just wants to know that he can run Crysis decently and show it off to his friends!!

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Pelu
what really drives me mad is that ATI no physx... only havok.. but Nvidia got the two... and also cost less.... too bad I cant change the whole computer at all and turn green.. like throwing away the card,, the mobo.. and such....

Um... why not? You do realize there's a FS/FT forum on these boards right? I'm sure someone would happily buy your 4850/70/90 off you for a reasonable price, then you can go get your NVIDIA card if you want PhysX so much.

Or you can run XP or Win7, buy a nice little 9600GSO or better card, and run PhysX on that while your ATI card does the real and more important work of putting the graphics on the screen.

:roll:

 

[OCGuy]

Do you publish a periodical that we can subscribe to?

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Do you publish a periodical that we can subscribe to?

This guy is a genius, I want to see more of what he has to say!

 

[crazylegs]

Is the OP one of those ppl that thinks a tonne of lead weighs more than a tonne of feathers?

Also i hate my friend he is 170 cm's tall and i'm only 5'10" ... i mean 170 is 33.3 times larger than 5.10

 

[AstroManLuca]

Oh good, an nVidia fanboy.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Pelu
what really drives me mad is that ATI no physx... only havok.. but Nvidia got the two... and also cost less.... too bad I cant change the whole computer at all and turn green.. like throwing away the card,, the mobo.. and such....

h.

Or you can run XP or Win7, buy a nice little 9600GSO or better card, and run PhysX on that while your ATI card does the real and more important work of putting the graphics on the screen.

:roll:

....or he could just stay with his original idea and throw away everything: mobo, card, and "such". It's better for all of us.

 

[AVP]

I find honest trolling so much more sincere and fun than the peckish behavior that we occasionally encounter on this forum.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Pelu, the more of your posts I read the more I think you might be better off gaming on an Xbox 360 or PS3.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Pelu
what really drives me mad is that ATI no physx... only havok.. but Nvidia got the two... and also cost less.... too bad I cant change the whole computer at all and turn green.. like throwing away the card,, the mobo.. and such....

h.

Or you can run XP or Win7, buy a nice little 9600GSO or better card, and run PhysX on that while your ATI card does the real and more important work of putting the graphics on the screen.

:roll:

....or he could just stay with his original idea and throw away everything: mobo, card, and "such". It's better for all of us.

Perhaps "and such" will include himself

 

[habbakuk87]

Originally posted by: crazylegs
Is the OP one of those ppl that thinks a tonne of lead weighs more than a tonne of feathers?

Also i hate my friend he is 170 cm's tall and i'm only 5'10" ... i mean 170 is 33.3 times larger than 5.10

offtopic,But it's just hilarious, once one of my very insistent cousins almost convinced me of just what you said .

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Pelu, the more of your posts I read the more I think you might be better off riding on a bus with seatbelts.

Fixed

 

[Pelu]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Pelu, the more of your posts I read the more I think you might be better off gaming on an Xbox 360 or PS3.

hey.... screw ps3... by the way, what u mean by uncore in the PhII specs...

 

[Beanie46]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Pelu, the more of your posts I read the more I think you might be better off riding on a bus with seatbelts.

Fixed

Now THAT was good! Thanks for the laugh!

 

[IlllI]

this thread is going places

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Pelu

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Pelu, the more of your posts I read the more I think you might be better off gaming on an Xbox 360 or PS3.

hey.... screw ps3... by the way, what u mean by uncore in the PhII specs...

You've been poking around the CPU forum long enough to come across that discussion. Of course memory loss might explain a hell of a lot.

 

[MegaWorks]

Guys Pelu is a kid, give the boy a break.

Pelu the reason why you can't run PhysX and an ATI card is because you probably have Windows Vista installed, what you need to do is to reinstall Windows XP or Windows 7 in order for it to work. That's not really ATI or nVidia's fault it's big M$.

I don't remember who explain it this way but nVidia shaders use rats and ATI shaders use mice. Obviously rats are bigger and though can do more work, so 216 rats are almost equivalent to 800 mice in performance.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
I don't remember who explain it this way but nVidia shaders use rats and ATI shaders use mice. Obviously rats are bigger and though can do more work, so 216 rats are almost equivalent to 800 mice in performance.

Meanwhile nVidia claims to have 448-bit memory! What is with that? They're probably totally lying... ATI uses 256-bit memory. I just can't believe how much nVidia is stretching the truth with their advertising 448-bit memory. That doesn't even make sense.

:roll:

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
I don't remember who explain it this way but nVidia shaders use rats and ATI shaders use mice. Obviously rats are bigger and though can do more work, so 216 rats are almost equivalent to 800 mice in performance.

Meanwhile nVidia claims to have 448-bit memory! What is with that? They're probably totally lying... ATI uses 256-bit memory. I just can't believe how much nVidia is stretching the truth with their advertising 448-bit memory. That doesn't even make sense.

:roll:

If you're not joking or being sarcastic, The GTX260, GTX275 and GTX295 all have a 448 bit memory "interface".

If you are joking or being sarcastic, why?

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
I don't remember who explain it this way but nVidia shaders use rats and ATI shaders use mice. Obviously rats are bigger and though can do more work, so 216 rats are almost equivalent to 800 mice in performance.

Meanwhile nVidia claims to have 448-bit memory! What is with that? They're probably totally lying... ATI uses 256-bit memory. I just can't believe how much nVidia is stretching the truth with their advertising 448-bit memory. That doesn't even make sense.

:roll:

What's the big deal it they use 448-bit memory? In order for ATI to match nVidia's GDDR3 memory bandwidth design they have to throw in GDDR5 memory.

 

[Kraeoss]

and so it begins...