I hate Tax return Time

Krueger81

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Hello,

Iam now just filing my tax return and found out that the Federal Government can kiss my white ass.

I work part time for 6.75 an hour and they withheld around 700 bucks and well Iam only getting 260 bucks back. I am so pissed off right now. Why do I not get back more?

Krueger81
 

Sluggo

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Would you prefer to owe? By my best early estimates, I will be shelling out about $5300 to Fed and State April 15
 

Jumpem

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What's a rough estimate of what you made last year? Paying $440 in taxes is not really all that much unless you earned less than $2K-$3K.
 

Krueger81

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income before taxes was 7310 ...they have allready withheld taxes and Iam relly pissed off. last year I got almost all of it back this year I get like 50%

Krueger81
 

Aquaman

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Dec 17, 1999
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He He He......... I love tax season :D That's what I do for a living (accountant).

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Jumpem

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Sep 21, 2000
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Ok, you made $7310 and are paying $440 in taxes. You are paying roughly 6% in taxes, which is not bad at all.
 
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Why bitch about taxes. I've learned to live with it, and any money I get back is good. Hey, if you wanna file completely exempt where you work, there will be no federal taxes withheld. Then you can run from 'em when they come after you. But hey, they wouldn't be taking your money ;).
 

Krueger81

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Hello,

I was hoping for more so I could pay off my CC's but I guess that's not going to happen now. Anyway where would I go to get my State Taxes back? or do I not get those back?

Krueger81

 

RossMAN

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Feb 24, 2000
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Aquaman or any other accountants, I've got a simple question which hopefully one of you can provide an accurate answer for.

I worked as an independent contractor/self-employed part time for 2000. I was paid 100% hourly wages with no federal or state taxes withheld, no social security, no deductions at all. If I earned $2,000 that month then that's how much my check was for.

How much (%) do you estimate I will have to pay on April 15th for the 2000 earnings I had? For some reason I recall a figure of around 28%-38% from my accountant and she said that included Federal, Oregon state taxes, social security and some other minor stuff. Ugh I hate taxes!

Oh and also I spent $3,000 on business related expenses ($2,000 PC and monitor which I use for the part time job, and $1,000 other stuff). Can I most likely write this off? I heard that there's a high minimum of like $7,000 before I can write anything off?

I also have a full time job as well.
 

Aquaman

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Sorry RossMAN........ I work in Canada so I have no idea what the US laws regarding such things are.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

RossMAN

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Aquaman - Thanks anyhow, hopefully another tax guru here can answer my two questions.
 
Oct 9, 1999
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rossman you can write that off.. I did that.
However I dont remember the % of money that disappears..I think your right its about 30-35% of the income.
Sometimes there is a differnce between standard deduction and item wise deduction.. check and see which is better for you..

I still havent got my W2.. hopefully my company will give it to me soon..
I think I should get back a lot this year... something in the 3 grand range. Last year I got back 25 from state and 600 from fedral.
 

RossMAN

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the good guy who is my new best buddy - So dinner is on you? :)

Thanks for the info, I think I'm gonna owe Uncle Sam close to $4,000 ouch! and I wonder where did all that money go? Must stop buying computers, laptops, toys and DVD movies. Bad Bad Ross!



<< I think I should get back a lot this year... something in the 3 grand range. >>


Wow, I'd love that. Invest/spend it wisely.
 

Sundog

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Phillip,
I understand being a student and wanting to get money back. Wait a couple more years my friend.

Wait until you have 28% of your gross taken out every paycheck, and thats just fed. Then take out 7.5% for social security and another 7.5% for state.

You're looking at 43%--ffffffttttttttt*GONE out of every check. It pretty much bites.
 

Michael

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Rossman - The rate you'll pay depends on your top marginal rate from all your other income. Plus you will have to pay state tax, FICA, medicare, and the employer portion of FICA and medicare. Basically double the percentage you pay in social security and that'll give you the rate.

If you make decent money, the federal rate is 28%-31% Figure 15% for social security and medicare and whatever your state rate is. If you have already maxed out your social security payment, you'll pay less. I think the max out point is around $72K in salary.

Michael
 

Double Trouble

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Yup, good info from Michael...

Rossman, the actual rate you'll be paying depends on your other income level etc. Assuming you had normal taxes withheld from your regular paychecks, you should be pretty much ok there.

Since you haven't payed any taxes on your self employment income, make sure you count on paying regular fed and state income tax, social security and FICA (multiply roughly by two because you have to pay your part and the 'employer' portion), and you'll have to probably pay an underpayment penalty --> The IRS dings you for not paying estimated taxes on that self employement income during the year, unless the amount is small enough.

As for writing off, yes, you can write off most of your business expenses (schedule C), but you have to be VERY specific in what items you are writing off, what percentage of the use of the item is directly business related etc etc. The percentage you can write off as an expense depends on the item and the rate at which you're allowed to amortize it.

Be prepared to document your use of those items (monitors etc) for business use, because it's one of the things the IRS tends to flag for review (having a high percentage of business expenses in relation to business income). In effect, what you're telling the IRS is that you spent more on equipment for the business than what you made during the year........

Of course, without reviewing your entire tax situation, I can't give you more specifics than that :)
 

iamwiz82

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Krueger, it is because you are over the $4400(correct me if i'm wrong) magic tax line. You get all taxes back under $4400 income, over it, and you pay. the difference.
 

RossMAN

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Michael - Thanks for your help, that makes a lot of sense.

tagej - Wow tons of useful info, thanks. I received a voice mail from my tax lady this morning I'm going to owe (roughly) $7,980.00 in total taxes for 2000, LOL I nearly ^&amp;^%! my pants. Funny how it's going to take a nearly $8,000 tax bill for me to start actually budgeting and spending wisely. Fortunately I can wait until April 15th to mail the tax returns, then whatever amount I can't pay the IRS sends me an invoice 6 weeks later at which time is around May 31st. So if I really discipline myself I can save from Feb 1 - June 1, but then again my poison is these damned Hot Deals forums ... I won't know the final figures on how much I owe until I receive all my income and interest earning statements but I know to be better prepared for this next year. What do you do for a living? Whatever it is I'll bet you're pretty good at it.
 

howste

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I have a side business where I make a little extra spending money building/upgrading computers. Last year, because I have a &quot;home office,&quot; I was able to claim a percentage of my house &amp; expenses, which actually made my income (on paper) less than zero. You can claim a percentage of all the utilities, etc. equivalent to the percent of the square footage you use for your business.
 

RossMAN

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You can claim a percentage of all the utilities, etc. equivalent to the percent of the square footage you use for your business.

LOL, thanks that's good to know. Reason I'm laughing is because the area consisting of my self-employed/contract job is like 7x7. Basically the area of my desk and chair that's about it.
 

Total Refected Power

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You'd puke if you knew what we have to pay. I get chest pains just thinking about it.

I should get at least a flight on Air Force One for the $$$$$$$.