I hate SUV drivers...

[Ih8canada]

Ornery!!! that site is soo damn true freaking tahoe's block my view all the damned time I wanna bust a bat and go to town on their headlights!!! urgh

sorry

 

[Ornery]

Even econobox drivers could learn a little driving etiquette here and there. For instance, when you're first in line to turn left, how far do you pull up to the white line? Or do you actually pull over that line? If you do, why? Makes it that much harder for people turning left from your right to get around. It's particularly a pain in the ass for a tractor trailer to get around. Why not hang back a bit? Will you get where you're going that much faster by hogging part of the intersection?

And how many of you block drives when you're stopped in traffic? It's not a life endangering issue, but it certainly is considerate to allow people to enter and exit a driveway. Econobox drivers can be just as inconsiderate, that's for sure!

 

[Tiger]

<< If you drive a SUV and like to tailgate little Corollas at night, you better hope it's not me.
I swear the next fvcker who shines the 10 billion watt halogen lamp into my back window I will stop the car
and beat you within an each of your life. >>



BWHAHAHAHA!

You've got more issues than just the size of your..............uhmm.............vehicle.
I don't sweat Corolla/Neon/Fiesta/Festiva/Too damn small/ drivers.
If they're big enough to do any physical damage they can't get out of the damn car fast enough.
Does spam in a can resonate?

 

[etech]

Let's look at the real problem, teenage drivers.


highwaysafety.org/
Beginning drivers' crashes differ
Teen drivers have the highest crash risk of any age group. Per mile traveled, they have the highest involvement rates in all types of crashes, from those involving only property damage to those that are fatal. The problem is worst among 16 year-olds, who have the most limited driving experience and an immaturity that often results in risk-taking behind the wheel. The characteristics of 16 year-olds' fatal crashes highlight these problems.

Percentage of Fatal Crashes by Characteristic, 1998
Driver Age: 16 17-19 20-49
Driver error 80 75 62
Speeding 36 31 22
3+ occupants 33 26 19
Single vehicle 41 37 30
Drivers killed with 0.01+ BAC 8 25 47

Yes, I drive an SUV and I am tired of all of the SUV bashing.

 

[yourharddrive]

haha....ill run you over with my SUV

 

[TuffGuy]

<< Driver Age: 16 17-19 20-49
Driver error 80 75 62
Speeding 36 31 22
Drivers killed with 0.01+ BAC 8 25 47 >>


let's analyze that for a moment. the older you get, the less accidents you have. BUT, as you get older, the MORE LIKELY you are to kill someone.

i am also going to make an assumption. the older you get, the bigger/heavier the car you drive is right? also, who drives SUVs? teenagers or the 20+ crowd?

 

[FelixDeCat]

>Let's look at the real problem, teenage drivers.

110 % agreed. Especially if we are driving daddys suv and on the phone while trying to impress my passanger all at the age of 15. Zig zagging between lanes, taking up two lanes, turning all of a sudden in front of another car because im about to miss my exit, etc, etc, etc. They do these in ricers too.

 

[Dually]

I own a Honda Civic Sedan 97 year but I drive my friends Ford Explorer 2002 when my group of friend go out as he doesn't like to drive. I live hear in Michigan on 94, freeway. I drive like a bat out of hell which ever car I use. The speedlimit hear is 70mph but I do 80 to 90mph. If you don't like it and/or are driving 70 to 80 in the fast lane too bad.

 

[vi edit]

<< let's analyze that for a moment. the older you get, the less accidents you have. BUT, as you get older, the MORE LIKELY you are to kill someone. >>



Ok, maybe my brain hasn't woken up yet, but where did you get that assumption at from those numbers?

 

[vi edit]

<< I own a Honda Civic Sedan 97 year but I drive my friends Ford Explorer 2002 when my group of friend go out as he doesn't like to drive. I live hear in Michigan on 94, freeway. I drive like a bat out of hell which ever car I use. The speedlimit hear is 70mph but I do 80 to 90mph. If you don't like it and/or are driving 70 to 80 in the fast lane too bad. >>



You do realize that it's tools like you that cause insurance rates to be sky high for males, ages 16-25, don't you?

 

[veryape]

..who think they're driving a car.

Recap:

Driver #1 - Fool in a Pickup Truck is tailgating me (~75mph). Traffic slows, I slow down, he brakes late and skids to a stop. I swear that I saw my life flashin' before my eyes.

Driver #2 - Woman in an Cadillac. Two lane O-turn on-ramp to merge onto another fwy. I'm in the left lane, she's in the right one. I let off the gas and downshift to slow down. Apparently she was waiting for my taillights to know when to start braking. She misjudges the turn and swerves into my lane nearly clipping my tail. Good thing that I was in a lower gear and had time to get out of the way.

:| :disgust: :|

Now how would that be any different than your story other than the fact that they are driving different vehicles? It's not, and to make brazen observations about a whole group of people driving a particular vehicle is ridiculous. You're just making a gigantic assumption on a whole group of people, by a relatively small amount of situations you've witnessed. You shouldn't label people just because of what they drive, because from what i've seen, people drive all types of vehicles like morons, but people like to pick on SUVs for some unknown reason. Who knows, maybe they want one but can't afford to keep it gassed up or something. In any case, you really can't justify lumping all SUV driving people in the same catagory any more than you can lump all blacks or chinese people in the same catagory saying they all eat dogs or chicken wings, even though that's true. They do, i've seen 'em!

 

[TuffGuy]

<<

<< let's analyze that for a moment. the older you get, the less accidents you have. BUT, as you get older, the MORE LIKELY you are to kill someone. >>



Ok, maybe my brain hasn't woken up yet, but where did you get that assumption at from those numbers? >>


Driver Age: 16 17-19 20-49
Driver error 80 75 62
Speeding 36 31 22
Drivers killed with 0.01+ BAC 8 25 47

 

[Dually]

<<

<< I own a Honda Civic Sedan 97 year but I drive my friends Ford Explorer 2002 when my group of friend go out as he doesn't like to drive. I live hear in Michigan on 94, freeway. I drive like a bat out of hell which ever car I use. The speedlimit hear is 70mph but I do 80 to 90mph. If you don't like it and/or are driving 70 to 80 in the fast lane too bad. >>



You do realize that it's tools like you that cause insurance rates to be sky high for males, ages 16-25, don't you? >>



um no. I drive responsibly. The average speed on 94 is 82mph. People think I am tailgating when I am not because they misjudge the distance. I keep at least one car length or two away from the person in front of me. I pay a fortune in car insurance. In Michigan its illegal to charge boys and girls different rates.

 

[Tiger]

vi edit has a point.

Percentage of fatal accidents by characteristic.

16 years old.

80%- driver error
36%- speeding
33%- 3+ occupants
41%- single vehicle

The numbers are all lower for the 20-49 group except for the .10 BAC catagory, which makes sense.

 

[TuffGuy]

<< Now how would that be any different than your story other than the fact that they are driving different vehicles? It's not, and to make brazen observations about a whole group of people driving a particular vehicle is ridiculous. You're just making a gigantic assumption on a whole group of people, by a relatively small amount of situations you've witnessed. You shouldn't label people just because of what they drive, because from what i've seen, people drive all types of vehicles like morons, but people like to pick on SUVs for some unknown reason. Who knows, maybe they want one but can't afford to keep it gassed up or something. In any case, you really can't justify lumping all SUV driving people in the same catagory any more than you can lump all blacks or chinese people in the same catagory saying they all eat dogs or chicken wings, even though that's true. They do, i've seen 'em! >>


because the majority of vehicles that almost hit me are SUVs. there's a reason why i have a grudge against them. i drive a small car (eclipse), they don't look over their shoulder, they can't see me in their mirror, and they change lanes without checking or signaling. and like i said before, most of them do not really know how an SUV should be driven.

 

[Dually]

<< vi edit has a point.

Percentage of fatal accidents by characteristic.

16 years old.

80%- driver error
36%- speeding
33%- 3+ occupants
41%- single vehicle

The numbers are all lower for the 20-49 group except for the .10 BAC catagory, which makes sense. >>



I believe those statistics, I am 22 .

 

[vi edit]

Lets look at this for a second -

33% of fatal accidents are caused by kids who don't even LEGALLY HAVE ACCESS to alcohol, while 47% of fatal accidents are caused by ADULTS who DO HAVE LEGAL ACCESS to alcohol.

Your SUV bias has clouded your brain. 33% of those accidents shouldn't have even happened. This doesn't have jack squat to do with SUV's. It has EVERYTHING to do with the reason why alcohol is illegal to people under the age of 21.

A couple other things - the 20 year old age group is lumped in with the 21+. I would be curious to see what percentage of the 20-49 group fatalies are caused by the 20 year olds. I would guess that it would be at least one or two percentage points at the minimum.

So lets just say that 35% of all fatalites caused by kids under the age of 21 are caused by alcohol. We are covering FIVE YEARS of driving age. The 21-49 group covers 39 years of drivers. That is INCREDIBLY more significant of sample group. I would at least find it somewhat conceiveable that a group that has nearly 8 TIMES the number of people in the sample, plus LEGAL ACCESS to alcohol has a higher chance of fatalities due to alcohol.

 

[Dually]

<< Lets look at this for a second -

33% of fatal accidents are caused by kids who don't even LEGALLY HAVE ACCESS to alcohol, while 47% of fatal accidents are caused by ADULTS who DO HAVE LEGAL ACCESS to alcohol.

Your SUV bias has clouded your brain. 33% of those accidents shouldn't have even happened. This doesn't have jack squat to do with SUV's. It has EVERYTHING to do with the reason why alcohol is illegal to people under the age of 21.

A couple other things - the 20 year old age group is lumped in with the 21+. I would be curious to see what percentage of the 20-49 group fatalies are caused by the 20 year olds. I would guess that it would be at least one or two percentage points at the minimum.

So lets just say that 35% of all fatalites caused by kids under the age of 21 are caused by alcohol. We are covering FIVE YEARS of driving age. The 21-49 group covers 39 years of drivers. That is INCREDIBLY more significant of sample group. I would at least find it somewhat conceiveable that a group that has nearly 8 TIMES the number of people in the sample, plus LEGAL ACCESS to alcohol has a higher chance of fatalities due to alcohol. >>



I don't drink, I hate to rain on your party. I only do it when others drive, I have maybe one drink once every two months and never when I drive.

 

[vi edit]

<< I don't drink, I hate to rain on your party. I only do it when others drive, I have maybe one drink once every two months and never when I drive. >>



Dually, that post about drinking wasn't directed at you. It was pointed at Tuffguy and his rather irrational opinion that it's simply SUV's that are the reason that the number of drunken fatalities in the 20-49 age group are higher than the 16-19 age group.

 

[TuffGuy]

<< Lets look at this for a second -

33% of fatal accidents are caused by kids who don't even LEGALLY HAVE ACCESS to alcohol, while 47% of fatal accidents are caused by ADULTS who DO HAVE LEGAL ACCESS to alcohol.

Your SUV bias has clouded your brain. 33% of those accidents shouldn't have even happened. This doesn't have jack squat to do with SUV's. It has EVERYTHING to do with the reason why alcohol is illegal to people under the age of 21.

A couple other things - the 20 year old age group is lumped in with the 21+. I would be curious to see what percentage of the 20-49 group fatalies are caused by the 20 year olds. I would guess that it would be at least one or two percentage points at the minimum.

So lets just say that 35% of all fatalites caused by kids under the age of 21 are caused by alcohol. We are covering FIVE YEARS of driving age. The 21-49 group covers 39 years of drivers. That is INCREDIBLY more significant of sample group. I would at least find it somewhat conceiveable that a group that has nearly 8 TIMES the number of people in the sample, plus LEGAL ACCESS to alcohol has a higher chance of fatalities due to alcohol. >>


the 33% didn't register. i saw the 8%, than the 25%, and then the 47%. sorry. i would like to see the breakdown between car and SUVs/trucks though.

 

[TuffGuy]

<< It was pointed at Tuffguy and his rather irrational opinion that it's simply SUV's that are the reason that the number of drunken fatalities in the 20-49 age group are higher than the 16-19 age group. >>


you're right. i misread the percentages.

but my initial point still stands. when comparing two reckless drivers, on driving an SUV will cause a lot more damage than one driving a sedan.

 

[Ornery]

Aw, so sad. Poor TuffGuy ain't so tuff after all. Worried about being squished by a soccer mom... waahhhh

That's tuff al right. You've just joined the ranks of motorcyclists, pedestrians and bicyclists who hate ALL drivers. No, not all motorcyclists, pedestrians and bicyclists, just the ones who hate ALL drivers. Not very rational on their part is it? Not ALL drivers are idiots, but they are endangered by all vehicles, because driving any vehicle will cause a lot more damage than one riding a bike or walking.

 

[CocaCola5]

To be honest, I drive a smaller car and hardly ever find myself worrying about the bigger SUVs out there. As a matter of fact, I know for most types of accidents, my car will be safer.

 

[Ultima]

I've seen good SUV drivers and bad SUV drivers, however the bad SUV drivers are much more dangerous than the bad car drivers. Same with vans. Some retard in a van was tailgating me while I was going 90 in a 70 and when he got fed up he nearly clipped my bumper passing me. He then tailgated 2 other people. What a god damn retard, I hope he rolls over in a crash one day.

Edit:

Speeds are in km/h, not mph. Mph equivalent: I was going 55 in a 45

 

[Ultima]

<< Even econobox drivers could learn a little driving etiquette here and there. For instance, when you're first in line to turn left, how far do you pull up to the white line? Or do you actually pull over that line? If you do, why? Makes it that much harder for people turning left from your right to get around. It's particularly a pain in the ass for a tractor trailer to get around. Why not hang back a bit? Will you get where you're going that much faster by hogging part of the intersection?

And how many of you block drives when you're stopped in traffic? It's not a life endangering issue, but it certainly is considerate to allow people to enter and exit a driveway. Econobox drivers can be just as inconsiderate, that's for sure! >>



Yeah, that's true. I don't understand the point of doing this at all..