I hate Steam.

[Whitecloak]

Originally posted by: Sam25

Ouch. What's your connection's max downstream?

Umm...it's a 1mbps unlimited connection and I pay around $55 for it every month. There is another option available of a 16mbps connection but it's got a 8gb download limit.

airtel?

 

[Oakenfold]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
I'm downloading my 3+gb TF2 file at 22.5kbps. Yet another problem with this horribly conceived, terribly executed piece of malware junk.

Discuss.

Wait, let me get this straight, you are going to attempt to pin this on:
Your crappy DL speed?

P.S. we get it that you don't like Steam.

 

[BFG10K]

Give me local media over Steam any day. No internet connection is going to beat a 16xDVD-ROM for a file transfer.

 

[Genx87]

I have never had a problem with Steam. I usually get my games between 600KB-1.05MB\sec.

 

[Stuxnet]

I don't care for steam, but I appreciate its innovative qualities. Steam has some load balancing issues, and as I've voiced quite loudly before, I don't like that network inaccessibility can prevent you from accessing some of your games.

 

[ViviTheMage]

It was worse when the friends list didn't work for a few months...that sucked!

My downloads from STEAM are in the 4-5mb/s range at home...never had issues with download speeds.

 

[Beev]

I get about 700k/sec on my generic Roadrunner connection. Sounds like you've got issues on your end, OP.

 

[NeoV]

Steam is a fantastic product - in my experience, the people who complain the most about Steam are people that download game copies and don't want to pay for purchasing games.

Why are you constantly downloading games on STeam? You can backup games a number of different ways so you can re-install games from disk/CD/DVD instead of re-downloading them.

As for auto-patching the games - why is that possibly a bad thing?

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: NeoV
Steam is a fantastic product - in my experience, the people who complain the most about Steam are people that download game copies and don't want to pay for purchasing games.

Why are you constantly downloading games on STeam? You can backup games a number of different ways so you can re-install games from disk/CD/DVD instead of re-downloading them.

As for auto-patching the games - why is that possibly a bad thing?

That is my favorite feature of steam.

 

[GaryJohnson]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
Give me local media over Steam any day. No internet connection is going to beat a 16xDVD-ROM for a file transfer.

If your buying B&M it won't, but if you order online then downloading is quite a bit faster than waiting a few days on a truck.

 

[zerogear]

2.4Mbps here.

 

[skace]

If you download TCPVIEW you can close the connections Steam makes and it may reconnect to a different download site at a faster speed. Not my advice, it's from the penny-arcade Steam thread. I forget the other instructions, think it might be certain ports or certain addresses.

 

[SunnyD]

I'm usually pulling 1.2-1.4MB/sec from Steam's Atlanta servers (Of course my ISP has insane connections to Atlanta anyway, something on the order of 25Mbit/sec on a good day). My suggestion is start picking different download servers in the preferences section.

 

[msi1337]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
I'm downloading my 3+gb TF2 file at 22.5kbps. Yet another problem with this horribly conceived, terribly executed piece of malware junk.

Discuss.

I love steam!!

your connection is /fail

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

What is your connection?

I am on cable and I reach as high at 1.5mb/s

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: A Casual Fitz
Another vote for Steam being sweet...OP fail.

i hate the DRM known as Steam also

:thumbsdown:

they sure got you guys fooled
:roll:

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: apoppin
they sure got you guys fooled
:roll:

Yea, they tricked me into using a superior platform that allows me to track where all my friends are playing and quickly and easily join their servers. Those fuckers!

 

[apoppin]

for now

good luck

just remember you are warned

it is a crap DRM platform for me and i do not support them

 

[Daverino]

Originally posted by: apoppin
for now

good luck

just remember you are warned

it is a crap DRM platform for me and i do not support them

Oh teh noes! Valve is going out of business and all my Steam games will be lost!

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: NeoV
Steam is a fantastic product - in my experience, the people who complain the most about Steam are people that download game copies and don't want to pay for purchasing games.

Why are you constantly downloading games on STeam? You can backup games a number of different ways so you can re-install games from disk/CD/DVD instead of re-downloading them.

As for auto-patching the games - why is that possibly a bad thing?

Steam has some good qualities, but to beat a dead horse, its major limitation is that you cannot resell your games once you're done with them. I and many others purchase our games. We also don't appreciate the assumption we're involved in piracy just because we have a legitimate gripe with Steam.

As for auto-patching...I don't like being a beta tester thank you very much. Sometimes patches break previously saved games as well (Stalker comes to mind immediately). However, I believe you can disable auto-updates on a per-game basis, but IMO this should be the default setting (or perhaps a download but don't install until I give you permission setting like Windows Update has).

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: NeoV
Steam is a fantastic product - in my experience, the people who complain the most about Steam are people that download game copies and don't want to pay for purchasing games.

Why are you constantly downloading games on STeam? You can backup games a number of different ways so you can re-install games from disk/CD/DVD instead of re-downloading them.

As for auto-patching the games - why is that possibly a bad thing?

Steam has some good qualities, but to beat a dead horse, its major limitation is that you cannot resell your games once you're done with them. I and many others purchase our games. We also don't appreciate the assumption we're involved in piracy just because we have a legitimate gripe with Steam.

As for auto-patching...I don't like being a beta tester thank you very much. Sometimes patches break previously saved games as well (Stalker comes to mind immediately). However, I believe you can disable auto-updates on a per-game basis, but IMO this should be the default setting (or perhaps a download but don't install until I give you permission setting like Windows Update has).

I agree.

@Daverino, apoppin is right to warn you: it's highly unlikely that Steam will fold, but Steam users have no legally binding guarantee from the company ensuring access to their games in the event that this should ever happen.

 

[BFG10K]

Originally posted by: NeoV

Steam is a fantastic product - in my experience, the people who complain the most about Steam are people that download game copies and don't want to pay for purchasing games.

That paragraph is the exact opposite of me. I pay for all commercial games and I?m proud to support the industry. That?s why I don?t like it when DRM pisses on my rights, DRM like Steam.

Why are you constantly downloading games on STeam?

I?m not, I?m talking about the initial installation. One recent example was where I had finished Fear 2 but another guy still hadn?t finished downloading it through Steam.

Yes, some of you might be lucky and find it ?only? takes 20-30 times longer to download than a disc install, but others with slower connections can be waiting for days.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Yes, some of you might be lucky and find it ?only? takes 20-30 times longer to download than a disc install, but others with slower connections can be waiting for days.

Isn't that why they sell disc versions? If you have a slow internet, buy the disc version.

Anyway, Steam offers a lot of utility for me. I like the ingame chat program. That way I don't have to use crossfire. I also like how I can play my games on anyone's computer. It makes changing computers much easier.

That said, I usually only buy Valve games from Steam.

 

[Jack Flash]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

That paragraph is the exact opposite of me. I pay for all commercial games and I?m proud to support the industry. That?s why I don?t like it when DRM pisses on my rights, DRM like Steam.
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You agree to their TOS when you buy a game from Steam. What 'rights' are you referring to?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: apoppin
for now

good luck

just remember you are warned

it is a crap DRM platform for me and i do not support them

You rather have rootkits that break cd verification eh?