I hate programming

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
I'm not in CS, THANK FVCKING GOD. I'm Computer/Electrical engineering. For some fvcking reason, we have to take three Java courses; the last of which I'm in now. I do not and will never need to fvcking program in Java, probably never in any language for that matter. But I'm stuck doing this stupid sh!t with linked lists and I've got a fvcking program due next week that I haven't started because I hate this sh!t that much. :|

EDIT And I did a bunch of # programming last year, it wasn't that bad. Programming for a microcontroller. But Java is just a bunch of sh!t

Why do you hate it so?

Because he doesn't understand it. That's the reason behind all "[insert language here] sucks" threads.

 

[Ausm]

My Brother is a programmer and he claims that Java is cabbage head to program.


Ausm

 

[yourdeardaniel]

java is easier for me than C++
all this crap about pointers blah

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: yourdeardaniel
java is easier for me than C++
all this crap about pointers blah

Pointers rock :thumbsup:
I love being able to have a vector of huge fat data structures sorted 6 different ways simultaneously without moving or copying them once

But I've never done anything serious with Java - maybe they have a way to do that also.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Ausm
My Brother is a programmer and he claims that Java is cabbage head to program.


Ausm

indeed, that's the goal. Java and C# are high level languages designed to help make programmers more productive. The less time they spend having to write their own utility classes and framework classes the more time they spend on actual business logic and get the requirements of the job done.

 

[johnjbruin]

java : Programming languages :: 1st grade : 12th grade

it is seriously that easy

 

[Cooler]

OMG how can you hate java Have you even Tried FORTRAN or ASM.

 

[GML3G0]

public class HelloWorld
{
public static void main (String[] args)
{
System.out.println ("Suck it up... errr... hello, world ");
}
}

 

Proramming sucks.
Glad I'm out of that field.

 

[shilala]

I hate BAD programming.
That is all.

On an aside, my buddy called. He says he's coming by with money this weekend...

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: Skiguy411
Do you go to NCSU??!?

Yup

Neat, I didn't know that, I'm a Durham-ite myself. I loves me some Java programming though, it's how I pay the bills. Sounds like you want to get into product management or are you looking to start your own bidness and be one of them entreupaneurs (sp?)?

Oh and STATE CAN SUCK IT!!! DA heelz own you luzers!

Sorry about that, my immature childish side tends to come out in ATOT...

 

[The Pentium Guy]

I absolutely HATE taking programming courses. They're so damn boring.
Now about programming on my own? Hell yes. I even run a website dedicated to teaching game programming in VB.NET. www.vbprogramming.8k.com if you're interested.

Now on the topic about programming........ we definately need a programming forum here. Hopefully we'll get some more replies in this thread before they move it over to SAPG.

-The Pentium Guy

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
That is all :|

Oh my God. JAVA is da bomb. It's teh best thing out there. Wait till you start developing. It's more of system intgration than coding if you ask me.

I can load in XML files an d draw SVG graphics and all that work is already built into Java somewhere in open source projects. Batik, etc ...

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Neat, I didn't know that, I'm a Durham-ite myself. I loves me some Java programming though, it's how I pay the bills. Sounds like you want to get into product management or are you looking to start your own bidness and be one of them entreupaneurs (sp?)?

Oh and STATE CAN SUCK IT!!! DA heelz own you luzers!

Sorry about that, my immature childish side tends to come out in ATOT...

Definitely more into business, marketing, etc. I love technology and I'm a very technical person, and I enjoy most of my engineering classes (just won't even use them the way the prof's intend). But this Java course (Data Structures technically) is worthless as SH!T for my future. Some programming, sure yes fine. But not this ball-busting-time-wasting-stupid-CSC-geek class.

Ideally I'd like to get paid well for doing what I do already (see sig ), but for now I'll probly go into a technical-related field that involves the people side of technology. Consulting, PR, maybe even sales. Who knows. Got a contact @ one of the top three PC mfr's in the US who really likes me, keeps joking about how much its going to cost him to hire me when I gragitate

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Neat, I didn't know that, I'm a Durham-ite myself. I loves me some Java programming though, it's how I pay the bills. Sounds like you want to get into product management or are you looking to start your own bidness and be one of them entreupaneurs (sp?)?

Oh and STATE CAN SUCK IT!!! DA heelz own you luzers!

Sorry about that, my immature childish side tends to come out in ATOT...

Definitely more into business, marketing, etc. I love technology and I'm a very technical person, and I enjoy most of my engineering classes (just won't even use them the way the prof's intend). But this Java course (Data Structures technically) is worthless as SH!T for my future. Some programming, sure yes fine. But not this ball-busting-time-wasting-stupid-CSC-geek class.

Ideally I'd like to get paid well for doing what I do already (see sig ), but for now I'll probly go into a technical-related field that involves the people side of technology. Consulting, PR, maybe even sales. Who knows. Got a contact @ one of the top three PC mfr's in the US who really likes me, keeps joking about how much its going to cost him to hire me when I gragitate

Oh I'm well aware of your contributions in the SFF/Notebook forum here and at your own site. And Anand seems to have done pretty well in this space. It sounds like you don't want to do any programming, so go take some statistics, finance and business classes. It's great that you have the background, but if you don't want to get into the nitty-gritty programming/engineering details, you really shouldn't concentrate in CSC or engineering.

Some people have the love and passion for programming and some don't. Those people who don't usually end up being our bosses But we still know more than they do

 

[fbrdphreak]

Well this is my senior year in CPE/EE (dual major), so changing majors it out of the question I also hated statistics, go figure. Altho I'm sure I could force myself to learn it for a job. FOr now I'm just going to try and keep the engineering GPA as high as I can, luckily I've got some great real world experience to back up my resume and the odd ambitions of NOT doing something in design/research :Q

 

[Skiguy411]

I'm a freshman at NCSU in the COE. I also plan on going in to EE(perhaps CPE as well). What would you say was the hardest semester for you?

 

[bubbadu]

I am in my senior year, not sure how I managed to get this far. This semester I am taking a lame web design class (filler credit), Artifical Intelligence, and Operating Systems. 16 credits this semester and 14 the next and I am DONE. I minored in stats and have taken 6 stat classes which have all been pretty decent. I would stick with CS and if you put the effort in, its worth it.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin
java : Programming languages :: 1st grade : 12th grade

it is seriously that easy

Well, I don't know that I'd go THAT far , but Java is in fact relatively simple, especially when compared to C/C++. I think the obstacle that most Java-programmers-in-training run into is that it's the first TRUE object-oriented language they've had to deal with. Java practically forces you to write OO code, and if it's the first time you've ever really been forced to do it, it can seem "stupid" and "overly complicated".

When given the choice between programming Java or one of the .NET languages, I'd pick .NET the majority of the time (depending on the end-goal), but I certainly don't hate Java. In fact, I don't know that I've met anyone who legitimately KNEW Java and didn't have some level of appreciation for it.

 

[Reel]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: johnjbruin
java : Programming languages :: 1st grade : 12th grade

it is seriously that easy

Well, I don't know that I'd go THAT far , but Java is in fact relatively simple, especially when compared to C/C++. I think the obstacle that most Java-programmers-in-training run into is that it's the first TRUE object-oriented language they've had to deal with. Java practically forces you to write OO code, and if it's the first time you've ever really been forced to do it, it can seem "stupid" and "overly complicated".

When given the choice between programming Java or one of the .NET languages, I'd pick .NET the majority of the time (depending on the end-goal), but I certainly don't hate Java. In fact, I don't know that I've met anyone who legitimately KNEW Java and didn't have some level of appreciation for it.

:thumbsup:Well-documented and very full-featured. It has specific uses. I don't know that I would ever want to develop commercial software using Java because of the ease of reducing byte code to source code and the memory overhead of the VM as well as the slowness in execution. However, I don't hate it and there are many basic tasks that you can write in Java that are much simpler than in C/C++. Granted, a good C/C++ programmer will end up creating their own library of utilities that they use or adopting someone's. Unfortunately, Java's libraries tend to lead to a less efficient program. If you were manipulating 100,000 records in a linked list and you used Java's implementation of linked list and then you used your own more tailored to the situation, I am sure you could do better time-wise. It is just the nature of the beast. With that said, it is still a great language for learning and schoolwork.