i hate my 9500pro

[nutxo]

Soo, due to several bad choices Im stuck with a built by ati 9500pro, it wont oc and the highest i can get oout of it is 13k in 3dmark and it plays cs and daoc like crap :-(

I want my 4600 back,.. :-(

 

[Rogozhin]

send it back, if you can't sell it on ebay, if I had either of my two old geforce 4s I'd trade you.

what's the point of this inane thread?

rogo

 

[CraigRT]

I was worried I'd have problems with my 9700 pro as well as my NVidia cards ALWAYS worked.. no problems ever.
that's just bad luck that some of your games run like crap.

since I switched from my overclocked P4 to my XP2500+ my 3dmark2k1 score went down about 3,000 points to about 12,500 with a 9700 Pro. I guess I should really O/C the CPU...

sorry to hear about that though.. was one of my fears when switching to an ATI.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Trade you my MSI Ti4200 for it. Overclocks like a mother.

(only quasi-serious)

- M4H

 

[Viper96720]

Did you flash to an unlocked bios? It's strength isn't a 3dmark score. It's IQ when running with AA&AF at acceptable frame rates.

 

[Corporate Thug]

13K in 3dmark with a 9500 pro doesnt seem to bad to me, what CPU?

 

[justagamer]

hi.., i will buy it from you..., where are you and how much do you want for it?????

 

[waylman]

Originally posted by: nutxo
Soo, due to several bad choices Im stuck with a built by ati 9500pro, it wont oc and the highest i can get oout of it is 13k in 3dmark and it plays cs and daoc like crap :-(

I want my 4600 back,.. :-(

The 9500PRO overclocks. You need to flash the bios. Instructions are at Rage3D.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: shady06
13K in 3dmark with a 9500 pro doesnt seem to bad to me, what CPU?

yeah I can't even get that with my 9700 pro.... i got 15,500 once, but that was when i had my 2.4B @ 3.0

my XP2500+ Barton at stock speeds just doesn't cut it

 

[Regs]

And tomshardware.com got 12,600 with a P4 3.06 and 12,700 with a 2700+ amd, your point?

Ever think beyond the video card? Maybe because your OS is crashy.. or maybe its just time to re-install some software?

 

[TxGuy227]

Ill trade ya my Visiontek TI4600 for it. Its still pretty new and Iv'e never ran it overlcocked or anything, still have the box for it.

Let me know.

Txguy227
astetson@houston.rr.com

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: shady06
13K in 3dmark with a 9500 pro doesnt seem to bad to me, what CPU?

yeah I can't even get that with my 9700 pro.... i got 15,500 once, but that was when i had my 2.4B @ 3.0

my XP2500+ Barton at stock speeds just doesn't cut it

this is my first pro

xp 1700@2.2ghz

System Configuration
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP

DirectX Version 8.1



Mobo Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.

Mobo Model A7N8X2.0

AGP Rates (Current/Available) 2x / 4x 8x



CPU AMD Duron(tm) Processor 2194 MHz

FSB 200 MHz

Memory 512 MB



Graphics Chipset ATI RADEON 9700/9500 Series

Driver Name RADEON 9700/9500 SERIES

Driver Version 6.14.10.6334

Video Memory 128 MB



Program Version 3DMark2001 SE

Resolution 1024x768 32bit

Texture Format Compressed

FSAA Disabled

Z-Buffer Depth 24bit

Frame Buffer Double

Rendering Pipeline D3D Pure Hardware T&L



Detailed Test Results
3DMark Score 15435 3D marks



Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail 203.2 FPS

Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail 72.8 FPS

Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail 300.0 FPS

Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail 155.8 FPS

Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail 195.1 FPS

Game 3 Lobby - High Detail 86.7 FPS

Game 4 Nature 107.4 FPS



Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 1788.9 MTexels/s

Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 2446.1 MTexels/s



High Polygon Count (1 light) 66.4 MTriangels/s

High Polygon Count (8 lights) 15.4 MTriangels/s



Environment Bump Mapping 176.5 FPS

DOT3 Bump Mapping 219.2 FPS



Vertex Shader 199.6 FPS

Pixel Shader 307.5 FPS

Advanced Pixel Shader 206.2 FPS



Point Sprite 39.9

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: shady06
13K in 3dmark with a 9500 pro doesnt seem to bad to me, what CPU?

Yeah, that's really good. My wife's system gets 10,300 with a 9700 gold, 1gb DDR333 and 1700+ @stock. 700mhz and a better mobo countered by faster vpu really = 3000pts difference?

Hmmm...15500? Which is it

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
I was worried I'd have problems with my 9700 pro as well as my NVidia cards ALWAYS worked.. no problems ever.
that's just bad luck that some of your games run like crap.

since I switched from my overclocked P4 to my XP2500+ my 3dmark2k1 score went down about 3,000 points to about 12,500 with a 9700 Pro. I guess I should really O/C the CPU...

sorry to hear about that though.. was one of my fears when switching to an ATI.

Why did you switch?

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: shady06
13K in 3dmark with a 9500 pro doesnt seem to bad to me, what CPU?

Yeah, that's really good. My wife's system gets 10,300 with a 9700 gold, 1gb DDR333 and 1700+ @stock. 700mhz and a better mobo countered by faster vpu really = 3000pts difference?

Hmmm...15500? Which is it

the first one did some really funky stuff so i went and got a powercolor 9700 that would hardly do 12k, then got this card

 

[Malladine]

So you got a 9700 which funked on you, then a 9700 which was "slow" then this 9500 pro?

Ok.

Seriously, 13k is excellent. I wouldn't worry about it. And as far as CS and DAoC go...try running CS in D3D mode. DAoC: I actually bought a radeon to replace my gf2 when I first played it due to compatibilty issues with the nv card. *shrug*. I can't imagine why DAoC wouldn't run like a dream unless you haven't installed all your drivers (chipset etc). Maybe you should reformat?

 

[T9D]

..

 

[Malladine]

downgrade ya mean?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
I was worried I'd have problems with my 9700 pro as well as my NVidia cards ALWAYS worked.. no problems ever.
that's just bad luck that some of your games run like crap.

since I switched from my overclocked P4 to my XP2500+ my 3dmark2k1 score went down about 3,000 points to about 12,500 with a 9700 Pro. I guess I should really O/C the CPU...

sorry to hear about that though.. was one of my fears when switching to an ATI.

Yes......yes you should overclock that CPU! You board is chompin' at the bit

 

[Lonyo]

AGP Rates (Current/Available) 2x / 4x 8x

You thought of setting your AGP speed at 4x? I *think* it might do a little, because 2x to 4x does surely give some extra performance.

 

[nutxo]

mo,.the first card i got was a 9500, the store had no more so i got a 9700 which was a huge smelly turd of a card. now i have this.

As to the upgrade thing, I sold many computer parts to buy a car, when i started rebuilding I ended up with a ti4800se, which was a great card. I was diong a build for a guy that wanted the same card in his machine but it wasnt available so I gave him mine....

 

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by: nutxo

mo,.the first card i got was a 9500, the store had no more so i got a 9700 which was a huge smelly turd of a card.

 

[Creig]

How do you figure that a 9700 is a "smelly turd of a card"? It's faster than a 9500 PRO. Plus most of them can reach 9700 Pro speed through a combination of GPU/memory overclocking. Sounds like an Nvidia fanatic who's simply out to bash ATI products.

 

[Booster]

Heck, wish I had your problems. I just went from a GF2MX to a Radeon 7000 and man... this is a stunning experience. All the images look brighter and crisper. DVDs and even avi files seem to play better (or maybe it only seems so). This seems so much better than that MX crap. I don't understand how you can hate a Radeon.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Creig
How do you figure that a 9700 is a "smelly turd of a card"? It's faster than a 9500 PRO. Plus most of them can reach 9700 Pro speed through a combination of GPU/memory overclocking. Sounds like an Nvidia fanatic who's simply out to bash ATI products.

The 9700 i got was a pos, im not saying all are. I did almost 16k with a 9500 and the 9700 I got couldnt even get close to that.

I dont feel an need to bash cards, ATI has a record thta speaks for itself. Take thta anyway you want. A while back I was stuck using an old 7200 and I honestly think it was a better product , comparatively , than ati is putting out right now. It played everything very well, if a little slow.

There are way to many variances between manufactureres. The ati "experience " seems to swing both ways, either very happy or very disappointed. Im very disappointed. I honestly think thta any new card should be able to play anything already out, especially if its an almost 300 dollar card, after tax.