I HATE MACS!!!!

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bearxor

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You're probably just not used to it. I went cold turkey at work for three months when I got my new job and didn't touch my home pc at all. It worked out fine in the end. I don't really have a preference and feel at home with both of them. They both have their quirks and annoyances and neither is perfect. Mac fiends just think it's perfect because of how OS 9 was. That is a PITA to work with. Compared to OS 9, 8 and 7 (which are all still in use at my office) OS X is like a gift from the operating system gods but isn't drastically wonderfully better than windows that some people would have you believe.
 

spikespiegal

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Build me a system that is similar in performance to the Mac Pro for the same price. Please.

I can build a Core 2 Duo system for half the price of the Mac Pro that will have the same if not a smidge better performance because I'm using Core 2 Duos and not the Xeon. I'd could happily list out the parts and total price, and alo explain to you why two dual core processors at 2.66 aren't any better than a single dual core processor at the same clock - unless you're rendering crystal balls or ripping porn videos.

However, you'd simply run back to Apple.Com and quote some more smack nobody in the technology industry other than Apple users believe. This is why Apple has a 5% market share in the home market and .001% on the corporate market (if that).

Here's a question for you: please show me an iMac faster than the Mac Pro. Intel makes Core 2 Duos that Apple could easily slap into a tower that would beat the Mac Pro in price and speed just like my rig above. The problem is that Apple won't do this because they want to keep their Mac Pro users happy and thinking they have the superior platform. We PC users on the other hand don't have to deal with being told by our OS maker what tier platform we can run, and can pick and choose our own.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: Cabages
Originally posted by: doze
I hate mac commercials

I hate those too. They either make the smallest thing thats better in a mac, like the detachable power cord, and blow them up into the best selling point, or they just blatantly make up steriotypes about PC users.

You know what Apple, fvck you. I can build a faster PC than it would cost for you Mac trash. I get it already. Your classy and stylish. If I ever want a sex change, ill look you up.

cabbages has 2 'b's in it.
 

spikespiegal

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OS X is like a gift from the operating system gods but isn't drastically wonderfully better than windows that some people would have you believe.

Which version? OSX is so perfect Apple is on their fifth version of it while I still use Win2K server for very large image editing.

This is funny because the the average Apple user I know is running a newer version of OSX than the average Windows user, yet Apple users will be quick to point out that OSX is better than Windows because it doesn't have to upgraded as much.

Oh yeah - with OSX you nver need to download and install drivers either.

????
 

tweakmm

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You sucks at Macs.
I'm currently in the process of buying a desktop machine to replace my Powerbook.

OSX is simply a superior OS with much superior productivity software.

Seriously, if you are running OSX get Quicksilver(possibly the greatest app ever made).
 

Merlyn3D

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Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Build me a system that is similar in performance to the Mac Pro for the same price. Please.

I can build a Core 2 Duo system for half the price of the Mac Pro that will have the same if not a smidge better performance because I'm using Core 2 Duos and not the Xeon. I'd could happily list out the parts and total price, and alo explain to you why two dual core processors at 2.66 aren't any better than a single dual core processor at the same clock - unless you're rendering crystal balls or ripping porn videos.

However, you'd simply run back to Apple.Com and quote some more smack nobody in the technology industry other than Apple users believe. This is why Apple has a 5% market share in the home market and .001% on the corporate market (if that).

Here's a question for you: please show me an iMac faster than the Mac Pro. Intel makes Core 2 Duos that Apple could easily slap into a tower that would beat the Mac Pro in price and speed just like my rig above. The problem is that Apple won't do this because they want to keep their Mac Pro users happy and thinking they have the superior platform. We PC users on the other hand don't have to deal with being told by our OS maker what tier platform we can run, and can pick and choose our own.

Find me a PC laptop that has the same dimensions as the 15" macbook pro (C2D) and yields the same or better performance and specs for the price.
 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: spikespiegal


Oh yeah - with OSX you nver need to download and install drivers either.

????

Yea, because you're never allowed to change the hardware, except ram and HDs.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: Omegachi
i am using my friend's mac right now.

1. i can't delete the icon without drag and dropping

2. i can't arrange the items on the desktop

3. When i maximum my browser window... the window only maximizes vertically.

POS.

1. Yes, you can. Apple + delete.

2. Yes, you can. Apple + J on the Desktop.

3. This is actually a good thing...why waste desktop space? The green button actually maximizes the window based on the content on the page. Why would you make a window bigger then the content it's showing?

i always laugh at the people who have a giant blank space to the right of the content in the browser. i haven't maximized anything since i moved up from a 1024x768 monitor.

one woman, while giving a research class in a computer lab, asked me if something was wrong with the computer when she saw my un-maximized lexis-nexis page.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: spikespiegal


Oh yeah - with OSX you nver need to download and install drivers either.

????

Yea, because you're never allowed to change the hardware, except ram and HDs.
Yeah, because there have been so many PPC processors made for systems that weren't apple. I bet there were tons of Dreamcast users who were just itching to put their CPU in their tower.
If by saying RAM and HD you mean those two plus video card, network card, soundcard, and CPU upgrade then yeah, you can only upgrade the RAM and HD.
 

spikespiegal

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cabbages has 2 'b's in it.

Speaking of cabbages, I've had more intelligent conversations with most of them than Apple users.

Here's another question for Apple user they don't have the nuts to answer. For the past like, decade, I've heard nothing from the Apple crowd about how Intel sucks and Motorola will take over corporate computing. Then it was the IBM processor that ruled while Apple coulnd't give away Xservers. Now you guys are running over to the Core Duo so you can run apps inside Rosetta and take a huge performance hit. Gee, if you're hardware was so good before, why are you now raving about Intel? This would be like ATI using NVidia GPU's on their cards while ATI fanboys bad mouthed Nvidia.

So, if you've been full of crap for the past decade, what makes you not full of crap now?
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: spikespiegal
OS X is like a gift from the operating system gods but isn't drastically wonderfully better than windows that some people would have you believe.

Which version? OSX is so perfect Apple is on their fifth version of it while I still use Win2K server for very large image editing.

This is funny because the the average Apple user I know is running a newer version of OSX than the average Windows user, yet Apple users will be quick to point out that OSX is better than Windows because it doesn't have to upgraded as much.

Oh yeah - with OSX you nver need to download and install drivers either.

????

we get it dude, you don't like macs. Why are you so offended by people who do? I swear you have the mentality of a two year old. You insult Mac users and you praise Windows like it's the best OS on the face of the earth? What's the deal? Did Steve Jobs knock up your mom and you feel you have to take out your prepubescent anger on Mac users? Did the Mac commercial guy beat you up and steal your lunch money? I just don't get the anger man...chill out and get laid or something...
 

archcommus

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I've been trying to get used to OS X slowly but some things still annoy me, like not being able to open .mht files in Safari, or Safari opening .pdfs in some strange way that I can't seem to zoom on them, or not being able to tap the pad to click. I also want a taskbar although how it lays out all my open windows to preview them is very nice.
 

spikespiegal

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Find me a PC laptop that has the same dimensions as the 15" macbook pro (C2D) and yields the same or better performance and specs for the price

I don't use laptops because they suck in terms of price/performance, and I find most of the people using them don't care how much they cost because mommie and daddy are already paying their college tuition.

Dig?

I also owned my first portable MP3 player in 1998, it was much lighter than an iPod, smaller than an iPod, more durable than an iPod, cheaper than an iPod, and used a better DAC than an iPod. Funny what you find when you aren't a part of Apple's universe.

Oh yeah - if OSX requires fewer updates than Windows, why is there a big fvcking button that says 'upgrade OSX' when you log into the damn things?
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: spikespiegal
cabbages has 2 'b's in it.

Speaking of cabbages, I've had more intelligent conversations with most of them than Apple users.

Here's another question for Apple user they don't have the nuts to answer. For the past like, decade, I've heard nothing from the Apple crowd about how Intel sucks and Motorola will take over corporate computing. Then it was the IBM processor that ruled while Apple coulnd't give away Xservers. Now you guys are running over to the Core Duo so you can run apps inside Rosetta and take a huge performance hit. Gee, if you're hardware was so good before, why are you now raving about Intel? This would be like ATI using NVidia GPU's on their cards while ATI fanboys bad mouthed Nvidia.

So, if you've been full of crap for the past decade, what makes you not full of crap now?
You do make a good point about marketing.

Crazy that a business would hype their own product, I know :Q
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Oh yeah - if OSX requires fewer updates than Windows, why is there a big fvcking button that says 'upgrade OSX' when you log into the damn things?
Why does any version of Windows 9.x onward have automatic update set automatically?
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Find me a PC laptop that has the same dimensions as the 15" macbook pro (C2D) and yields the same or better performance and specs for the price

I don't use laptops because they suck in terms of price/performance, and I find most of the people using them don't care how much they cost because mommie and daddy are already paying their college tuition.

Dig?

I also owned my first portable MP3 player in 1998, it was much lighter than an iPod, smaller than an iPod, more durable than an iPod, cheaper than an iPod, and used a better DAC than an iPod. Funny what you find when you aren't a part of Apple's universe.

Oh yeah - if OSX requires fewer updates than Windows, why is there a big fvcking button that says 'upgrade OSX' when you log into the damn things?

yep, so everyone who uses laptops in businesses and school only has them because their mommies and daddys bought it for them. You got it buddy, you nailed it right on the head. I think we should get rid of laptops and stick with bringing our desktops to meetings and classrooms.
I think I've pegged your age at about 12. Maybe 11. You're certainly not old enough to actually use a computer for anything productive yet.
 

TheStu

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One thing that I had heard about the switch to intel was the IBM was no longer able to provide G5s at a low enough wattage to put them into the powerbook. that is the only real reason that I have heard though.

Personally I like my mac, and am a little bit of a zealot about it... but i do say that there are still thing that are just easier to do on a windows machine. Like when I want to send my roommate a file (I can't always connect to IM clients at home for some reason, in either OS) in windows I just share the folder... but in OS X i have to allow sharing permissions... for a specific folder, and then allow it for specific users. It just seems to take more time, plus the fact that i can't share just any old folder.

But multi-tasking is loads easier... and expose is awesome for that. Alt-tab just doesnt seem to get the job done, and never really did either. the new Alt-Tab in Vista also is not too impressive from my point of view. It is similar to expose, but seems to take that little bit of extra time that gets annoying. But whatever, to each their own.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Find me a PC laptop that has the same dimensions as the 15" macbook pro (C2D) and yields the same or better performance and specs for the price

I don't use laptops because they suck in terms of price/performance, and I find most of the people using them don't care how much they cost because mommie and daddy are already paying their college tuition.

Dig?

I also owned my first portable MP3 player in 1998, it was much lighter than an iPod, smaller than an iPod, more durable than an iPod, cheaper than an iPod, and used a better DAC than an iPod. Funny what you find when you aren't a part of Apple's universe.

Oh yeah - if OSX requires fewer updates than Windows, why is there a big fvcking button that says 'upgrade OSX' when you log into the damn things?

yep, so everyone who uses laptops in businesses and school only has them because their mommies and daddys bought it for them. You got it buddy, you nailed it right on the head. I think we should get rid of laptops and stick with bringing our desktops to meetings and classrooms.
I think I've pegged your age at about 12. Maybe 11. You're certainly not old enough to actually use a computer for anything productive yet.
Yup. As a computer consultant who works with medium sized institutions I can verify that the only people to buy Apple laptops are college kids. :roll:
 

LongCoolMother

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windows ftw!

we should have a poll to see how many people use windows vs mac!

that being said, my current computer science professor hates microsoft passionately and nitpicks about windows nonstop. At the same time, he complains about the crippled-ness of the unix system that OSX runs on. In other words, he has problems with both OSs, but hates microsoft more simply because more people use it.

He always advocates these strange OSs from decades ago that nobody has ever heard of. Not for their practicality, of course, but for their conceptual advantge.
 

Merlyn3D

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Originally posted by: spikespiegal
Find me a PC laptop that has the same dimensions as the 15" macbook pro (C2D) and yields the same or better performance and specs for the price

I don't use laptops because they suck in terms of price/performance, and I find most of the people using them don't care how much they cost because mommie and daddy are already paying their college tuition.

Dig?

I also owned my first portable MP3 player in 1998, it was much lighter than an iPod, smaller than an iPod, more durable than an iPod, cheaper than an iPod, and used a better DAC than an iPod. Funny what you find when you aren't a part of Apple's universe.

Oh yeah - if OSX requires fewer updates than Windows, why is there a big fvcking button that says 'upgrade OSX' when you log into the damn things?

Wow...how old are you? Don't make stupid generalizations like that. Just because you don't use laptops doesn't mean others shouldn't. For crying out loud, laptops are far more convenient and practical than desktops for most applications (excluding processor-heavy functions) because you can take your computer with you damn near anywhere. How naive can you be to think that everyone who has a laptop had their mommy or daddy buy it?

Dig? dig what?

And no one mentioned anything about ipods, that's a fire you started all on your own.

Don't reply unless you have something of value to contribute to the conversation.
 

Oil

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He always advocates these strange OSs from decades ago that nobody has ever heard of. Not for their practicality, of course, but for their conceptual advantge.

Amiga FTW