I hate linux, here's why - RANT.

[Yax]

I have a redhat 6.2 box with sendmail 8.x. I'm afraid to upgrade it because I don't know enough about linux to do so. I don't want to mess any thing up. At least with Microsoft, the upgrade process is simple and no headaches.

Now I've got a problem, I use linuxconf to configure things and every so often the linuxconf crashes on me. I have to restart it. This occurs mostly when I make changes to sendmail.

Now, I'm trying to make a virtual domain in sendmail. That's a major pain as well. ARGHHHH! Should've paid for exchange.

Well, since I'm on the topic can I configure sendmail to host virtual domains without having to configure a virtual IP for the virtual domain? I mean, can I have 1 IP on the linux box and a real domain name and a virtual domain name for emails? All I want to do is have emails to my new domain be forwarded to email accounts in my old domain. Anyone here a Sendmail and linux expert? How can this be done?

 

[Ameesh]

experience the quality of open source software. now what you need to do next is call ibm global services so they can fix your problems while they steal your cash and sodimize you with an as400

 

[DnetMHZ]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
experience the quality of open source software. now what you need to do next is call ibm global services so they can fix your problems while they steal your cash and sodimize you with an as400

:Q

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: dnetmhz

Originally posted by: Ameesh
experience the quality of open source software. now what you need to do next is call ibm global services so they can fix your problems while they steal your cash and sodimize you with an as400

:Q

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: dnetmhz

Originally posted by: Ameesh
experience the quality of open source software. now what you need to do next is call ibm global services so they can fix your problems while they steal your cash and sodimize you with an as400

:Q

 

[Maleficus]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
experience the quality of open source software. now what you need to do next is call ibm global services so they can fix your problems while they steal your cash and sodimize you with an as400

<3 Ameesh lol

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
I have a redhat 6.2 box with sendmail 8.x. I'm afraid to upgrade it because I don't know enough about linux to do so. I don't want to mess any thing up. At least with Microsoft, the upgrade process is simple and no headaches.

Now I've got a problem, I use linuxconf to configure things and every so often the linuxconf crashes on me. I have to restart it. This occurs mostly when I make changes to sendmail.

Now, I'm trying to make a virtual domain in sendmail. That's a major pain as well. ARGHHHH! Should've paid for exchange.

Well, since I'm on the topic can I configure sendmail to host virtual domains without having to configure a virtual IP for the virtual domain? I mean, can I have 1 IP on the linux box and a real domain name and a virtual domain name for emails? All I want to do is have emails to my new domain be forwarded to email accounts in my old domain. Anyone here a Sendmail and linux expert? How can this be done?

This is why there are so many different resources to help you out. As for hosting virtual domain, I highly recommend configuring apache. apache = web server software. sendmail is for sending mail. I can help you out as much as I can by either pms or email.

Also, redhat 6.2 is so ancient. Since you are a new linux user, you might want to go for a more updated version of redhat or Mandrake. The latest distributions have really make things much easier to do (prevents you from learning a few things but it's easier for less knowledgeable folks to configure things)

 

[Yax]

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
I have a redhat 6.2 box with sendmail 8.x. I'm afraid to upgrade it because I don't know enough about linux to do so. I don't want to mess any thing up. At least with Microsoft, the upgrade process is simple and no headaches.

Now I've got a problem, I use linuxconf to configure things and every so often the linuxconf crashes on me. I have to restart it. This occurs mostly when I make changes to sendmail.

Now, I'm trying to make a virtual domain in sendmail. That's a major pain as well. ARGHHHH! Should've paid for exchange.

Well, since I'm on the topic can I configure sendmail to host virtual domains without having to configure a virtual IP for the virtual domain? I mean, can I have 1 IP on the linux box and a real domain name and a virtual domain name for emails? All I want to do is have emails to my new domain be forwarded to email accounts in my old domain. Anyone here a Sendmail and linux expert? How can this be done?

This is why there are so many different resources to help you out. As for hosting virtual domain, I highly recommend configuring apache. apache = web server software. sendmail is for sending mail. I can help you out as much as I can by either pms or email.

Also, redhat 6.2 is so ancient. Since you are a new linux user, you might want to go for a more updated version of redhat or Mandrake. The latest distributions have really make things much easier to do (prevents you from learning a few things but it's easier for less knowledgeable folks to configure things)

Well, I don't really care about web hosting. I just want to get sendmail to receive email addressed to my new domain, then forward it to my user accounts in my old domain. Is there an easy way to do this or does it have to be the linux way? I can do the DNS, firewall port forwarding, etc. Just need to know how to configure sendmail. I'm seriously considering buying an Exchange server, but dang the price on that.

 

[nd]

Sounds like you're relatively inexperienced and aren't very resourceful to learn and figure things out for yourself. And since you're posting here apparently you don't known anyone personally that can help you with these things.

Even though I disagree with the sentiment of Ameesh's ridiculous remark, you probably would be better off locking yourself into the Microsoft world. Have fun.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
I have a redhat 6.2 box with sendmail 8.x. I'm afraid to upgrade it because I don't know enough about linux to do so. I don't want to mess any thing up. At least with Microsoft, the upgrade process is simple and no headaches.

Now I've got a problem, I use linuxconf to configure things and every so often the linuxconf crashes on me. I have to restart it. This occurs mostly when I make changes to sendmail.

Now, I'm trying to make a virtual domain in sendmail. That's a major pain as well. ARGHHHH! Should've paid for exchange.

Well, since I'm on the topic can I configure sendmail to host virtual domains without having to configure a virtual IP for the virtual domain? I mean, can I have 1 IP on the linux box and a real domain name and a virtual domain name for emails? All I want to do is have emails to my new domain be forwarded to email accounts in my old domain. Anyone here a Sendmail and linux expert? How can this be done?

This is why there are so many different resources to help you out. <subliminal>i am here for you comrade</subliminal>As for hosting virtual domain, I highly recommend configuring apache. apache = web server software. sendmail is for sending mail. I can help you out as much as I can by either pms or email.
<subliminal>join the party</subliminal>
Also, redhat 6.2 is so ancient. Since you are a new linux user, you might want to go for a more updated version of redhat <subliminal>it is for the greater good</subliminal>or Mandrake. The latest distributions have really make things much easier<subliminal>communism is a way of life</subliminal> to do (prevents you from learning a few things but it's easier for less knowledgeable folks to configure things)<subliminal>Brotherhood</subliminal>

:Q!

 

[Platypus]

If you aren't intelligent enough to learn how to use it, then don't and stop complaining about it. I hate helpless people.

 

[ggavinmoss]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
I have a redhat 6.2 box with sendmail 8.x. I'm afraid to upgrade it because I don't know enough about linux to do so. I don't want to mess any thing up. At least with Microsoft, the upgrade process is simple and no headaches.

Now I've got a problem, I use linuxconf to configure things and every so often the linuxconf crashes on me. I have to restart it. This occurs mostly when I make changes to sendmail.

Now, I'm trying to make a virtual domain in sendmail. That's a major pain as well. ARGHHHH! Should've paid for exchange.

Well, since I'm on the topic can I configure sendmail to host virtual domains without having to configure a virtual IP for the virtual domain? I mean, can I have 1 IP on the linux box and a real domain name and a virtual domain name for emails? All I want to do is have emails to my new domain be forwarded to email accounts in my old domain. Anyone here a Sendmail and linux expert? How can this be done?

This is why there are so many different resources to help you out. <subliminal>i am here for you comrade</subliminal>As for hosting virtual domain, I highly recommend configuring apache. apache = web server software. sendmail is for sending mail. I can help you out as much as I can by either pms or email.
<subliminal>join the party</subliminal>
Also, redhat 6.2 is so ancient. Since you are a new linux user, you might want to go for a more updated version of redhat <subliminal>it is for the greater good</subliminal>or Mandrake. The latest distributions have really make things much easier<subliminal>communism is a way of life</subliminal> to do (prevents you from learning a few things but it's easier for less knowledgeable folks to configure things)<subliminal>Brotherhood</subliminal>

:Q!

AHhahaaha. So true, comrade.

-geoff

 

[Rilescat]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
experience the quality of open source software. now what you need to do next is call ibm global services so they can fix your problems while they steal your cash and sodimize you with an as400

OH...so you work for Big Blue too, eh?

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Rilescat

Originally posted by: Ameesh
experience the quality of open source software. now what you need to do next is call ibm global services so they can fix your problems while they steal your cash and sodimize you with an as400

OH...so you work for Big Blue too, eh?

haha NO

 

[Yax]

Originally posted by: nd
Sounds like you're relatively inexperienced and aren't very resourceful to learn and figure things out for yourself. And since you're posting here apparently you don't known anyone personally that can help you with these things.

Even though I disagree with the sentiment of Ameesh's ridiculous remark, you probably would be better off locking yourself into the Microsoft world. Have fun.

Unfortunately, I know several people who like linux and that was how I got started. Personally, I think they waste too much time trying to accomplish things with thier linux boxes that can be done in a few simple steps with Microsoft products.

Yes there's lots of resources out there, I've looked all over the resources but its of little use since there's so much information, its hard to find the right set of info. I'd ask my friends but, I think I'm sick of doing so. Yes, I love the Microsoft world. At least there, I know where to turn to for answers (technet).

I'd say I know more about linux than many people who come on here and claim to know linux, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. And I claim that I'm no expert at it. I think even some linux experts are not experts with it. Those who are experts, spend way too much time trying to figure things out. I've seen them.

 

[silverpig]

I'm running windows 95 and outlook express keeps crashing and I don't want to upgrade cause I'm scared and MS sucks.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Rilescat

Originally posted by: Ameesh
experience the quality of open source software. now what you need to do next is call ibm global services so they can fix your problems while they steal your cash and sodimize you with an as400

OH...so you work for Big Blue too, eh?

haha NO

Big Bluescreen, that is...

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: cheapbidder01

Originally posted by: nd
Sounds like you're relatively inexperienced and aren't very resourceful to learn and figure things out for yourself. And since you're posting here apparently you don't known anyone personally that can help you with these things.

Even though I disagree with the sentiment of Ameesh's ridiculous remark, you probably would be better off locking yourself into the Microsoft world. Have fun.

Unfortunately, I know several people who like linux and that was how I got started. Personally, I think they waste too much time trying to accomplish things with thier linux boxes that can be done in a few simple steps with Microsoft products.

Yes there's lots of resources out there, I've looked all over the resources but its of little use since there's so much information, its hard to find the right set of info. I'd ask my friends but, I think I'm sick of doing so. Yes, I love the Microsoft world. At least there, I know where to turn to for answers (technet).

I'd say I know more about linux than many people who come on here and claim to know linux, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. And I claim that I'm no expert at it. I think even some linux experts are not experts with it. Those who are experts, spend way too much time trying to figure things out. I've seen them.

You actually use technet?!?!?! I work with MS products too but......Technet?!?!? What a colossal waste of time

 

[mpitts]

Stop crying and go buy Exchange then.

Christ, you are comparing two free products (Redhat and sendmail) to a product that costs over $1000.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: mpitts
Stop crying and go buy Exchange then.

Christ, you are comparing two free products (Redhat and sendmail) to a product that costs over $1000.

agreed he got what he paid for; nothing of value

 

[Spyro]

I'm struck dead with horror. Where did this ridiculous thread pop up from.......

I have a redhat 6.2 box with sendmail 8.x. I'm afraid to upgrade it because I don't know enough about linux to do so. I don't want to mess any thing up. At least with Microsoft, the upgrade process is simple and no headaches.

Here's a really good tip. Get a newer distro Try Mandrake 9.1 or the newest Red Hat. They're much more intuitive.

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
I have a redhat 6.2 box with sendmail 8.x. I'm afraid to upgrade it because I don't know enough about linux to do so. I don't want to mess any thing up. At least with Microsoft, the upgrade process is simple and no headaches.

Now I've got a problem, I use linuxconf to configure things and every so often the linuxconf crashes on me. I have to restart it. This occurs mostly when I make changes to sendmail.

Now, I'm trying to make a virtual domain in sendmail. That's a major pain as well. ARGHHHH! Should've paid for exchange.

Well, since I'm on the topic can I configure sendmail to host virtual domains without having to configure a virtual IP for the virtual domain? I mean, can I have 1 IP on the linux box and a real domain name and a virtual domain name for emails? All I want to do is have emails to my new domain be forwarded to email accounts in my old domain. Anyone here a Sendmail and linux expert? How can this be done?

This is why there are so many different resources to help you out. <subliminal>i am here for you comrade</subliminal>As for hosting virtual domain, I highly recommend configuring apache. apache = web server software. sendmail is for sending mail. I can help you out as much as I can by either pms or email.
<subliminal>join the party</subliminal>
Also, redhat 6.2 is so ancient. Since you are a new linux user, you might want to go for a more updated version of redhat <subliminal>it is for the greater good</subliminal>or Mandrake. The latest distributions have really make things much easier<subliminal>communism is a way of life</subliminal> to do (prevents you from learning a few things but it's easier for less knowledgeable folks to configure things)<subliminal>Brotherhood</subliminal>

:Q!

Get back, all of you!!!!! Ach! They're closing in on me! Madmen.... All over the place!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: mpitts
Stop crying and go buy Exchange then.

Christ, you are comparing two free products (Redhat and sendmail) to a product that costs over $1000.

agreed he got what he paid for; nothing of value

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Uh, I started with Redhat 7.2 when I first got into linux 2 years ago. Redhat 6.2 is a waste of time, wipe the machine and install something newer.

And Ameesh is just trolling as usual. I guess at least you gotta give him credit for doing it in a half-intelligent way (as opposed to the johnlog method).

edit: also, unless you have a specific reason to use sendmail, DON'T!

 

[cleverhandle]

Sendmail can be used with virtual domains in at least two ways, depending on your needs. The simpler, but more labor-intensive method, is to use the virtusertable and genericstable features in your mc file. This is the method detailed in the Virtual Domains section of sendmail.org. The more elegant, but initially more complex, method is to use a recent version of Cyrus IMAP and make a small hack in your sendmail.cf to tell Sendmail to pass Cyrus the full address of the recipient. You can find details for this in recent Cyrus docs and mailing lists.

If this is a "screw it up and get fired" task, then you need to seek professional assistance. Period. I think I know more about Sendmail than most folks, and I've set up Sendmail/Cyrus virtual domains in a lab, but I would not be comfortable dropping such a configuration into a running mail system on my own. There are just way too many ways to screw up. If you must do this yourself, then consider switching to Postfix/Courier - virtual domains under that configuration are easier to set up and are very well documented around the web.

edit: I didn't see this part before:

All I want to do is have emails to my new domain be forwarded to email accounts in my old domain.

Much simpler. All you need then is a virtusertable. Or if you're forwarding the whole domain, I think the VIRTUSER_DOMAIN macro will work, but I've never tested it out.

 

[Yax]

Originally posted by: cleverhandle
Sendmail can be used with virtual domains in at least two ways, depending on your needs. The simpler, but more labor-intensive method, is to use the virtusertable and genericstable features in your mc file. This is the method detailed in the Virtual Domains section of sendmail.org. The more elegant, but initially more complex, method is to use a recent version of Cyrus IMAP and make a small hack in your sendmail.cf to tell Sendmail to pass Cyrus the full address of the recipient. You can find details for this in recent Cyrus docs and mailing lists.

If this is a "screw it up and get fired" task, then you need to seek professional assistance. Period. I think I know more about Sendmail than most folks, and I've set up Sendmail/Cyrus virtual domains in a lab, but I would not be comfortable dropping such a configuration into a running mail system on my own. There are just way too many ways to screw up. If you must do this yourself, then consider switching to Postfix/Courier - virtual domains under that configuration are easier to set up and are very well documented around the web.

edit: I didn't see this part before:

All I want to do is have emails to my new domain be forwarded to email accounts in my old domain.

Much simpler. All you need then is a virtusertable. Or if you're forwarding the whole domain, I think the VIRTUSER_DOMAIN macro will work, but I've never tested it out.

Thanks for the advice. Actually, I was able to get the forwarding to work, but for some reason, the header info gets messed up. The return path in the header says <root>. Just RANTing to let out some steam. Now I have to take a look at the sendmail.cf file to see why the proper return path was not appended when the new domain name was converted to the old domain name. I hate dealing with the sendmail.cf file.