I hate Democrat versus Republican politics.

[Conky]

Why is it that Democrats feel the need to root against the USA in the war in Iraq? Could it be for any other reason than their hate for a Republican President? Do extra US casualties actually make them feel good? I have to question the mindset of any individual who has this type of thought process.

I suppose it would be better to go back to bombing Iraq whenever the President wanted to draw attention away from a character flaw like cheating on his wife with an employee in his actual Oval office.

Clinton-like "it aint a crime if you don't get caught" lack of morality is what gave us Worldcom, Enron, Anderson, and many more. But now it's Bush's fault because Clinton didn't get caught on that.

And 9-11 was Bush's fault too although Clinton could've nailed that bastard way before 9-11 if he wasn't more worried about jamming cigars in the orifices of certain employees.

I hate politics.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Why is it that Democrats feel the need to root against the USA in the war in Iraq? Could it be for any other reason than their hate for a Republican President? Do extra US casualties actually make them feel good? I have to question the mindset of any individual who has this type of thought process.

I suppose it would be better to go back to bombing Iraq whenever the President wanted to draw attention away from a character flaw like cheating on his wife with an employee in his actual Oval office.

Clinton-like "it aint a crime if you don't get caught" lack of morality is what gave us Worldcom, Enron, Anderson, and many more. But now it's Bush's fault because Clinton didn't get caught on that.

And 9-11 was Bush's fault too although Clinton could've nailed that bastard way before 9-11 if he wasn't more worried about jamming cigars in the orifices of certain employees.

I hate politics.

Hey Crimson, it's against the rules to have two accounts!

 

[Conky]

Shut up you, Monica wannabe.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Why is it that Democrats feel the need to root against the USA in the war in Iraq? Could it be for any other reason than their hate for a Republican President? Do extra US casualties actually make them feel good? I have to question the mindset of any individual who has this type of thought process.

Why is it that Republicans feel the need to root against the U.S. Constitution? Could it be for any other reason than their blind worship of a Republican President? Do extra civil liberties casualties actually make them feel good? I have to question the mental capacity of any individual who buys into these false generalizations or the similar nonsense from Crazyfool,

I suppose it would be better to go back to bombing Iraq whenever the President wanted to draw attention away from a character flaw like cheating on his wife with an employee in his actual Oval office.

As opposed to sitting on your hands (or at least on your ranch), allowing 9/11 to happen when your approval rating is falling and the economy is tanking and the corporate scandals involving your buddies like Ken Lay are swirling closer and closer? As opposed to invading other countries when your "war on terrorism" is falling apart because you can't find bin Laden? As opposed to the character flaw of lying to America about all of the intelligence information you don't have about Iraq? I suppose that would be better if you're a rabid political hack.

Clinton-like "it aint a crime if you don't get caught" lack of morality is what gave us Worldcom, Enron, Anderson, and many more.

Those corporate scandals are straight out of the Republican boardrooms and their Republican puppets in D.C. Is there anything you Bush apologists won't try to blame on Clinton?

But now it's Bush's fault because Clinton didn't get caught on that.

And 9-11 was Bush's fault too although Clinton could've nailed that bastard way before 9-11 if he wasn't more worried about jamming cigars in the orifices of certain employees.

I hate politics.

Right. Having just parroted the big neo-fascist (a.k.a. neo-con) lies, now you "hate politics". People like you are the problem. There isn't an intelligent, fact-based comment anywhere in your little troll. It's pure, "we the sheeple of the new Republican party" politics.

 

[gistech1978]

i question a president who invites attacks on our troops.
"bring em on" right?
oh wait, bush never said that, its just "revisionist history".

 

[tallest1]

WTF is up with the "Democrats/Liberals hate America" threads?

Questioning authority is normal you asshats. Questioning the administration does not make use Pro-Al Queda or whatever. We protested against the war because we'd figured things would end up like this. Hell, most of the world agreed and that doesn't happen often. So quit wrapping yourself with a flag thinking everything is going well 'cause its not and I'm gonna keep bitching till justice is served. Good vs. Evil rhetoric be damned.

P.S. - I hope you're happy that we're spending more money on Sadaam than the man who killed 2000+ Americans.

 

[Insane3D]

My reply from the other thread seems appropiate here...

Here's a scary thought. If both sides used half the effort and energy they dedicate to attacking the other side on *gasp* working together to get things done, imagine what could be accomplished.

 

[dpm]

To be honest, from an outsiders perspective, you are both as bad as each other. In fact, supporters of the two parties seem worse than the parties themselves, for venom, lack of compassion, and intellectual laziness.

Coming from a country where the identification based politics ("I am a republican, my dad is a republican, etc.) has been gradually declining in influence, to be replaced by issue based and, sadly, personality based politics, the state of public participation in US politics seems very sad, even if some of the politicians themselves, on both sides, seem very impressive.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
My reply from the other thread seems appropiate here...

Here's a scary thought. If both sides used half the effort and energy they dedicate to attacking the other side on *gasp* working together to get things done, imagine what could be accomplished.

This is a great quote. And pretty much my point.

If the parties would work together instead of viciously trying to tear each other apart, the country and the world would benefit.

I can't say I am 100% happy with the economy but considering the mental blow from 9-11 and the legacy of a country being led by a man with no morals what so ever before Bush but I think the USA is standing back up and showing that we are a great country. It bothers me that fellow Americans think we are not allowed to have a confident President and he should hang his head in shame because someone like Al Franken wants to make a career out of berating and second-judging him. Al Franken has always been second rate.

Iraq is not pretty but let's do the math... it's nothing like Kennedy' and Johnson's Vietnam with thousands and thousands of US Soldiers dead(50k+).

Freedom isn't free but thank God for technology that can keep the casualties low on our side.

I wouldn't care if Bush was a democrat or a communist. He is a moral man and I believe he will earn a place in history among some of the great Presidents after history has judged him.

And save your pathetic child-like responses that have anything to do with my username. Try and think a little before you blindly flame me. The truth is out there and it's not being fed to you by either party.

 

[Pers]

I wouldn't care if Bush was a democrat or a communist. He is a moral man and I believe he will earn a place in history among some of the great Presidents after history has judged him.

you are a simple, naive man.

your only gripe w/ politics is that you don't understand it.

don't pretend to know whether or not Bush has morals.
What you know is that he has lied to us several times, and his lies
have cost the lives of innocent people. (be they american lives or Iraqi lives)

That affects my life far more than Clinton getting blowjobs.

The world didn't become an instable wreck as a result of Clinton's "lack of morals".

The Palestine conflict didn't seem to boil up so intensely until 'your holier than thou' president took office.

He has no morals. he is a man full of deceit and agendas to fulfill. Any man so wrapped in a life of luxury is sure to have already been corrupted by money.

He is elite, you are not. You will never begin to understand his lifestyle. NO matter how many pictures you see of him in cowboy hats...he isn't a cowboy. He's the top .0001% of the world's social elite.

I'm so sick of hearing people crediting Bush to have morals! How dense are people? i can cover my actions w/ ideological rhetoric. BLah blah...god bless the US...!! Good vs. evil! Then i go and attack a sovereign nation while deliberately lying about weapons they posess? When will you people quit inhaling the cow sh!t in the farms you work in all day, and get the freakin picture?

 

[0roo0roo]

go back and look at what the republicans said when clinton was in office and in wars. by todays republicans standards, what they were saying would be practically treasonous.

 

[drewshin]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Why is it that Democrats feel the need to root against the USA in the war in Iraq? Could it be for any other reason than their hate for a Republican President? Do extra US casualties actually make them feel good? I have to question the mindset of any individual who has this type of thought process.

where did you get this perverse idea that democrats are rooting against the usa? or that u.s. casualties make them feel good? that's like saying that republicans get their jizz on whenever a black man is killed by racists if he gets too close to their white women.

 

[Nitemare]

The Dems want to assist the terrorists by generating negative support in the US. They want to keep the economy depressed because an election year is coming up

The Republicans don't like that

 

[Crypticburn]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Why is it that Democrats feel the need to root against the USA in the war in Iraq? Could it be for any other reason than their hate for a Republican President? Do extra US casualties actually make them feel good? I have to question the mindset of any individual who has this type of thought process.

I suppose it would be better to go back to bombing Iraq whenever the President wanted to draw attention away from a character flaw like cheating on his wife with an employee in his actual Oval office.

Clinton-like "it aint a crime if you don't get caught" lack of morality is what gave us Worldcom, Enron, Anderson, and many more. But now it's Bush's fault because Clinton didn't get caught on that.

And 9-11 was Bush's fault too although Clinton could've nailed that bastard way before 9-11 if he wasn't more worried about jamming cigars in the orifices of certain employees.

I hate politics.

I hate Democrat versus Republican politics, too... so we're in agreement! Now please refrain from INVOLVING yourself in them.

Crypticburn

 

[Pers]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
The Dems want to assist the terrorists by generating negative support in the US. They want to keep the economy depressed because an election year is coming up

The Republicans don't like that

wow...everything is that simple huh?

i guess fox news does seem legitimate and informative to those w/ unfortunate levels of intelligence.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Pers

Originally posted by: Nitemare
The Dems want to assist the terrorists by generating negative support in the US. They want to keep the economy depressed because an election year is coming up

The Republicans don't like that

wow...everything is that simple huh?

i guess fox news does seem legitimate and informative to those w/ unfortunate levels of intelligence.

I did not know you were the CEO of Fox...

I'm not that happy with the Republican party either, but since 80% of the posters on P&N are liberal Bush bashers I thought my input on that was not necessary.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Pers

Originally posted by: Nitemare
The Dems want to assist the terrorists by generating negative support in the US. They want to keep the economy depressed because an election year is coming up

The Republicans don't like that

wow...everything is that simple huh?

i guess fox news does seem legitimate and informative to those w/ unfortunate levels of intelligence.

I did not know you were the CEO of Fox...

I'm not that happy with the Republican party either, but since 80% of the posters on P&N are liberal Bush bashers I thought my input on that was not necessary.

actually their are more Conservative Bush questioners on this board than so called "Liberal Bashers"

In your opinion, anyone who questions shrub is automatically a liberal. If you look at peoples views and their political opinions on matters, their are more conservatives questioning the actions and motives of this administration than liberals. At least those Real conservatives who are honest to their beliefs rather than any particular party.

If you examine Bush's record, To follow and vote for him and claim to be conservative in the same sentance is hypocritical. Use your head and be honest to yourself not a polical party that veers far far away from their so-called belief structure.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Pers

Originally posted by: Nitemare
The Dems want to assist the terrorists by generating negative support in the US. They want to keep the economy depressed because an election year is coming up

The Republicans don't like that

wow...everything is that simple huh?

i guess fox news does seem legitimate and informative to those w/ unfortunate levels of intelligence.

I did not know you were the CEO of Fox...

I'm not that happy with the Republican party either, but since 80% of the posters on P&N are liberal Bush bashers I thought my input on that was not necessary.

actually their are more Conservative Bush questioners on this board than so called "Liberal Bashers"

In your opinion, anyone who questions shrub is automatically a liberal. If you look at peoples views and their political opinions on matters, their are more conservatives questioning the actions and motives of this administration than liberals. At least those Real conservatives who are honest to their beliefs rather than any particular party.

If you examine Bush's record, To follow and vote for him and claim to be conservative in the same sentance is hypocritical. Use your head and be honest to yourself not a polical party that veers far far away from their so-called belief structure.

See my other posts, I don't care for the man myself that much, but we need somebody who will go after terrorists and not appease them...this is something no Democrat is willing to state for fear of losing their party's nomination.

It's true I am a registered Republican, but I will be chainging it to Libertarian or Independent the next time I get my drivers license renewed.

 

[smashp]

who will go after terrorists and not appease them

Terrorists as defined in modern times cannot be stopped or ultimately defeated.


They occupy no defined land, can be located anywhere, can be an enemy within, can lay dorment indefinately,use unconvetional means, use are laws to their advantage, and dont follow the modern rules of War.

The primary reasons that we have been targeted by terrorist organizations is because we are seen as a great evil power using our power to mold the world to our liking and will.

So we are Fighting these terrorists by using our power to mold certain parts of the world to our liking. (?WTF?)

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: smashp

who will go after terrorists and not appease them

Terrorists as defined in modern times cannot be stopped or ultimately defeated.


They occupy no defined land, can be located anywhere, can be an enemy within, can lay dorment indefinately,use unconvetional means, use are laws to their advantage, and dont follow the modern rules of War.

The primary reasons that we have been targeted by terrorist organizations is because we are seen as a great evil power using our power to mold the world to our liking and will.

So we are Fighting these terrorists by using our power to mold certain parts of the world to our liking. (?WTF?)

Not in this pansy ass society that we live in. If we lived in a society in which they were captured then tortured until they were begging for death in front of their families....then maybe. All they understand is pain and death, I say give it to them in such a way that they rethink their positions on killing others

 

[maluckey]

I feel that both parties stink! It's no secret that I have strong personal views, and dislike Republicans and Democrats alike.

No amount of work can change human nature. Politics is about power and money. What kind of people are motivated by power and money? Exactly......! From the get-go, they are lacking in character, and the pooling together of so many of their ilk cannot help but encourage their bad ways.

I vote for the lesser evil (republican or Democrat) during any given election. I understatnd that they are all politicians, and cannot do a great job because of it. I choose the one that is likely to do something with full commitment. At least doing something, is always preferable to doing nothing, which is exactly the course that many career politicains take, for fear of doing somethng that might upset a voter.

My family minister said that any leader that is universally approved of for every action, isn't doing his job. Human nature is such that sometimes discipline is necessary, and NOBODY likes to be disciplined. Therefore any leader that is universally approved of, isn't showing discipline, and is only appeasing the masses. This does them no great favors.

 

[rjain]

Bush is a moral person because his poicies come from his conversations with God. It's just that simple.

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: rjain
Bush is a moral person because his poicies come from his conversations with God. It's just that simple.

Hmmmmmm.....you didn't add a or a

or a . I am fearful that you are serious. Please tell me otherwise.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Pers

I wouldn't care if Bush was a democrat or a communist. He is a moral man and I believe he will earn a place in history among some of the great Presidents after history has judged him.

you are a simple, naive man.

your only gripe w/ politics is that you don't understand it.

don't pretend to know whether or not Bush has morals.
What you know is that he has lied to us several times, and his lies
have cost the lives of innocent people. (be they american lives or Iraqi lives)

That affects my life far more than Clinton getting blowjobs.

The world didn't become an instable wreck as a result of Clinton's "lack of morals".

The Palestine conflict didn't seem to boil up so intensely until 'your holier than thou' president took office.

He has no morals. he is a man full of deceit and agendas to fulfill. Any man so wrapped in a life of luxury is sure to have already been corrupted by money.

He is elite, you are not. You will never begin to understand his lifestyle. NO matter how many pictures you see of him in cowboy hats...he isn't a cowboy. He's the top .0001% of the world's social elite.

I'm so sick of hearing people crediting Bush to have morals! How dense are people? i can cover my actions w/ ideological rhetoric. BLah blah...god bless the US...!! Good vs. evil! Then i go and attack a sovereign nation while deliberately lying about weapons they posess? When will you people quit inhaling the cow sh!t in the farms you work in all day, and get the freakin picture?

Well said :beer:

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: Pers

I wouldn't care if Bush was a democrat or a communist. He is a moral man and I believe he will earn a place in history among some of the great Presidents after history has judged him.

you are a simple, naive man.

your only gripe w/ politics is that you don't understand it.

don't pretend to know whether or not Bush has morals.
What you know is that he has lied to us several times, and his lies
have cost the lives of innocent people. (be they american lives or Iraqi lives)

That affects my life far more than Clinton getting blowjobs.

The world didn't become an instable wreck as a result of Clinton's "lack of morals".

The Palestine conflict didn't seem to boil up so intensely until 'your holier than thou' president took office.

He has no morals. he is a man full of deceit and agendas to fulfill. Any man so wrapped in a life of luxury is sure to have already been corrupted by money.

He is elite, you are not. You will never begin to understand his lifestyle. NO matter how many pictures you see of him in cowboy hats...he isn't a cowboy. He's the top .0001% of the world's social elite.

I'm so sick of hearing people crediting Bush to have morals! How dense are people? i can cover my actions w/ ideological rhetoric. BLah blah...god bless the US...!! Good vs. evil! Then i go and attack a sovereign nation while deliberately lying about weapons they posess? When will you people quit inhaling the cow sh!t in the farms you work in all day, and get the freakin picture?

Well said :beer: