I had a hell of a day

[krunchykrome]

I made an appointment with my doc this morning for my crazy headaches. Refer to my other thread.

I go in, he ask's me a few questions and then ten minutes later, he sends me off to the ER at the hospital. First they put an ivy in me. Then they draw god knows how much blood. Then came a cat scan, which was easy and not painful at all. Then came a spinal tap. I asked for alot of pain killers and drugs before they took fluid from my spine, so it didnt hurt much.

Good news, nothing is wrong and they gave me some oxycodone pain killers.

And I crushed my friend in Madden with my Ravens.

Tomorrow I leave for the weekend to go camping and white water rafting in PA. Hopefully Im not too sore.

 

[KillyKillall]

oh..and btw - get a new doctor

 

[Brutuskend]

I used to get BAD headaches ALL the time.

It was MSG.

I started reading the labels on EVERYTHING I ate and they went away.

Of course NOW I can't see worth a damn anymore.

Why must they make that printing so damn small?

Edit: Good to hear nothing showed up.

Try changing your diet and see if that helps.

 

[FP]

So are they headaches gone? Migranes perhaps?

 

[iwearnosox]

Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

 

[cerebusPu]

what you need is an angiogram. they should have put some contrast in you during the cat scan. i would be worried about an aneurysm if i were you.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: cerebusPu
what you need is an angiogram. they should have put some contrast in you during the cat scan. i would be worried about an aneurysm if i were you.

That's what the spinal tap was for you idiot.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: cerebusPu
what you need is an angiogram. they should have put some contrast in you during the cat scan. i would be worried about an aneurysm if i were you.

That's what the spinal tap was for you idiot.

Oh my gosh the amount of medical BS thrown around in this thread is enough to give me a headache....Here are the emergent and non-emergent indications of an LP(lumbar puncture)

LP is essential or extremely useful in the diagnosis of bacterial, fungal, mycobacterial, and viral CNS infections and, in certain settings, for the help in the diagnosis of subarachnoid hemorrhage, CNS malignancies, demyelinating diseases, and the Guillain-Barré syndrome. Although there are no absolute contraindications to performing the procedure, caution should be used in patients with possible raised intracranial pressure, thrombocytopenia or other bleeding diathesis, and spinal epidural abscess.

Emergent ? The number of definite indications for LP have decreased with the advent of better neuroimaging procedures including CT scans and MRI, but emergent LP is still indicated to diagnose two serious conditions [2,3]:

Suspected CNS infection (with the exception of brain abscess or a parameningeal process).
Suspected subarachnoid hemorrhage in a patient with a negative CT scan [4]. Since red blood cells in the CSF can reflect a traumatic tap, an important finding in this setting is xanthochromia (pink or yellow tint), which represents hemoglobin degradation products and indicates that blood has been in the CSF for at least two hours;

The most common use of the LP is to diagnose or exclude meningitis in patients presenting with some combination of fever, altered mental status, headache, and/or meningeal signs. Examination of the CSF has a high sensitivity and specificity for determining the presence of bacterial and fungal meningitis.

Nonemergent ? Nonemergent LP is indicated in the diagnosis of the following conditions. The findings are discussed in the appropriate topic reviews:

Pseudotumor cerebri
Carcinomatous meningitis
Tuberculous meningitis
Normal pressure hydrocephalus
CNS syphilis
CNS vasculitis
Conditions in which LP is rarely diagnostic but still useful include:

Multiple sclerosis
Guillain-Barré syndrome

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

And I've never heard nor read anything about that in any scientific circles/publications....

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

And I've never heard nor read anything about that in any scientific circles/publications....

I've had a friend with a potential aneurysm and watched him get tapped at a world class medical facility specifically for that. So read all you want, blood in the spinal fluid is a often an indicator of an aneurysm.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

And I've never heard nor read anything about that in any scientific circles/publications....

Well Me > You.

Google it. Recent studies indicate Magnesium plays a role in many cases.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

And I've never heard nor read anything about that in any scientific circles/publications....

I've had a friend with a potential aneurysm and watched him get tapped at a world class medical facility specifically for that. So read all you want, blood in the spinal fluid is a clear indicator of an aneurysm.

Read what I posted 2 posts above....that whole long thing...

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

And I've never heard nor read anything about that in any scientific circles/publications....

I've had a friend with a potential aneurysm and watched him get tapped at a world class medical facility specifically for that. So read all you want, blood in the spinal fluid is a clear indicator of an aneurysm.

Read what I posted 2 posts above....that whole long thing...

Uh. No. You = cut and paste. Me = Er visit with well know surgeon.

 

[Kung Lau]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
I used to get BAD headaches ALL the time.

It was MSG.

I started reading the labels on EVERYTHING I ate and they went away.

Of course NOW I can't see worth a damn anymore.

Why must they make that printing so damn small?

Edit: Good to hear nothing showed up.

Try changing your diet and see if that helps.

I have this same condition. I thought it was coincidence I got these vision distorting headaches after eating take out Chinese, but found out that it was the MSG. After only going to "NO MSG" places, these types of incapacitating headaches went away.

Do a search for MSG, it's scary how many people are affected by it and it's still on the market.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

And I've never heard nor read anything about that in any scientific circles/publications....

I've had a friend with a potential aneurysm and watched him get tapped at a world class medical facility specifically for that. So read all you want, blood in the spinal fluid is a clear indicator of an aneurysm.

Read what I posted 2 posts above....that whole long thing...

Uh. No.

Ok fine dont read it.....and yea I see that article google has...and it's one small study. Albeit with nice results but when I search my medical and nursing based literature I cant find much of anything on it. Well I find that research study that google keeps popping up. And the LP detecting aneurysm yea if it's an aneurysm that turns into a subarachnoid hemorrhage.

And yea I'm cutting and pasting from medical literature, big deal, and guess what I also work at a inner city trauma teaching hospital, I do have some idea of what I'm talking about here.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

And I've never heard nor read anything about that in any scientific circles/publications....

I've had a friend with a potential aneurysm and watched him get tapped at a world class medical facility specifically for that. So read all you want, blood in the spinal fluid is a clear indicator of an aneurysm.

Read what I posted 2 posts above....that whole long thing...

Uh. No.

Ok fine dont read it.....and yea I see that article google has...and it's one small study. Albeit with nice results but when I search my medical and nursing based literature I cant find much of anything on it. Well I find that research study that google keeps popping up. And the LP detecting aneurysm yea if it's an aneurysm that turns into a subarachnoid hemorrhage.

And yea I'm cutting and pasting from medical literature, big deal, and guess what I also work at a inner city trauma teaching hospital, I do have some idea of what I'm talking about here.

Well then you sound like a nice chap. Too much BS here on OT. I just know what I've seen and call it as such. Perhaps the doctor was cautious, I do not know. But the magnesium thing I do know, for it helped a close friend.

 

[randym431]

CAT scan, spinal tap, blood drawn

I thought this post was about three rock groups.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

And I've never heard nor read anything about that in any scientific circles/publications....

I've had a friend with a potential aneurysm and watched him get tapped at a world class medical facility specifically for that. So read all you want, blood in the spinal fluid is a clear indicator of an aneurysm.

Read what I posted 2 posts above....that whole long thing...

Uh. No.

Ok fine dont read it.....and yea I see that article google has...and it's one small study. Albeit with nice results but when I search my medical and nursing based literature I cant find much of anything on it. Well I find that research study that google keeps popping up. And the LP detecting aneurysm yea if it's an aneurysm that turns into a subarachnoid hemorrhage.

And yea I'm cutting and pasting from medical literature, big deal, and guess what I also work at a inner city trauma teaching hospital, I do have some idea of what I'm talking about here.

Well then you sound like a nice chap. Too much BS here on OT. I just know what I've seen and call it as such. Perhaps the doctor was cautious, I do not know. But the magnesium thing I do know, for it helped a close friend.

I understand where you are coming from but it's not a treatment we would normally use or consider for migraine pain. Just be cautious because high levels of magnesium even orally can lead to major medical issues.

As far as that doctor....who knows, in the case of an aneurysm a CT or MRI of the head would be more indicative of that problem than a LP. Basically because if that aneurysm has burst you are going to be in a world of trouble in a hurry. Perhaps the LP might show blood in the spinal fluid from the aneurysm leaking blood but again a CT/MRI of the head will be more diagnostic as to a condition such as that.

 

[cerebusPu]

you dont need to look for blood in a spinal tap to find an aneurysm. deathbua is right about that. the easiest and best way to find an aneurysm is still an angiogram. if you cant see it in an angiogram, than maybe you can look for blood in a spinal tap. but thats one of the last things we'd do if theres's nothing on the CT.

<-Im biased because i work in radiology

 

[Coquito]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
...Then came a spinal tap. I asked for alot of pain killers and drugs before they took fluid from my spine, so it didnt hurt much.

Tomorrow I leave for the weekend to go camping and white water rafting in PA. Hopefully Im not too sore.

I'm guessing the meds haven't worn off yet? A spinal tap has kept kept more then a couple members of my family totally bedridden for at least 1-2 days.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: randym431

CAT scan, spinal tap, blood drawn

I thought this post was about three rock groups.

LOL :laugh:

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: Coquito

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
...Then came a spinal tap. I asked for alot of pain killers and drugs before they took fluid from my spine, so it didnt hurt much.

Tomorrow I leave for the weekend to go camping and white water rafting in PA. Hopefully Im not too sore.

I'm guessing the meds haven't worn off yet? A spinal tap has kept kept more then a couple members of my family totally bedridden for at least 1-2 days.

well, it's friday morning, and Im walking around, took a shower, did laundry, packing for my trip. Except for a little soreness, i feel ok.

 

[Ika]

did your procedure go to 11?

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Many migranes are caused by magnesium deficiency, try taking high doses when you get them and see if it helps. If it does, take a reasonable daily dose.

And I've never heard nor read anything about that in any scientific circles/publications....

I've had a friend with a potential aneurysm and watched him get tapped at a world class medical facility specifically for that. So read all you want, blood in the spinal fluid is a clear indicator of an aneurysm.

Read what I posted 2 posts above....that whole long thing...

Uh. No.

Ok fine dont read it.....and yea I see that article google has...and it's one small study. Albeit with nice results but when I search my medical and nursing based literature I cant find much of anything on it. Well I find that research study that google keeps popping up. And the LP detecting aneurysm yea if it's an aneurysm that turns into a subarachnoid hemorrhage.

And yea I'm cutting and pasting from medical literature, big deal, and guess what I also work at a inner city trauma teaching hospital, I do have some idea of what I'm talking about here.

Well then you sound like a nice chap. Too much BS here on OT. I just know what I've seen and call it as such. Perhaps the doctor was cautious, I do not know. But the magnesium thing I do know, for it helped a close friend.

I understand where you are coming from but it's not a treatment we would normally use or consider for migraine pain. Just be cautious because high levels of magnesium even orally can lead to major medical issues.

As far as that doctor....who knows, in the case of an aneurysm a CT or MRI of the head would be more indicative of that problem than a LP. Basically because if that aneurysm has burst you are going to be in a world of trouble in a hurry. Perhaps the LP might show blood in the spinal fluid from the aneurysm leaking blood but again a CT/MRI of the head will be more diagnostic as to a condition such as that.

E-FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[aidanjm]

so why are you getting the headaches? could they be due to a sudden spike in blood pressure (i.e., your blood pressure going up quickly and dramatically). are you on any meds? do you use artificial sweeteners (aspartame)?