I had a dream Kamala won

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FelixDeCat

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And if you think the same Bangladeshi people are different here.. you're in for a rude awakening. Come have a look yourself at Jamaica New York.

They love their high density neighborhoods.

I lived for 6 years in Singapore.. that was like 8000 per square mile but somehow it didn't seem out of control.. maybe because the buildings were taller.
The whole "we can fit 8 billion" in Texas notion is such hooey. Sure, if don't mind people crawling all over each other with little drinking water and pollution so bad you dare not breath.

Remember how bad it was in Beijing? Kids going to school with tents connecting buildings because the air pollution was so bad.

Heck we even had pretty dirty air in DFW until the EPA started cracking down.
 
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amenx

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Extremely overpopulated.

They are rioting in Bangladesh because young people cannot get jobs and the unemployment rate for that group is over 10%. I've been following this story for a while. It's a scary eye opener for those concerned about overpopulation.😳

The population density in the US is 96 people per square mile.

In the extremely over crowded nation of Bangladesh it is 3,441 per mile!!!

We need population control. Now!
Eventually the idea will spread that their best chances are to go to Mexico and cross the border. By 2030 10% of all immigrants to US may be Bangladeshis. Would love to see the look on your face when waking up from a dream about that. :p
 
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sandorski

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Population change takes generations. Growth has been slowing, leaving some concerned over how to deal with future declines. For those with a post WWII Baby Boom generation a certain amount of decline is built in.

It is not so much that Earth can't sustain these numbers. It's more that Earth can't sustain these numbers and bring everyone up to a First World standard of living. Either we have fewer people or we get resources elsewhere. The latter is certainly something under R&D.
 
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nakedfrog

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The whole "we can fit 8 billion" in Texas notion is such hooey. Sure, if don't mind people crawling all over each other with little drinking water and pollution so bad you dare not breath.

Remember how bad it was in Beijing? Kids going to school with tents connecting buildings because the air pollution was so bad.

Heck we even had pretty dirty air in DFW until the EPA started cracking down.
I hope you're not too attached to the EPA and the idea of having clean air, with your voting habits and all.
 

Stokely

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"EPA cracking down" yeah.

My right-wing coworker (who of course "doesn't like Trump" then proceeds to go on rants that show otherwise) just loved the fact that Trump went to great effort to undo any environmental regulation put in by Obama. Or not put in by Obama, anything "environmental" was bad. Let capitalism decide! Sure, all these companies will be willing to lose money compared to their competition by disposing of waste in a non-polluting way....sure. It's fine I guess if we don't want clean air or water, hell as mentioned you can (or could, I haven't been in over 10 years) visit Beijing and get a nice lungful. They may not be pure capitalism but they definitely understand ignoring the environment to save money. The hotel we stayed in--4-star in the Olympic village-- had boxes of disposable footies in the room because you'd get soot from the carpet all over your feet.
 

Moonbeam

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I once had a dream that I was trapped in a room from which I could never escape except in the middle of this circular room was a huge rotating diamond the fascia from which there emanated rays of unknown kind that would, as the diamond turned pass and passed them through by body made me stronger with each pass. Breakout thus became a certainty.

Silly dream, of course. There is no such thing as a prison other than as a mental construct. Prisons are created by thought. But then I guess those rays of light might have been the light of truth pointing to something I was too dumb to understand.

But what a wonderful dream you had. Is she wins we will all have dodge a huge bullet and a massive sigh of relief will sweep the land.
 
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DaaQ

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Mayor Pete had a fantastic interview on Fox News, the host was unable to control the conversation. Quite amazing they didn't cut to commercial and end it before they did.
 

FelixDeCat

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Sooooooo im hearing that environmental regulations are a good thing?
I support the EPA. Access to clean air and clean water should be a human right. However since nothing is free in life, "clean" air and "clean" water will come at a price.

This cost could involve either reduced economic output, higher prices or some other sort of unforeseen circumstance involving the loss of individual freedoms such as Bar-B-Queing with a gas grill or not being able to roll coal on someone who is biking nearby. 😞
 

MrSquished

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I support the EPA. Access to clean air and clean water should be a human right. However since nothing is free in life, "clean" air and "clean" water will come at a price.

This cost could involve either reduced economic output, higher prices or some other sort of unforeseen circumstance involving the loss of individual freedoms such as Bar-B-Queing with a gas grill or not being able to roll coal on someone who is biking nearby. 😞
Except you don't actually support the EPA you just talk. But your action is that you vote for the Republican party which is trying to weaken it and has installed the supreme Court that has basically overturned a precedent which will specifically allow to EPA to be weakened into Oblivion. So again all your fake bullshit talk is just that, until you start voting against the Republican party, you are full of shit
 

nakedfrog

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I support the EPA. Access to clean air and clean water should be a human right. However since nothing is free in life, "clean" air and "clean" water will come at a price.

This cost could involve either reduced economic output, higher prices or some other sort of unforeseen circumstance involving the loss of individual freedoms such as Bar-B-Queing with a gas grill or not being able to roll coal on someone who is biking nearby. 😞
You just can't say anything without honking your little clown horn and flopping your big clownshoes around 🤡
 

FelixDeCat

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Except you don't actually support the EPA you just talk. But your action is that you vote for the Republican party which is trying to weaken it and has installed the supreme Court that has basically overturned a precedent which will specifically allow to EPA to be weakened into Oblivion. So again all your fake bullshit talk is just that, until you start voting against the Republican party, you are full of shit
Nonsense. We are the environmental party.
 
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nickqt

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Environmental Party for sure.

Use government to grant private corporations the ownership of the environment. Deregulate environmental laws so those private corporations can dig up the environment and burn it to create private profits. And then allow those private companies to dump the toxins back into the environment where the toxins are socialized for everyone else to be poisoned by.
 

dank69

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The whole "we can fit 8 billion" in Texas notion is such hooey. Sure, if don't mind people crawling all over each other with little drinking water and pollution so bad you dare not breath.

Remember how bad it was in Beijing? Kids going to school with tents connecting buildings because the air pollution was so bad.

Heck we even had pretty dirty air in DFW until the EPA started cracking down.
They wouldn't be crawling all over each other. It would be the same population density as New York. You could literally feed all of them just using the existing farmland in the US, and the entire rest of the world would be pristine and untouched.

As for the logistics, pollution would drop dramatically without people traveling all over the world and way fewer power plants because you only need to electrify the US. We could dump all the sewage into one big lake so Republicans could have a nice place to go swimming.
 

nakedfrog

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Nonsense. We are the environmental party.
Honk honk, Chuckles!

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Indus

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I think she is secretly campaigning for VP.

You've been watching the Manchurian Candidate too much!

Sergeant Cat
Sergeant Felix Cat
Felix De Cat!

Stop watching stuff that dumbs down your intelligence.
 

FelixDeCat

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You've been watching the Manchurian Candidate too much!

Sergeant Cat
Sergeant Felix Cat
Felix De Cat!

Stop watching stuff that dumbs down your intelligence.
I've never seen that. I only suggested she might want to be VP only because you brought her up. In fact, I probably would have said it no matter who you mentioned ...save and except DJT.
 

Moonbeam

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I've never seen that. I only suggested she might want to be VP only because you brought her up. In fact, I probably would have said it no matter who you mentioned ...save and except DJT.
Perhaps this poem by Shelley will help:

I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

Or this one by Shakespeare:

She should have died hereafter.
There would have been a time for such a word.
Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time.
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle.
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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Extremely overpopulated.

They are rioting in Bangladesh because young people cannot get jobs and the unemployment rate for that group is over 10%. I've been following this story for a while. It's a scary eye opener for those concerned about overpopulation.😳

The population density in the US is 96 people per square mile.

In Bangladesh the population density is 3,441 people per mile!

We need population control. Now!

You must be super scared now..

They forced the democratic elected Prime Minister to flee.