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I guess it would be best not to piss my professor off

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Originally posted by: Pacemaker

If I had to read 50 pages a week in textbook that talked about ontological empiricism and ethical theories, and still had 3-4 other classes work to do I would probably want to punch a wall. I mean it isn't 50 pages of a novel.

Are you inside my head? The course is....Morals and Reasoning.
 
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: tfinch2

😕 What a douche.

This semester I have a prof that had a 9 page syllabus with all of his rules and regulations, trying to make himself look like a hardass. Turns out he's a total joke.

9 pages of rules and regulations? Oh my.

One of my professors syllabus is 14 pages. Best class ever.
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: sixone
I don't know whether I'd drop that class, or take the bait. 😀

So what kind of "participation" did you have in mind? 😱

:shocked:

Apparently, he had in mind "active" and "daily" participation. I bet he loves going to his office hours.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

The ones in my classes where Christians, but my professor said many times that it's not a religion thing it was a not being willing to question your own beliefs thing. He said that in the past there had been people of almost every religion cause this problem. He even had one Chirstian drop his class over the "can god create a rock so big that even he could not lift it" arguement.

Philosophy is what it is, and you should not take it if that is going to offend you.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Pacemaker

If I had to read 50 pages a week in textbook that talked about ontological empiricism and ethical theories, and still had 3-4 other classes work to do I would probably want to punch a wall. I mean it isn't 50 pages of a novel.

Are you inside my head? The course is....Morals and Reasoning.

Well there are only three major fields of philosophy and I just picked one 🙂
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

Get the fvck out of my thread troll.
 
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

The ones in my classes where Christians, but my professor said many times that it's not a religion thing it was a not being willing to question your own beliefs thing. He said that in the past there had been people of almost every religion cause this problem. He even had one Chirstian drop his class over the "can god create a rock so big that even he could not lift it" arguement.

Philosophy is what it is, and you should not take it if that is going to offend you.

Wouldn't that be a simple no answer if you agree that the definition of "God" is "something in which nothing greater can be imagined."
 
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

The ones in my classes where Christians, but my professor said many times that it's not a religion thing it was a not being willing to question your own beliefs thing. He said that in the past there had been people of almost every religion cause this problem. He even had one Chirstian drop his class over the "can god create a rock so big that even he could not lift it" arguement.

Philosophy is what it is, and you should not take it if that is going to offend you.

Wouldn't that be a simple no answer if you agree that the definition of "God" is "something that which nothing greater can be imagined."

If you say no then there is something god cannot do. He cannot make a rock that he cannot lift. The problem is that the question is flawed. There is no correct answer to it. When you say that god is Omnipotent you are not saying that he can do anything, but that he can do anything logically possible. He cannot find the corner of a circle either (without changing the meanings of the words that is).
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

Get the fvck out of my thread troll.

excuse me? do you have any coherent objections to my comments, or just profanity?
 
I fvcking hate when people in lecture classes continually ask idiotic ill-formed questions or give examples from their personal lives which they somehow feel are related but just make them sound like retards. They deserve to have their grades dropped.

STFU and take notes. When the instructor says, "Any questions" ask one pertinent question and perhaps one followup, if necessary. But don't talk about what you think you remember hearing about the war in Iraq from some guy on Fox News, because you think it's relevant. It's not.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

Get the fvck out of my thread troll.

excuse me? do you have any coherent objections to my comments, or just profanity?

Just profanity. Get the fvck out, troll.

Google or wiki or urbandictionary "troll". We (the internet at large) hate you and your kind. Take pills and drown you douche.
 
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

The ones in my classes where Christians, but my professor said many times that it's not a religion thing it was a not being willing to question your own beliefs thing. He said that in the past there had been people of almost every religion cause this problem. He even had one Chirstian drop his class over the "can god create a rock so big that even he could not lift it" arguement.

Philosophy is what it is, and you should not take it if that is going to offend you.

Wouldn't that be a simple no answer if you agree that the definition of "God" is "something that which nothing greater can be imagined."

If you say no then there is something god cannot do. He cannot make a rock that he cannot lift. The problem is that the question is flawed. There is no correct answer to it. When you say that god is Omnipotent you are not saying that he can do anything, but that he can do anything logically possible. He cannot find the corner of a circle either (without changing the meanings of the words that is).

but if god created everything, that means he established the rules of physics and logic that our known universe appear to abide by, so why is it difficult for him to circumvent those rules?
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

The ones in my classes where Christians, but my professor said many times that it's not a religion thing it was a not being willing to question your own beliefs thing. He said that in the past there had been people of almost every religion cause this problem. He even had one Chirstian drop his class over the "can god create a rock so big that even he could not lift it" arguement.

Philosophy is what it is, and you should not take it if that is going to offend you.

Wouldn't that be a simple no answer if you agree that the definition of "God" is "something that which nothing greater can be imagined."

If you say no then there is something god cannot do. He cannot make a rock that he cannot lift. The problem is that the question is flawed. There is no correct answer to it. When you say that god is Omnipotent you are not saying that he can do anything, but that he can do anything logically possible. He cannot find the corner of a circle either (without changing the meanings of the words that is).

but if god created everything, that means he established the rules of physics and logic that our known universe appear to abide by, so why is it difficult for him to circumvent those rules?

something is or it is not based upon its rules. if one circumvents the rules for what something is then they have created/invented/done something new.

ie if a deity were to circumvent the rules of physics then it would not be doing anything related to physics since what it has done is something new.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

The ones in my classes where Christians, but my professor said many times that it's not a religion thing it was a not being willing to question your own beliefs thing. He said that in the past there had been people of almost every religion cause this problem. He even had one Chirstian drop his class over the "can god create a rock so big that even he could not lift it" arguement.

Philosophy is what it is, and you should not take it if that is going to offend you.

Wouldn't that be a simple no answer if you agree that the definition of "God" is "something that which nothing greater can be imagined."

If you say no then there is something god cannot do. He cannot make a rock that he cannot lift. The problem is that the question is flawed. There is no correct answer to it. When you say that god is Omnipotent you are not saying that he can do anything, but that he can do anything logically possible. He cannot find the corner of a circle either (without changing the meanings of the words that is).

but if god created everything, that means he established the rules of physics and logic that our known universe appear to abide by, so why is it difficult for him to circumvent those rules?

You could argue that (and you did). However, I did mention in my statement that he could find the corner of a circle if he changed the definition of the words, but barring that he cannot do it. Because of that you must either accept one of a few options. Either God doesn't exist, God is limited in what he can or cannot do, or he can do anything logically possible. I simply wrote the one that most allows God in the traditionally accepted definition, but the other options are just as plausible logically.
 
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

The ones in my classes where Christians, but my professor said many times that it's not a religion thing it was a not being willing to question your own beliefs thing. He said that in the past there had been people of almost every religion cause this problem. He even had one Chirstian drop his class over the "can god create a rock so big that even he could not lift it" arguement.

Philosophy is what it is, and you should not take it if that is going to offend you.

Wouldn't that be a simple no answer if you agree that the definition of "God" is "something that which nothing greater can be imagined."

If you say no then there is something god cannot do. He cannot make a rock that he cannot lift. The problem is that the question is flawed. There is no correct answer to it. When you say that god is Omnipotent you are not saying that he can do anything, but that he can do anything logically possible. He cannot find the corner of a circle either (without changing the meanings of the words that is).

but if god created everything, that means he established the rules of physics and logic that our known universe appear to abide by, so why is it difficult for him to circumvent those rules?

something is or it is not based upon its rules. if one circumvents the rules for what something is then they have created/invented/done something new.

it's not that hard to change the rules to, e.g., chess or monopoly as you are playing the game. for god, changing the rules of the universe should be just as easy.

Originally posted by: chambersc
ie if a deity were to circumvent the rules of physics then it would not be doing anything related to physics since what it has done is something new.

but what does that have to do with whether or not god can actually do it? when I say god is omnipotent, I am saying god can do anything and everything, including things that we might think are not logically possible.

 
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Every philosophy class I have ever taken was heavy in the class participation. Those who participated with thoughtful questions/comments made the class fun. Those who try to say "pastor bob said this so you are wrong." ruin the class. My professor would just ask if pastor bob had a PH.D. In Philosophy and a Masters in Religious studies, but even defusing it like that it was still a distraction.

so basically the religious fundamentalists ("christians", I would guess) ruined the class, because they see the world in black & white and aren't willing to be questioning or open-minded in a philosophy class

The ones in my classes where Christians, but my professor said many times that it's not a religion thing it was a not being willing to question your own beliefs thing. He said that in the past there had been people of almost every religion cause this problem. He even had one Chirstian drop his class over the "can god create a rock so big that even he could not lift it" arguement.

Philosophy is what it is, and you should not take it if that is going to offend you.

Wouldn't that be a simple no answer if you agree that the definition of "God" is "something that which nothing greater can be imagined."

If you say no then there is something god cannot do. He cannot make a rock that he cannot lift. The problem is that the question is flawed. There is no correct answer to it. When you say that god is Omnipotent you are not saying that he can do anything, but that he can do anything logically possible. He cannot find the corner of a circle either (without changing the meanings of the words that is).

but if god created everything, that means he established the rules of physics and logic that our known universe appear to abide by, so why is it difficult for him to circumvent those rules?

something is or it is not based upon its rules. if one circumvents the rules for what something is then they have created/invented/done something new.

ie if a deity were to circumvent the rules of physics then it would not be doing anything related to physics since what it has done is something new.

Wow ok this became a philosophy discussion thread at some point there 🙂
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm


Originally posted by: chambersc
ie if a deity were to circumvent the rules of physics then it would not be doing anything related to physics since what it has done is something new.

but what does that have to do with whether or not god can actually do it? when I say god is omnipotent, I am saying god can do anything and everything, including things that we might think are not logically possible.

If you believe that then you must answer the question of "Can God create a rock so big that he/she could not lift it?"

However, because both options limit the power of god you are stuck.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: chambersc
ie if a deity were to circumvent the rules of physics then it would not be doing anything related to physics since what it has done is something new.

but what does that have to do with whether or not god can actually do it? when I say god is omnipotent, I am saying god can do anything and everything, including things that we might think are not logically possible.

Well, that's a cop out. There is no such thing as pulling a "Deus Ex Machina" in a the real world.
 
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