I gotta say I am a little surprised at the open racism that exists in America

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mxyzptlk

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We can both agree that one little girl being shot in one korean store in no way justifies some sort of retaliation against all of the other korean stores in the city. however, the same logic also applies to Du and Harlins.. It doesn't really matter how many other people were stealing from their store. Harlins was not stealing the juice. She had not concealed the juice in her backpack, it was clearly visible even on the security tape. She died with the money in her hand to pay for the juice. She fought BACK only after she was assaulted first.



Originally posted by: Svnla
imagine a bunch of white guys pulled out a black driver and beat him to dead just because he was black .

LOL I don't know, that would require quite the stretch of the imagination.. I honestly cannot think of a situation where a bunch of white guys pull a black guy out of his car and beat him nearly to death. It's just such a fantastic scenario.. how did you even come up with that?!

As for OJ, well.. It opened my eyes to the fact that the system is not necessarily gamed against minorities, but against poor people in general. It doesn't matter what crime you've committed as long as you have the money. I'd say it was another failure of justice. One that will probably never even be fixed as long as money runs this country.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: OrByte
DO I get to call you out on cherrypicking those quotes?

McCain said those quotes only AFTER he changed his rhetoric and tone out on the campaign trail. Prior to that both he and Palin were openly questioning "WHO IS OBAMA?" and "HE doesnt see America the way WE see America" and "Palling around with terrorists"
etc etc etc. At which point, McCains less-than-the-average-intelligence followers picked up the baton and went running with claims that Obama is a terrorist, a muslim, and arab etc etc etc.

I hate to relive such recent events, but jeez how quickly people forget that it is the tone and the rhetoric from McCains camp that has fueled alot of the racial tension we see today. I am not saying that democrats have their hands clean...but I'm calling it as I see it.

And because of Powell's recent endorsement, a ton of the 'blessed' and 'devoted' GOP went through the roof with their race baiting. What do you think Rush was saying in his initial email to his dittoheads?? Its been non-stop race baiting since Powell endorsed Obama.

Also race bashing. Powell can't catch a break from his "former" followers. People are calling him all sorts of bad things, all because they believe he chose Obama because of Obama's race... You can't get away with lamblasting someone and then saying its him/her who is racists and not you when it is YOU who are seeing everything through a "racial lense."

Powell laid out his case as to why he supports Obama, none of which had to do with race. But it is HIS DETRACTORS that inserted race into the equation, and then proceeded to BASH and SMEAR him for it. Yeah....thats not racism :roll: Yeah thats not RACE BAITING :roll:

The claim of cherry-picking the quotes is certainly a valid objection. It's an intellectual response and, frankly, a valid one. It does not attempt to impugn my character and I'll gladly have it brought up. :beer:

McCain definitely allowed his less intelligent supporters to run with things that he should have condemned much, much, much sooner, and that's one of many reasons why McCain deserves to lose and why I will not vote for him. The backbone that he once had has disappeared entirely and he has shown that he will bend in any which way if he thinks it will get him an advantage. Still, I don't believe that he has actively encouraged the comments against Obama that are race-based. As I said, however, he did allow them to continue for far too long without denouncing them, which is, to my mind, just as bad.

As far as Ayers, well, Ayers certainly was a terrorist. While I think that, like the protagonist in "A Clockwork Orange", Ayers has mellowed with age to become largely innocuous, he remains someone whose friendship I would personally disdain. Saying that Obama is hanging out with a terrorist because he knows Ayers is definitely stretching the truth and I think it's ridiculous that the right has latched onto this like it has, but it's no more of a distortion than most campaigns are willing to employ. That certainly does not excuse it, but I'm not sure that it rises to the level of race-baiting. I think that most of the comments about "WHO IS OBAMA?" and "HE doesnt see America the way WE see America" were intended not as racial comments but as attempts to portray him as an ivory tower intellectual. Again, significant stretching of the truth, but not uncommon in a campaign.

As far as Rush's e-mail, I haven't seen it. That moronic gasbag holds no interest for me. I can only imagine what sort of closed-minded filth he's spewing.

Anyone claiming that Powell chose to endorse Obama only because of race is brain-dead. Hell, anyone claiming that race was any factor at all for Powell is brain-dead.

ZV
 

Svnla

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mxyzptlk - I am not saying the store owner was absolutely right to shoot that girl. You weren't there, I weren't there, no one was there but the girl, the owner, and her hubby.
We don't know what the owner felt at that particular moment. Like the article said, that store and most of the stores were repeatly burgalized and shoplifted. It wasn't like that incident <shoplifting or alllegely> just happended for the first time ever.

The point I was trying to make with the white guys pulled the black driver and beat him was we all know why Danny <the truck driver> got pulled out and beat up <because he was white>. How the black community feels if the table was turned?

I live in the US for the last 20 plus years and I don't remember any riots by whites/whites specifically targeted blacks.... just because they didn't like a court verdict or things didn't go their way. But I saw with my own eyes with blacks created riots when they didn't like something. I understand that they have reasons/causes but we live in a civil society, you can't just riot and burn things just because you felt repressed.

Here is one..in a city near by, long before the Rodney King riot. Do you see a pattern here?

http://shreveporttimes.com/app...03/809200309/1002/NEWS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C..._Shreveport,_Louisiana

 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Here it is again in case you missed it. The racism by the other side is going to HELP Obama more than it will hurt him.


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Unless you are only outraged when white people are racist?

I'm not sure if that's true... every racist is going to vote against him even if they would have voted Democrat (although most happen to be Republicans).

I think we also need to remember that the people voting against him for race are less likely to admit to it. This skews the gallup poll.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: andy04
Which major political party picked their presidential candidate in 2008 based on skin color?

A Dem
B Rep
C Both
D None

A more apt question would be, why can't people like Andy accept a black man as President

That's not a more apt question. In fact, it's totally irrelevant. We all know damn well that if Obama wasn't black, we wouldn't even know who the hell he is. That doesn't mean we can't accept a black president. Personally, I have no problem with it and am even a little excited at the prospect. But irrational emotions aside, the truth is, the answer is A.
whats your basis for this conclusion? How is it any different than Edwards?

What's the basis for the OP's conclusion? Jack. You idiots take a vocal minority and paint an entire demographic with the brush. If you guys can jump to conclusions, why can't I?
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: andy04
Which major political party picked their presidential candidate in 2008 based on skin color?

A Dem
B Rep
C Both
D None

A more apt question would be, why can't people like Andy accept a black man as President

That's not a more apt question. In fact, it's totally irrelevant. We all know damn well that if Obama wasn't black, we wouldn't even know who the hell he is. That doesn't mean we can't accept a black president. Personally, I have no problem with it and am even a little excited at the prospect. But irrational emotions aside, the truth is, the answer is A.

It's only ignorant pricks like you who believe that, sorry.

Ahh... more irrational emotion, this time coupled with baseless personal attacks! Did you even read the rest? Of course not.

Maybe you should get your sister or wife to interpret posts for you. ;)

Go cry to the mods then.

You make a racist statement, then try to backpeddle out of it.

You made a statement, I called you out on it, just as I call out all the racist cowards on here.

You're still a prick and still racist, any other character flaws you wish to expose to the world?

You ignorant little twat, it's not a racist statement. In fact, I'm done with you until you go look it up and learn what it means. Here's a newsflash, Scooter: just because someone makes an observation about an individual's race doesn't mean it's a racist comment in the everyday connotation of the word.

Grow up and start thinking like a rational man, you little twerp.
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: andy04
Which major political party picked their presidential candidate in 2008 based on skin color?

A Dem
B Rep
C Both
D None

A more apt question would be, why can't people like Andy accept a black man as President

That's not a more apt question. In fact, it's totally irrelevant. We all know damn well that if Obama wasn't black, we wouldn't even know who the hell he is. That doesn't mean we can't accept a black president. Personally, I have no problem with it and am even a little excited at the prospect. But irrational emotions aside, the truth is, the answer is A.

It's only ignorant pricks like you who believe that, sorry.

Ahh... more irrational emotion, this time coupled with baseless personal attacks! Did you even read the rest? Of course not.

Maybe you should get your sister or wife to interpret posts for you. ;)

Go cry to the mods then.

You make a racist statement, then try to backpeddle out of it.

You made a statement, I called you out on it, just as I call out all the racist cowards on here.

You're still a prick and still racist, any other character flaws you wish to expose to the world?

You ignorant little twat, it's not a racist statement. In fact, I'm done with you until you go look it up and learn what it means. Here's a newsflash, Scooter: just because someone makes an observation about an individual's race doesn't mean it's a racist comment in the everyday connotation of the word.

Grow up and start thinking like a rational man, you little twerp.

You're such a racist for saying that!

:roll:
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: andy04
Which major political party picked their presidential candidate in 2008 based on skin color?

A Dem
B Rep
C Both
D None

A more apt question would be, why can't people like Andy accept a black man as President

That's not a more apt question. In fact, it's totally irrelevant. We all know damn well that if Obama wasn't black, we wouldn't even know who the hell he is. That doesn't mean we can't accept a black president. Personally, I have no problem with it and am even a little excited at the prospect. But irrational emotions aside, the truth is, the answer is A.

It's only ignorant pricks like you who believe that, sorry.

Ahh... more irrational emotion, this time coupled with baseless personal attacks! Did you even read the rest? Of course not.

Maybe you should get your sister or wife to interpret posts for you. ;)

Go cry to the mods then.

You make a racist statement, then try to backpeddle out of it.

You made a statement, I called you out on it, just as I call out all the racist cowards on here.

You're still a prick and still racist, any other character flaws you wish to expose to the world?

You ignorant little twat, it's not a racist statement. In fact, I'm done with you until you go look it up and learn what it means. Here's a newsflash, Scooter: just because someone makes an observation about an individual's race doesn't mean it's a racist comment in the everyday connotation of the word.

Grow up and start thinking like a rational man, you little twerp.

You're such a racist for saying that!

:roll:

... or sexist?

Who knows :)