i got road raged by a woman this morning

[Oyeve]

Who the fuck drives a Corvette anymore?

 

[iGas]

Does it matter?

Even the cops say, regardless of what drivers are doing, left-lane traffic must yield to faster traffic to the rear.
It is NOT the citizen's duty to police the roads. Do not hold up traffic just because you want to pass someone going 60mph in the right lane, by then going 65mph in the left lane, when the speed limit is 70mph. You will piss people off like no other, could cause an accident depending on what others were doing in the first place, and open up the door to the possibility of a road rage-r causing serious havoc.

I'm not disagree with you, but it seems as if 02ranger come from a state that have weak left lane passing law.

Left-Lane Passing Laws: A State-By-State Map

 

[02ranger]

Does it matter?

Even the cops say, regardless of what drivers are doing, left-lane traffic must yield to faster traffic to the rear.
It is NOT the citizen's duty to police the roads. Do not hold up traffic just because you want to pass someone going 60mph in the right lane, by then going 65mph in the left lane, when the speed limit is 70mph. You will piss people off like no other, could cause an accident depending on what others were doing in the first place, and open up the door to the possibility of a road rage-r causing serious havoc.

I defintely agree if the speed limit is 70 then you should be driving 70 in the left lane. Really you should drive 70 in the right lane as well. I just always understood the law as the right lane is for traffic that may have to go under the speed limit, whereas the left lane is for the speed limit at most. You definitely shouldn't hold up traffic in the left because you want to drive slower, and you most certainly shouldn't get pissed that people pass you in either lane if you're driving slower than the speed limit. The part I was talking about is the idea that it's ok to drive faster than the speed limit in the left lane. That doesn't seem right to me, otherwise the speed limit is pointless.

Edit: iGas is right. We don't have very clear laws in NC regarding the left lane passing rules, AFAIK. I don't even remember it ever being discussed in Driver's Ed. Everything I "know" about the left lane comes from me applying a little common sense and logic to what I know of other traffic laws, although common sense, logic, and the Law don't always go hand in hand......

Edit2: iGas' map seems to support my interpretation. It doesn't say left lane for faster than speed limit, it just says you have to get out of the left lane if moving slower than normal traffic, at least for most of the states with left-lane laws.

 

[M0RPH]

Admit it, OP, you were scared of a woman.

 

[destrekor]

I defintely agree if the speed limit is 70 then you should be driving 70 in the left lane. Really you should drive 70 in the right lane as well. I just always understood the law as the right lane is for traffic that may have to go under the speed limit, whereas the left lane is for the speed limit maximum. You definitely shouldn't hold up traffic in the left because you want to drive slower, and you most certainly shouldn't get pissed that people pass you in either lane if you're driving slower than the speed limit. The part I was talking about is the idea that it's ok to drive faster than the speed limit in the left lane. That doesn't seem right to me, otherwise the speed limit is pointless.

Edit: iGas is right. We don't have very clear laws in NC regarding the left lane passing rules, AFAIK. I don't even remember it ever being discussed in Driver's Ed. Everything I "know" about the left lane comes from me applying a little common sense and logic to what know of other traffic laws, although common sense, logic, and the Law don't always go hand in hand......

Edit2: iGas' map seems to support my interpretation. It doesn't say left lane for faster than speed limit, it just says you have to get out of the left lane if moving slower than normal traffic, at least for most of the states with left-lane laws.

Left lane is stupid simple, everywhere. People just don't want to apply any brain matter to it.

It has NOTHING to do with speed limit. Get that out of your head. The numbers don't matter. Period. Full stop. End of story.

The left lane is for passing traffic in the right lane. On multi-lane roads, the far right is slowest, middle lanes are increasingly faster, essentially. Left lane should still be passing only, no traveling. On two-lane roads, it is often easier and sometimes necessary to stay in the left lane - which is okay, so long as nobody behind you has expressed intent and desire to pass you because they are/were traveling faster.

If traveling above the speed limit feels morally wrong to you, that's okay, nobody demands you do it.
What people do demand though, is that you don't imply that you following the speed limit is of a higher priority of more than a few other drivers who wish to travel faster.
Which is to say, if traffic has already demonstrated that they WILL be passing you shortly, don't choose that moment to hop into the left lane to pass someone ahead of you if that means you will force a string of other cars to hit their brakes and/or otherwise slow down. Maybe that means you have to slow down briefly to not block them but not hit the driver in front of you. I've done that same thing (slow down so others can continue to pass before I make my pass). Now, if you're already in the left lane making a pass, try and do so as quickly as possible.

It's about respecting the majority, and respecting the intent and rules of the road. Speed doesn't matter - the flow of traffic matters.
And trying to ensure everyone continues to only pass on the left. On multi-lane, it gets easier to weave, but it's still wrong. More efficient when the road is filled with drivers who are doing everything wrong? Yep. But not safe and sets a terrible precedent. I cringe every time I see a biker weave - so many blind spots.


edit:
I live in Ohio, which above appears to be in the "weak or no rule" category. But it's definitely in the driver's manual. It was definitely taught to me at driver's ed. It may not be a legally-enforceable law, but it is the rule of the road as defined by the folks who collect and codify all the rules of the road.
Serious offenses probably wouldn't be ticketed, but it could result in getting a warning, if not charged with a more generic impeding traffic or something.

Given the number of times I've been driven completely mad on the highways of Ohio and Michigan (Michigan is a little better since MOST people drive 80+ in their 70mph zones - but I've been equally as frustrated there), I think I'd like to see clearer and stricter guidance on the usage of left lanes on limited access highways (if not all state and interstate highways).

 

[02ranger]

Left lane is stupid simple, everywhere. People just don't want to apply any brain matter to it.

It has NOTHING to do with speed limit. Get that out of your head. The numbers don't matter. Period. Full stop. End of story.

The left lane is for passing traffic in the right lane. On multi-lane roads, the far right is slowest, middle lanes are increasingly faster, essentially. Left lane should still be passing only, no traveling. On two-lane roads, it is often easier and sometimes necessary to stay in the left lane - which is okay, so long as nobody behind you has expressed intent and desire to pass you because they are/were traveling faster.

If traveling above the speed limit feels morally wrong to you, that's okay, nobody demands you do it.
What people do demand though, is that you don't imply that you following the speed limit is of a higher priority of more than a few other drivers who wish to travel faster.
Which is to say, if traffic has already demonstrated that they WILL be passing you shortly, don't choose that moment to hop into the left lane to pass someone ahead of you if that means you will force a string of other cars to hit their brakes and/or otherwise slow down. Maybe that means you have to slow down briefly to not block them but not hit the driver in front of you. I've done that same thing (slow down so others can continue to pass before I make my pass). Now, if you're already in the left lane making a pass, try and do so as quickly as possible.

It's about respecting the majority, and respecting the intent and rules of the road. Speed doesn't matter - the flow of traffic matters.
And trying to ensure everyone continues to only pass on the left. On multi-lane, it gets easier to weave, but it's still wrong. More efficient when the road is filled with drivers who are doing everything wrong? Yep. But not safe and sets a terrible precedent. I cringe every time I see a biker weave - so many blind spots.


edit:
I live in Ohio, which above appears to be in the "weak or no rule" category. But it's definitely in the driver's manual. It was definitely taught to me at driver's ed. It may not be a legally-enforceable law, but it is the rule of the road as defined by the folks who collect and codify all the rules of the road.
Serious offenses probably wouldn't be ticketed, but it could result in getting a warning, if not charged with a more generic impeding traffic or something.

Given the number of times I've been driven completely mad on the highways of Ohio and Michigan (Michigan is a little better since MOST people drive 80+ in their 70mph zones - but I've been equally as frustrated there), I think I'd like to see clearer and stricter guidance on the usage of left lanes on limited access highways (if not all state and interstate highways).

See, that's the part I have a problem with when it comes to this law. It doesn't seem to follow either common sense or the rest of the laws of the road. I'm not saying you're wrong, you seem to know what you're talking about, but it isn't a conclusion one would logically reach. If there is a speed limit, that is logically the LIMIT to how fast you can go. If I can get a ticket for going faster than the posted speed limit, then it follows that I should drive no faster than that limit, regardless of what the rest of the people on the road are doing. If you want to go faster than me and I'm doing the speed limit, tough. Go around. I should not block traffic by riding in the left lane going slower than the posted speed limit, but if I'm doing the speed limit and everybody else wants to go faster, thereby breaking the law, why do I have to move?

Again, I'm not saying you're wrong, this is just how I've always looked at it and it's why the idea of the passing lane moving faster doesn't make sense to me. If it's perfectly legal for traffic to move faster than the posted limit, then wouldn't that open a whole other can of worms when it comes to speeding tickets?

Enforcing this in my mind was the one and only ticket I've ever gotten. I was on a four lane highway, in the second lane counting from the inside, about 2 miles from my exit. There was an 18-wheeler ahead of me and bumper to bumper traffic to my right. All of a sudden there's a sign that says left two lanes end ahead due to construction. No distance was given until the lane ended. The first lane, closest to the median, was nearly empty at the time and I knew I needed to get to the far right lane, which was inaccessible. I could see gaps in the traffic ahead of the tractor trailer to the right, so I moved into the left-most lane and sped up to pass the tractor trailer. When I passed under a bridge I passed a cop and he followed me to my exit and gave me a ticket for speeding when passing the tractor trailer. According to your interpretation of the law, I should have been in the right, right?

 

[destrekor]

Who the fuck drives a Corvette anymore?

?

The C7 is hot. And actually can be classified as a car now featuring Handling.

 

[destrekor]

See, that's the part I have a problem with when it comes to this law. It doesn't seem to follow either common sense or the rest of the laws of the road. I'm not saying you're wrong, you seem to know what you're talking about, but it isn't a conclusion one would logically reach. If there is a speed limit, that is logically the LIMIT to how fast you can go. If I can get a ticket for going faster than the posted speed limit, then it follows that I should drive no faster than that limit, regardless of what the rest of the people on the road are doing. If you want to go faster than me and I'm doing the speed limit, tough. Go around. I should not block traffic by riding in the left lane going slower than the posted speed limit, but if I'm doing the speed limit and everybody else wants to go faster, thereby breaking the law, why do I have to move?

Again, I'm not saying you're wrong, this is just how I've always looked at it and it's why the idea of the passing lane moving faster doesn't make sense to me. If it's perfectly legal for traffic to move faster than the posted limit, then wouldn't that open a whole other can of worms when it comes to speeding tickets?

Enforcing this in my mind was the one and only ticket I've ever gotten. I was on a four lane highway, in the second lane counting from the inside, about 2 miles from my exit. There was an 18-wheeler ahead of me and bumper to bumper traffic to my right. All of a sudden there's a sign that says left two lanes end ahead due to construction. No distance was given until the lane ended. The first lane, closest to the median, was nearly empty at the time and I knew I needed to get to the far right lane, which was inaccessible. I could see gaps in the traffic ahead of the tractor trailer to the right, so I moved into the left-most lane and sped up to pass the tractor trailer. When I passed under a bridge I passed a cop and he followed me to my exit and gave me a ticket for speeding when passing the tractor trailer. According to your interpretation of the law, I should have been in the right, right?

You look at it like Spock. That is not good. Have some color to your logic.


Regarding the first bold: because you are not the police, and it is not your job to police. In fact, most police everywhere say do not attempt to enforce laws yourself. If anything, move out of the way, and inform the police if you so care to do so.

Regarding the second bold: no, because not once has it been claimed that speeding is legal. It's not, and has never been. There is TYPICALLY a grace zone, where most police are likely to look the other way if you are going perhaps up to 5 or 9mph over the limit - we've mostly accepted that as a society.
But speeders are always at risk - they know this. Sometimes they might try and wiggle out of trouble/fines, because that's in human nature, but generally, from the moment they pushed down on the accelerator, they accepted the risk.

The whole go-around thing: that's just the thing. That's what they want to do - but if you are blocking the left lane, that either means they have to pass on the right (sometimes illegal, sometimes frowned upon as a part of the rules of the road but not law) or cannot pass at all.

Most police want the road safe, and keeping drivers apart from each other, calm, and traffic flowing properly (only passing on left, no need to randomly hit brakes, etc) are some of the biggest factors in a safe roadway. Keeping groups of cars around the same speed is also a large factor in roadway safety. Yes, by definition, the state police want to enforce specific speed limits - but, above all else, they want a safe roadway. That's why, in certain conditions, a cop can actually give you a ticket for going the speed limit or under - that would be going too fast for the conditions. In blizzard white out conditions with much snow already on the ground, I have a feeling cops in Ohio would pull you over for going 70 in a 70 zone. There is the law, as defined by a book - and there are laws as enforced by humans, for humans. Sometimes it seems they are only out to get you, sometimes it seems like it's more about them caring for the greater majority at large. 😉
Standing out, however, is the surefire way to get a cop's attention. If traffic all around is flowing at 80 when the limit is 70, cops around here probably aren't going to do much (most everyone brakes down to 70 or lower if they see one anyway). If everyone is going 70 but one person is going 80, that's basically a guaranteed ticket.

 

[rasczak]

i don't have radar built into my fingers. i assumed 45, could be less. there was no danger of her hitting me. its not like it was a straight shot anyway, there was another car already in front. the beast just flipped and tried to kill me, that is all i know.

This right here is where YOU went wrong. you assumed therefore you went. never assume anything.

 

[02ranger]

You look at it like Spock. That is not good. Have some color to your logic.


Regarding the first bold: because you are not the police, and it is not your job to police. In fact, most police everywhere say do not attempt to enforce laws yourself. If anything, move out of the way, and inform the police if you so care to do so.

I'm not talking about enforcing laws myself though, I'm talking about following the law myself. I don't want to pull anybody over for going over the speed limit, I'm just saying that it seems counter-intuitive to have one set of laws that are posed to drivers as being absolutes, but saying it's ok to break said law when you feel like it.

Regarding the second bold: no, because not once has it been claimed that speeding is legal. It's not, and has never been. There is TYPICALLY a grace zone, where most police are likely to look the other way if you are going perhaps up to 5 or 9mph over the limit - we've mostly accepted that as a society.
But speeders are always at risk - they know this. Sometimes they might try and wiggle out of trouble/fines, because that's in human nature, but generally, from the moment they pushed down on the accelerator, they accepted the risk.

This part right here is what I've been trying to say, but maybe haven't said it well. It is a generally accepted practice, but it isn't actually LEGAL. Legally you are still supposed to adhere to the speed limit. I know there's a grace zone and MOST cops won't write a ticket for a few miles over the limit, but it still isn't legal. That's what I was getting at with my first post. Most people seem to think that not only is it OK to drive faster than the speed limit in the left lane, but that it's required. That isn't true though, it is merely acceptable to most people. Now obviously if everybody on the road is driving 85 and the limit is 75, if you drive 75 you're going to get run over so it's SAFER to drive a little faster to keep up with traffic, but still technically not legal. I totally get that, but I get tired of seeing people get mad when somebody is driving the speed limit in the left lane when they are not only well within their rights, but also the law. I'm also aware there is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law, but in the case of the "passing lane" I don't really believe there's a distinction. That's a case where the letter of the law is perfectly fine.

 

[jagec]

I'm not talking about enforcing laws myself though, I'm talking about following the law myself. I don't want to pull anybody over for going over the speed limit, I'm just saying that it seems counter-intuitive to have one set of laws that are posed to drivers as being absolutes, but saying it's ok to break said law when you feel like it.

There are two laws here. (1)Don't go above the limit, and (2)Don't block faster traffic.

Just because someone is breaking (1) doesn't mean that you automatically get the right to break (2). So yes, your person who is driving the limit in the left lane IS breaking the law if someone comes up behind them and they don't move over.

The real problem is that speed limits are deliberately set lower than the average speed of traffic. That creates a safety risk when the "spirit of the law" and the "letter of the law" people are both driving on the same roads.

 

[brianmanahan]

Look, the homely, horny, loser-dwarf thinks his cliche copypasta makes him clever and incisive.

Instead, as always, he just came up short-y. :biggrin:

thats mean 🙁

 

[brianmanahan]

left lane passing laws are idiot. i am glad that ohio doesnt have any of them.

 

[brianmanahan]

regardless of what drivers are doing, left-lane traffic must yield to faster traffic to the rear

thankfully in ohio you dont!

 

[destrekor]

thankfully in ohio you dont!

Are you one of those left-lane-hogging assholes that seem to overpopulate this great state?

 

[SparkyJJO]

People who cruise in the left lane (slowly) annoy me, on the interstate. I seem to be seeing it more and more often lately. Even if you're at the speed limit you really shouldn't be in the left for miles at a time (unless traffic is heavy, at that point you're just packing the cars in).

In town, even if there are 2 lanes each direction, I have no problem with people staying in the left lane for a while since there are a lot of left turns. The "left only to pass" doesn't really apply in town because of this. Can be a bad idea to wait until the very last moment to move to the left for your left turn as you'll inevitably end up missing your turn or cutting someone off to make your turn. Better to get over a little early so you're not risking either (as long as you don't do what the OP did).

I also will not speed up if I'm in the left lane, doing the speed limit, passing some slowpoke in the right lane, just because Mr Nascar behind me wants to drive 90. It won't kill him to wait a few seconds while I pass and then move back to the right. I'm NOT going to break the law and risk a ticket from a cop up ahead just because someone else wants to

 

[SandEagle]

thats mean 🙁

boy, that sure is. i can't even bring up the nerve to call anyone a dog even. *sigh* what example does this set at the lower level when the authorities let loose their emotions in such wild, uncontrollable ways? hold me, i'm scared. :'(

 

[brianmanahan]

Are you one of those left-lane-hogging a**holes that seem to overpopulate this great state?

well, i drive in the left lane if a merge from the right is coming up

or if someone is going to be turning right soon

or if someone is going slower than me in the right lane

or if the left lane is in better shape than the right lane (during construction, etc)

and in 3+ lane roads, i always stay in the middle the entire time

 

[Pray To Jesus]

You know what annoys me? People who doesn't signal when other drivers need to know that information.

Idiots that turn into street when I'm barreling down on them, making me brake so that I won't slam their side.

Idiots that speed up when I'm signalling so I can't change lanes.

And Box Blockers. Fuckers.

 

[02ranger]

I also will not speed up if I'm in the left lane, doing the speed limit, passing some slowpoke in the right lane, just because Mr Nascar behind me wants to drive 90. It won't kill him to wait a few seconds while I pass and then move back to the right. I'm NOT going to break the law and risk a ticket from a cop up ahead just because someone else wants to

I'm with you there. lol I know I should move over, but if the guy is driving like an asshole I take some perverse pleasure in making him wait. lol

You know what annoys me? People who doesn't signal when other drivers need to know that information.

Idiots that turn into street when I'm barreling down on them, making me brake so that I won't slam their side.

Idiots that speed up when I'm signalling so I can't change lanes.

And Box Blockers. Fuckers.

The first two irritate the crap out of me too. Is it so hard to flick the turn signal on!? And if I have to slow down because you turned onto the road, you shouldn't have turned. Simple as that. (Unless I'm speeding, then you weren't necessarily wrong, just unsafe)

 

[alkemyst]

I'm with you there. lol I know I should move over, but if the guy is driving like an asshole I take some perverse pleasure in making him wait. lol






The first two irritate the crap out of me too. Is it so hard to flick the turn signal on!? And if I have to slow down because you turned onto the road, you shouldn't have turned. Simple as that. (Unless I'm speeding, then you weren't necessarily wrong, just unsafe)

you are a major part of the problem.

 

[Meghan54]

I get tired of seeing people get mad when somebody is driving the speed limit in the left lane when they are not only well within their rights, but also the law. I'm also aware there is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law, but in the case of the "passing lane" I don't really believe there's a distinction. That's a case where the letter of the law is perfectly fine.

Have you ever seen a sign that looked like this:

That sign means move to the right if traffic behind you is trying to move faster. It does NOT mean if you're doing slower than the speed limit move right.

And why are signs like that posted? Because there's a concept called the flow of traffic. Cops even acknowledge this....because they don't ticket everyone driving faster than the posted speed limit (and I'm referring to interstate driving, not residential surface streets.)

Cops get it that posted speed limits on interstates are really artificially low, esp. given how safe the cars today are built and the limited access of the interstate and how safe those roads are generally built.

So law enforcement, for the most part, lets traffic set the "speed limit" and in most instances, traffic settles on a sane speed. For instance, the loop around Atlanta has an average speed limit of 55, yet the flow of traffic is generally 15-20 mph faster and the traffic flows pretty well---until rush hour, at least. And the cops don't ticket for 70---if they tried that, they'd be ticketing darned near everyone.

Granted, there are the go-fast kids that insist on doing 90 everywhere, but those are the ones the cops pull over.

And it's also true there are some places that heavily enforce the speed limit....the I-95 corridor through Maryland/DC/No VA comes to mind. I've driven that corridor more times than I care to count over the last 40 years and I will not go faster than what others do.....the cops are speed Nazis and doing anything faster than 5mph over invites a ticket.

But, by and large, cops let traffic set the flow, and the vast majority of drivers settle into a decently moving speed.....which is generally faster than the posted limits. And, contrary to some thinking, raising speed limits and/or driving faster than the posted limits on the interstate is not more dangerous. You have to remember, these 55mph interstate roads of today used to be 70mph roadways 40 years ago and were decreased in the interest of "saving gas".

Add to that the fact that as posted speed limits have risen, the death rate per million miles traveled has decreased.

So, what to do just the speed limit? Get out of the left lane and let the sensible drivers go with the flow of traffic.

 

[02ranger]

you are a major part of the problem.

Which part of what I said are you referring to? I will say that I don't do the whole slow to the speed limit thing all the time, just if the person is being a HUGE asshole in how they're driving. I'm not saying its necessarily right, which is why i said its a perverse pleasure.....

Have you ever seen a sign that looked like this:

That sign means move to the right if traffic behind you is trying to move faster. It does NOT mean if you're doing slower than the speed limit move right.

And why are signs like that posted? Because there's a concept called the flow of traffic. Cops even acknowledge this....because they don't ticket everyone driving faster than the posted speed limit (and I'm referring to interstate driving, not residential surface streets.)

Cops get it that posted speed limits on interstates are really artificially low, esp. given how safe the cars today are built and the limited access of the interstate and how safe those roads are generally built.

So law enforcement, for the most part, lets traffic set the "speed limit" and in most instances, traffic settles on a sane speed. For instance, the loop around Atlanta has an average speed limit of 55, yet the flow of traffic is generally 15-20 mph faster and the traffic flows pretty well---until rush hour, at least. And the cops don't ticket for 70---if they tried that, they'd be ticketing darned near everyone.

Granted, there are the go-fast kids that insist on doing 90 everywhere, but those are the ones the cops pull over.

And it's also true there are some places that heavily enforce the speed limit....the I-95 corridor through Maryland/DC/No VA comes to mind. I've driven that corridor more times than I care to count over the last 40 years and I will not go faster than what others do.....the cops are speed Nazis and doing anything faster than 5mph over invites a ticket.

But, by and large, cops let traffic set the flow, and the vast majority of drivers settle into a decently moving speed.....which is generally faster than the posted limits. And, contrary to some thinking, raising speed limits and/or driving faster than the posted limits on the interstate is not more dangerous. You have to remember, these 55mph interstate roads of today used to be 70mph roadways 40 years ago and were decreased in the interest of "saving gas".

Add to that the fact that as posted speed limits have risen, the death rate per million miles traveled has decreased.

So, what to do just the speed limit? Get out of the left lane and let the sensible drivers go with the flow of traffic.

I probably have seen that sign. I get what you guys are saying but my whole point is that, while moving faster is generally accepted, it still is not technically legal. If I can get a ticket for driving faster than the speed limit, then its not legal to do so, left or right lane. Just like its technically illegal to change lanes in an intersection or yellow doesn't mean speed up, people ignore those laws all the time. Still doesn't make doing those things legal. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree because unless I see in writing someplace that the law officially states you can drive faster than the speed limit in the left lane, I'm not gonna believe its legal. I know its commonly accepted and that's all well and good, but it doesn't mean its right. I also am aware of the whole flow of traffic thing, and that's understandable. Safety trumps legality. I'm talking about the instances where everybody is driving 65 in a 55 and some jackass comes up doing 75 and expects you to move. No. If I'm expected to drive at the speed where the flow of traffic is unimpeded, he doesn't need to drive faster than the flow of traffic.

BTW, I don't typically drive in the left lane anyway so the issue doesn't come up for me too often, but it still irks me to see people have the mentality that if you're not driving as fast as I want you to in the left lane, you're wrong.

 

[mammador]

some middle-aged crazy caucasian lady was speeding in a corvette. i switched lanes and got in front of her. i didn't signal, but i didn't cut her off either. she gets over to the other lane, pulls up next to me, revs her engine, and swerves in and out at me several times, trying to force me off the road. lol, i am surprised she had the balls to do this. i am brown and have tinted windows. she was not scared apparently. should i have done something about it? i wasn't sure as i have not seen a woman rage like this before. then again, that was no woman. rather a beast that i should have uppercutted with full force.

er... let her be?

look dude, it's not the end of the world.

 

[mammador]

The best way to deal with road ragers is to follow the laws of the road to a T such as slowing down to the speed limit (and using turn signals... lol). I love to do this if someone is tailgating me and swerving all over and giving me the finger. Ok, fine, I'm doing 10 over the speed limit, I will now do the speed limit exactly, and set it on cruise. They can wave their arms and beep all they want, but I'm following the law.

They usually end up passing in rage even if the line is solid or they'll pass on the shoulder, which could potentially end up being hilarious if there's a pole that gets in the way (ragers tend to miss things like that because they're too busy worrying about why they can't do 40 over).

I also love the ones who try to treat a 2 lane (per side) road as a 2 lane in winter, when clearly, the 2nd lane is not really usable because it's half snow bank and not really plowed. They'll rage trying to pass and end up having to stop and wait for traffic to clear so they can get in the proper lane that does not have a foot of soft snow in it.

er.. let them past. Road ragers are pathetic, and take their annoyance out on random people.

If somebody is beeping me angrily when I'm driving I simply let them pass, and laugh at them as they speed off. :biggrin: