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I got a B :(

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Meh gpa doesn't mean squat in the big scheme of things...unless you engineering. I've yet to graduate (still taking classes for my degree) and have a 2.2 gpa or something stupid. Got a full time position because I impressed in the interview and showed I knew my shit.

Not sure why people make such a big deal over gpa. Except maybe going to grad school since they look at that.

I thought that engineering was one of the most GPA-lenient majors out there. In the sciences you won't find any work with a BS or BA unless you decide to be a lab monkey or something similar, a liberal arts undergraduate degree won't get you anything more than personal satisfaction, no medical or law school will accept you... bachelor's are still pretty standard in engineering AFAIK, and like you said, there it mostly boils down to being able to show that you can apply your knowledge.
 
I'm impressed that you got hired with a 2.2 GPA.

I'm a business major. All of my basics are what brought down my GPA. I did a lot of goofing off and partying my freshman year. My major GPA was closer to 3.2. Having said that they didn't even ask me about my GPA and I didn't mention it.

I should note I did an internship there over the summer and they offered me the position then.
 
I thought that engineering was one of the most GPA-lenient majors out there. In the sciences you won't find any work with a BS or BA unless you decide to be a lab monkey or something similar, a liberal arts undergraduate degree won't get you anything more than personal satisfaction, no medical or law school will accept you... bachelor's are still pretty standard in engineering AFAIK, and like you said, there it mostly boils down to being able to show that you can apply your knowledge.

I think it can depend on which study you are. There is a lot of applied math so higher GPA usually means a better grasp on the required skills.

Science definitely wants a higher GPA but I believe there are more tests.
 
salary and position are pretty broad ranges in the engineering world as well. Some start at closer to six figures than others.

Vet true. Petroleum around here starts you around 70-80k ready. But the program is very demanding. Anywhere around a 3.5 Is good. The programs are also very tough to get into. Generally need around 3.4-3.5
 
It's easy to do. I never bought books or went to class and got some B's and C's in General Ed and accounting which is what I started out as in college. Just wasn't interested so all I did was take tests off what I learned in HS which wasn't sufficient. Got all A's in math and sciences which I liked. Do what you like and are interested in you'll do better.
 
so... i'm thinking of completely skipping discrete math.

already had exposure to discrete probability theory, intending on taking real analysis next semester..

already had calc 1-3 and lin algebra, diffeq, discrete and continuous probability theory...

along with non-math classes in which discrete math concepts are used.

nope, don't really think i need discrete math. (fwiw, i've never taken trig and had no problems in any of the calc classes)

I really like discrete (I'm a math major) because it introduces you to proofs and sets. Clearly the class will differ from school to school, but I really find it interesting. It "feels" like I'm really doing mathematics. We'll see how modern algebra goes next semester.

As for teachers knowing how to do math, high school math teaching majors have the same requirements that I do for pure math, but instead of a real minor, those hours go towards the education aspect of their degree.

I'm a junior taking discrete (I went in a weird order) and it's amazing how unprepared the freshmen are. I really think that discrete and linear algebra should be touched on in high school. I didn't feel comfortable with linear algebra until my linear programming class.
 
I really like discrete (I'm a math major) because it introduces you to proofs and sets. Clearly the class will differ from school to school, but I really find it interesting. It "feels" like I'm really doing mathematics. We'll see how modern algebra goes next semester.

As for teachers knowing how to do math, high school math teaching majors have the same requirements that I do for pure math, but instead of a real minor, those hours go towards the education aspect of their degree.

I'm a junior taking discrete (I went in a weird order) and it's amazing how unprepared the freshmen are. I really think that discrete and linear algebra should be touched on in high school. I didn't feel comfortable with linear algebra until my linear programming class.

heh... i was completely fine with linear algebra the whole way through it. some of the proofs are a little touch and go, but then when are serious proofs not?

i probably am a little more verbose than most. when i was less verbose than is necessary for one, i got zero credit. the next test, for a proof that a non-singular determinant meant the set spanned a vector space, i took 2 pages to set up a 2 line proof.
 
This is why I got bad grades through high school/college. When I take classes that engage and interest me, I do really well. When I don't give a fuck, I don't give a fuck.
 
I thought that engineering was one of the most GPA-lenient majors out there. In the sciences you won't find any work with a BS or BA unless you decide to be a lab monkey or something similar, a liberal arts undergraduate degree won't get you anything more than personal satisfaction, no medical or law school will accept you... bachelor's are still pretty standard in engineering AFAIK, and like you said, there it mostly boils down to being able to show that you can apply your knowledge.

I'm not sure if this was meant to be satirical or not, but the bolded statements are most definitively wrong. And while a liberal arts degree may not be relevant to a lot of things, there are jobs that hold a college degree of any major as a requirement.
 
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This is why I got bad grades through high school/college. When I take classes that engage and interest me, I do really well. When I don't give a fuck, I don't give a fuck.

Same here.

Now that I'm giving my self some time to see life outside of school finally (4 year degree right after high school), I'm realizing how much some time in-between would have probably helped.
I graduated, but with a less than 3.0 GPA average in a B.A. degree. 😱
Stupid easy but a lot of courses required bullshit memorization... the ones that required applied thinking I usually walked away with an A or B+ at the worst (unless I never felt engaged, then it didn't matter).
And failing to take Russian seriously resulted in failing a few times in that subject area alone (and I needed 6 consecutive courses in a language). Couple that with challenging semesters and sometimes I mismanaged which material was ignored at different times.

Getting into a graduate program with less than a 3.0 is pretty much impossible too. Damn I hate fucking up.

That, and I've realized how much a B.A. degree is such a waste of time, that if I want a Masters or PhD I'll basically need to take at least 3 whole years to complete a worthwhile undergrad degree... I doubt I can get any more than a year, if that, of credits from my previous degree to cover prereq's for a new degree.
 
Same here.

Now that I'm giving my self some time to see life outside of school finally (4 year degree right after high school), I'm realizing how much some time in-between would have probably helped.
I graduated, but with a less than 3.0 GPA average in a B.A. degree. 😱
Stupid easy but a lot of courses required bullshit memorization... the ones that required applied thinking I usually walked away with an A or B+ at the worst (unless I never felt engaged, then it didn't matter).
And failing to take Russian seriously resulted in failing a few times in that subject area alone (and I needed 6 consecutive courses in a language). Couple that with challenging semesters and sometimes I mismanaged which material was ignored at different times.

Getting into a graduate program with less than a 3.0 is pretty much impossible too. Damn I hate fucking up.

That, and I've realized how much a B.A. degree is such a waste of time, that if I want a Masters or PhD I'll basically need to take at least 3 whole years to complete a worthwhile undergrad degree... I doubt I can get any more than a year, if that, of credits from my previous degree to cover prereq's for a new degree.

First school - NJIT - Full ride through sports - dropped out halfway through first semester because Newark sucked, especially after 9/11. Technical reason, medical withdrawal; I did have signs of asthma from doing 3 a day workouts with volleyball.

Second school - NIU - Had a 1.4 GPA over a whole year, basically never went to class. Got a 109% in my Logic class because I really liked the course material, plus I only showed up on the 3 test days 🙂

Third school - After 4 years in the Army, a local college. Graduated with honors with a A.S. in science because I took random ass shit that I had never learned about before plus I could discipline myself to actually attend 75% of my classes.

Fourth school - Back to NIU, had a 3.5 for the first semester of my Jr. Year towards a history degree. Dropped out because I started working full time. What will a history degree get me? Absolutely nothing, but it really interests me.

So I need to either finish 3 semesters of history, which i know will hold my interest, or dive back into some other program that I wont give a shit about. Can I finish a business degree? Easily. Do I want to? Probably not.
 
First school - NJIT - Full ride through sports - dropped out halfway through first semester because Newark sucked, especially after 9/11. Technical reason, medical withdrawal; I did have signs of asthma from doing 3 a day workouts with volleyball.

Second school - NIU - Had a 1.4 GPA over a whole year, basically never went to class. Got a 109% in my Logic class because I really liked the course material, plus I only showed up on the 3 test days 🙂

Third school - After 4 years in the Army, a local college. Graduated with honors with a A.S. in science because I took random ass shit that I had never learned about before plus I could discipline myself to actually attend 75% of my classes.

Fourth school - Back to NIU, had a 3.5 for the first semester of my Jr. Year towards a history degree. Dropped out because I started working full time. What will a history degree get me? Absolutely nothing, but it really interests me.

So I need to either finish 3 semesters of history, which i know will hold my interest, or dive back into some other program that I wont give a shit about. Can I finish a business degree? Easily. Do I want to? Probably not.

What year were you at NJIT?
 
This is what I want to know. :biggrin:



Also, WTF is up with the necro poster? That strange string of posts made my brain hurt...
()🙂 [BRB]: Be Right Back. Be Right... Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time.
😀 [Q4P]: "I think WTF knows him. He said he was dead. "
()🙂 [BRB]: "Oh, he's not dead... Not yet."
😀 [Q4P]: "You know him?"
()🙂 [BRB]: "Oh course I know him. He's me.
:wub: [R2D2]: [beeps in surprise]
 
()🙂 [BRB]: Be Right Back. Be Right... Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time.
😀 [Q4P]: "I think WTF knows him. He said he was dead. "
()🙂 [BRB]: "Oh, he's not dead... Not yet."
😀 [Q4P]: "You know him?"
()🙂 [BRB]: "Oh course I know him. He's me.
:wub: [R2D2]: [beeps in surprise]

[LMAO] would join the convo, but he is [BTD] with the charade.
 
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