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I fvcking hate inexperienced poker players

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: 95SS
How much was your preflop raise? What were the blinds? By how much did he have you covered? How did he have the 5s when it was on the board? 😉
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No preflop raise. It probably wouldn't have mattered against him because if you'll call with 35 you'll probably call anything heads up being high stack. Also, preflop raises are pretty pointless at the tournament I was playing because people will call anything, with anything.

Blinds 320 and 160

He had me by what looked to be about 10% of my stack by my guess. We didn't count.

Bad story telling. And one pounded drink that I'd ordered right before I got bounced 🙁 It was a low spade, though. Not higher than my 8. Which one I can't quite remember, though to be honest.
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No preflop raise? No offense, but why in the hell would you limp with that hand? If you're going to play, make a standard 3-5xBB raise, see who plays along. Just because the players are calling anything doesn't mean you can play crappy poker. If he had 3s4s, he flopped the nuts, with a straight flush draw. He's not going anywhere. If he had 3s6s, he still flopped a flush draw and a gutshot straight draw, he's basically even money in this spot. Bad poker on your part, IMO.
 
Originally posted by: walla
Did you bet on the flop with top pair? I probably would have also bet on the turn too. If somebody came over back over the top with an all with three suited cards on the board...probably would has suspected something.

I'm not a beginner, but sometimes I'll see a flop with suited cards particularly if they have straight potential. It sounds like he nearly had a straight flush on the (edit) flop (assuming one of the 5 of spades you mentioned in his hand/board was a similar but different low spade card). He's probably got something like 12~15 outs to make the best hand at that point if he figures he's not playing against higher spades. I might have chased to the river if I could afford it.
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Yes, I bet on the flop. He went all in on the turn. I called.

Don't get me wrong people. I played like an idiot. He caught me napping completely and I didn't even see the flush. Literally did not even see it. That's the worst play I've made since I can remember. All I'm saying is you don't see a lot of callers with 35. Suited or not.
 
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: 95SS
How much was your preflop raise? What were the blinds? By how much did he have you covered? How did he have the 5s when it was on the board? 😉
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No preflop raise. It probably wouldn't have mattered against him because if you'll call with 35 you'll probably call anything heads up being high stack. Also, preflop raises are pretty pointless at the tournament I was playing because people will call anything, with anything.

Blinds 320 and 160

He had me by what looked to be about 10% of my stack by my guess. We didn't count.

Bad story telling. And one pounded drink that I'd ordered right before I got bounced 🙁 It was a low spade, though. Not higher than my 8. Which one I can't quite remember, though to be honest.
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I feel ya.... I got bounced from a tournament by a guy who called a pre-flop bet that was 1/3 of his stack with K/5 in a three-way(and this was with about 30 people left still...). I held Qs, so I bet an amount that put a short-stack guy all-in, and 1/3 of the K/5 guy's stack. He called, and the flop was 5/5/X(I can't remember, but it wasn't ace nor king and no flush), and he went all in. It was a matter of figuring out whether or not he had my queens beat, and it probably should've occurred to me that he had me beat either with those 5s or perhaps a set with his pocket pairs, but I called anyway, and he took most of my chips. 🙁
 
only calls on the blind and ill play just about any straight or flush draw to the flop if im big stack. better to gamble and catch to bust some balls then just giving away the blinds.

but i love to gamble and dont get pissed when i lose.
 
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: Yossarian
someone let me know when the "poker craze" is over
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You and me both. I've been playing for years and I hate all the stupid players it's brought to the game. You just can't read those people. Like I said, this one was my fault but on an experienced table I would have skated on this one 98 times out of 100.
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Good players who complain about stupid players aren't actually good players.
Stupid players == $$
 
Originally posted by: KnickNut3
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: Yossarian
someone let me know when the "poker craze" is over
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You and me both. I've been playing for years and I hate all the stupid players it's brought to the game. You just can't read those people. Like I said, this one was my fault but on an experienced table I would have skated on this one 98 times out of 100.
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Good players who complain about stupid players aren't actually good players.
Stupid players == $$
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I know... I know. I'm just not good enough at reading those people. I've been playing for a good while but I'm by no means where I'd like to be in terms of my game. I can play pretty good against decent-good players. New players, however, fvck me all up a fair amount of the time.

Screw it though, I earned this one all the way and I've never said otherwise. It's just good motivation to start playing more games and tighten my game up. That's the dumbest thing I've ever done at a poker table and as long as it stays the dumbest thing I've done I'll just count it a lesson learned.

All the support I've got from you guys means the world to me, though 😀
 
Yeah dude, sorry but that's your fault. The flop didn't help you much either. But even pro players will call suited connectors especially if everybody else folded and the only other person just called the big blind. It's a loose call, but pros do it expressly for catching the kind of hand you just described. I wouldn't even begin to call them amateurs just because of that one hand. He was the big stack. They're almost obligated to play a little looser and try to knock smaller stacks out of the game.
 
Alright, so for the people here that play online what's currently a good site with a decent (any?) bonus that does small no limit tournaments? I'll be a first time online player.
 
Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: 95SS
How much was your preflop raise? What were the blinds? By how much did he have you covered? How did he have the 5s when it was on the board? 😉
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No preflop raise. It probably wouldn't have mattered against him because if you'll call with 35 you'll probably call anything heads up being high stack. Also, preflop raises are pretty pointless at the tournament I was playing because people will call anything, with anything.

Blinds 320 and 160

He had me by what looked to be about 10% of my stack by my guess. We didn't count.

Bad story telling. And one pounded drink that I'd ordered right before I got bounced 🙁 It was a low spade, though. Not higher than my 8. Which one I can't quite remember, though to be honest.
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I feel ya.... I got bounced from a tournament by a guy who called a pre-flop bet that was 1/3 of his stack with K/5 in a three-way(and this was with about 30 people left still...). I held Qs, so I bet an amount that put a short-stack guy all-in, and 1/3 of the K/5 guy's stack. He called, and the flop was 5/5/X(I can't remember, but it wasn't ace nor king and no flush), and he went all in. It was a matter of figuring out whether or not he had my queens beat, and it probably should've occurred to me that he had me beat either with those 5s or perhaps a set with his pocket pairs, but I called anyway, and he took most of my chips. 🙁
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/head explodes messily
 
Man, I'm a bit of a rookie here, but sounds like it might have been cheap for him to stay in for the flop.
 
You got the floor wiped with you and your hand for two reasons. One, there's a mother freaking FLUSH out just at the turn, much less the river, so you already completely overlooked the very likely possibility of a flush bowling right over you, because remember, a flush beats out a lot of crap... including YOUR crap this time. Two, you had a pair of aces... dear God... that's the hand that's most likely to cause you to do some completely moronic crap.

We play cards on the Hono... a LOT... but especially during deployments... in fact there's usually a card game going on the mess decks after almost every watch, and the thing we see the most is someone of pair of aces practically shouting to the heavens, "I'M INVEEEEENNNCCCEEEBBBUUULL!!" Yeah, well, you're not... I've beat a lotta pair of aces with three 2s.

Bottom line is you weren't paying attention to the cards out on the table, you weren't running through scenarios in your head about what the other guy had, and you paid the price hardcore my friend.
 
That guy did not sound like an inexperienced player.

Suited connectors are played to get straights and flushes. Which he got.

You gotta remember that two pair are really not that strong because they can only beat one pair.
 
i watch for flush draws without much problem now, but straight draws still get me unless i concentrate
 
that sucks man...can't necessarily say you got outplayed...but you were sloppy because of the distraction from the waitress...his head was in the hand and yours wasn't...you still had 4 outs on the river though...bad break
 
id be playing that hand also if I was big stack with no preflop raise....much less blinds still being quite low for a tourney...

take it as a lesson learned
 
Many people love to play suited cards. Two pair is NOT a good hand to call an all in on... specially when they're a possibility of a flush on the table at the time... you hate inexperienced players? Look at yourself.
 
Originally posted by: Modeps
Many people love to play suited cards. Two pair is NOT a good hand to call an all in on... specially when they're a possibility of a flush on the table at the time... you hate inexperienced players? Look at yourself.
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Specially when Its the big stack against the 2nd big stack..LOL....not like he was using it to scare off a lower stacked player...

 
Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: 95SS
How much was your preflop raise? What were the blinds? By how much did he have you covered? How did he have the 5s when it was on the board? 😉
Click to expand...

No preflop raise. It probably wouldn't have mattered against him because if you'll call with 35 you'll probably call anything heads up being high stack. Also, preflop raises are pretty pointless at the tournament I was playing because people will call anything, with anything.

Blinds 320 and 160

He had me by what looked to be about 10% of my stack by my guess. We didn't count.

Bad story telling. And one pounded drink that I'd ordered right before I got bounced 🙁 It was a low spade, though. Not higher than my 8. Which one I can't quite remember, though to be honest.
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I feel ya.... I got bounced from a tournament by a guy who called a pre-flop bet that was 1/3 of his stack with K/5 in a three-way(and this was with about 30 people left still...). I held Qs, so I bet an amount that put a short-stack guy all-in, and 1/3 of the K/5 guy's stack. He called, and the flop was 5/5/X(I can't remember, but it wasn't ace nor king and no flush), and he went all in. It was a matter of figuring out whether or not he had my queens beat, and it probably should've occurred to me that he had me beat either with those 5s or perhaps a set with his pocket pairs, but I called anyway, and he took most of my chips. 🙁
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That's why I prefer FL. Less "hmm, does he have it??? I don't know!!" and more math (well, technically NL has more math, but not the way most people play it).
 
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