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Golden Member
Oct 27, 2005
pay cuts for federal employees? hmmm. all i can say is the gov is saving a bundle since they insourced the contract i was on. they made everyone a civilian. And when they did all but 4 people (out of 50) got a pay cut over their contractor wages. Im talking 15%-30% paycuts. i actually got a 10% raise because i was making so little. so it worked out for me. :D


Elite Member
Dec 23, 2000
Being in the private sector and non-union, I would have accepted a large pay cut vs being laid off like I was.


Platinum Member
Sep 7, 2006
OP: nice idea, and logical, but it can't happen because of unions. They aren't the only problem, but they stand in the way of any logical changes to be made.

I work at a very successful private retailer that employs over 1000 people. Management can be somewhat unfair sometimes, but they pay pretty well for entry-level, hourly positions, and fantastically for labor-positions. We weathered the downturn for the first few months, but eventually began to feel it. Instead of layoffs, the bosses decided on cutting out almost all overtime, freezing payroll, and delaying raises to double the normal time-frame. Almost no one complained, because it was better than the alternative. We have no unions. Eighteen months later, we're back to normal, none the worse for the wear.

With that said, I agree it's unlikely to get the general populace to agree to such terms.