I find this somewhat disturbing

[RobCur]

I wonder if it has has any truth to it? anyway, its freaking me out...
http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2003/12/19521.php

 

[kylebisme]

well it is either Bush or David Hasselhoff.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm goingto wait for Caddy to tell me what to think. I'm sure he can find another explanation.

 

[magomago]

Here is my favorite part

Nero has indeed returned, but not as Nero the Roman emporer, he's returned in spirit as George W Bush, the 43rd (P)resident of the United States

 

[Genesys]

some people have too much time on their hands to be doing frivouls crap like this.

if theyre going to spend time doing something, make it something useful. like cureing cancer or aids or stoping africans from committing genocide.

 

[Dari]

If Bush is the devil, then I am God.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Dari
If Bush is the devil, then I am God.

Well there you go, RobCur, another person who agrees with you.

 

[heartsurgeon]

i gotta say, this is not the typical way that liberals attack our President.

A+ for creativity.

 

[chess9]

Ah, more solid proof that Bush is evil. First Wesley Clark and now this. I'd say the evidence is overwhelming.

-Robert

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I'm goingto wait for Caddy to tell me what to think. I'm sure he can find another explanation.

"for Caddy to tell me what to think"

Hahaha

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I'm goingto wait for Caddy to tell me what to think. I'm sure he can find another explanation.

The Snowman hit this on the head.

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
well it is either Bush or David Hasselhoff.

I believe you could link just about anything you wanted if you tried hard enough.

Do you agree moonie?

CkG

 

[Corn]

Do you agree moonie?

Why do you concern yourself with what Moonie thinks?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Corn

Do you agree moonie?

Why do you concern yourself with what Moonie thinks?

He seemed interested in what I had to say. Infact he was waiting for me to tell him what he thinks.

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Corn

Do you agree moonie?

Why do you concern yourself with what Moonie thinks?

He seemed interested in what I had to say. Infact he was waiting for me to tell him what he thinks.

CkG

Yes of course I'm interested in what you say, and Corn too, of course. And Corn is a fine one to be criticizing you for an interest in me. Amazing! I sort of thought Corn and I were kind of permanently attached like Siameese twins, my hand squeezed around his balls, cause he offers them so often.

And I think you make a valid and related point as one, statistically speaking at least, would come to expect once in a while I guess. You should be able to find a link to just about anything.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Corn

Do you agree moonie?

Why do you concern yourself with what Moonie thinks?

He seemed interested in what I had to say. Infact he was waiting for me to tell him what he thinks.

CkG

Yes of course I'm interested in what you say, and Corn too, of course. And Corn is a fine one to be criticizing you for an interest in me. Amazing! I sort of thought Corn and I were kind of permanently attached like Siameese twins, my hand squeezed around his balls, cause he offers them so often.

And I think you make a valid and related point as one, statistically speaking at least, would come to expect once in a while I guess. You should be able to find a link to just about anything.

Ah, but the question then becomes - is Corn a pop? I don't remember him stating that he has kids. So we are missing one link in the chain

CkG

 

[Flyermax2k3]

this couldn't possibly be true because it comes from the Bible. As we all know the Bible is nothing more than a bunch of stories made up to comfort the foolish masses. Silly Christians with their silly faith.
/end sarcasm mode
/begin rant mode
You're all blind. mock all you like, you won't be laughing when this world goes to hell (literally) very shortly.

 

[Bowfinger]

I don't put much stock in this kind of stuff. One bit of the page piqued my interest, however, so I did a little checking. Before you YABAs dismiss it out of hand, note that it's from the Bible and it suggests Bush will win in 2004:

Daniel 8:1-17 In the third year of King Belshazzar's reign, I Daniel, had a vision, after the one that had already appeared to me. In my vision I saw in the citadel of Susa in the province of Elam ( in Iraq just east of Babylon)...I looked up and there before me was a ram with two horns (Saddam Hussein), and the horns were long (he had the fourth most powerful army in the world). One of the horns was longer than the others but grew up later (his forces were divided into the regular armed forces and the Republican army, which was formed later and eventually grew into seven divisions). I watched the ram as he charged towards the west, the north and the south. (Saddam was causing a lot of trouble in the region - supporting terrorism and fighting with Israel in the west, then fighting the Kurds in the north and with Iran along their northern border, and finally invading and occupying Kuwait in the south.) No animal could stand up to him, and none could rescue from his power. He did as he pleased and became great. ( He had become the greatest military power in the region, and was on the verge of acquiring nuclear capability and overrunning Saudi Arabia and the rest of the oil states.)

As I was thinking about this, suddenly a goat with a prominent horn came from the west (United States military forces under President George HW Bush), crossing the whole earth without touching the ground (our forces were airlifted in from across the globe). He came towards the two-horned ram (Saddam's forces) they had seen standing by the canal (the straights of Shatt Al Arab, a crucial oil-producing region shared by Iraq and Kuwait and crucial in the conflict) and charged at him in great rage. I saw him attack the ram furiously, striking the ram and shattering his two horns. (the air war shattered and demoralized the dug-in Iraqi forces.) The ram was powerless to stand against him, the goat knocked him to the ground and trampled on him, and none could rescue the ram from his power. (the ground invasion rolled right over Saddam's forces.) The goat became very great, but at the height of his power his large horn was broken off. (in spite of a skyrocketing job approval rate, George WH Bush lost the presidency a year later and was no longer commander-in-chief.) And in its place four prominent horns grew up towards the four winds of heaven. (all Bush Sr. has left is his four sons: George, John (aka ?Jeb?), Neil & Marvin.) Out of one of them came another horn, which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land. (George W bush started out spending most of his adult life drinking and failing at business ventures. But then out of nowhere he started growing in power and was elected governor of the southern state of Texas, then he went east to Washington DC to assume the presidency, and now he's heading off to conquer the middle east (the 'beautiful land').) It grew until it reached the host of heaven and it threw some of the starry hosts down to earth and trampled on them. (There will be an air and bombing campaign followed by a ground war.) It set itself up as great as the Prince of the host; ('Operation Infinite Justice', pretending that his justice and power is equal to that of an infinite God) it took away the place of daily sacrifice from him, and the place of his sanctuary was brought low. (war will engulf the middle east in a holy war as supposed religious terrorists are tracked down and any Islamic state which offering them sanctuary is attacked). The heavenly host was delivered up (countless innocent civilians will be slaughtered), and the little horn (George bush Jr.) raised itself impiously against the regular offering and cast true religion to the ground; (he claims to be a religious man of peace fighting against evil, but just the opposite is the case. He is just a war monger looking for enough oil to satisfy his insatiable greed.) It succeeded in all he did, and truth was thrown to the ground (for a time he will be very successful in his 'war against terrorism', and fool a lot of people).

Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, "How long will it take for the vision to be fullfilled? -....." He said to me, "It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated." (this holy war will last about six and a half years, causing an unbelievable amount death and destruction - then the antichrist will be removed by God and peace restored to the Middle East)....While I, Daniel, was watching the vision and trying to understand it, there before me stood one one who looked like a man. (the son of God) And I heard a man's voice calling, "Gabriel, tell this man the meaning of the vision." As he came near the place I was standing, I was terrified and fell prostrate. "Son of man," he said to me, "understand that the vision concerns the time of the end." (we are entering the last days - the Apocalypse.)

2,300 days. What's the possibile significance of that number?

Let's assume that "the sanctuary will be reconsecrated" refers to Inauguration Day, 2009, the day Bush's successor takes over if Bush wins in 2004. That day is January 20, 2009. What happened 2,300 days before 1/20/09?

As it happens, according to the Julian calculator I used, October 4, 2002, is exactly 2300 days before 1/20/09. On October 4, 2002, the White House announced Bush would address the nation three days later to lay out his case against Iraq. In Bush's October 5 radio address, Bush "called on Americans to support a draft resolution now before Congress that would authorize the use of force if necessary to destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction" (according to the State Department web site). On October 7, Bush made his famous (or infamous) televised Cincinnati speech (the "mushroom cloud" speech) that launched his crusade against Iraq and pressured Congress to pass his resolution. Congress passed the resolution on October 10, 2002.

If you insist that the Bible's "2,300 days" must be taken literally as the exact number, it gives us the 10/4 announcement of the speech. If you're OK with believing 2,300 is an approximation, then you can start your clock with the speech itself (2,297 days) or the passage of the invasion resolution (2,294 days) That's only 1/4 of 1% off the prophesy, certainly close enough for government work.

Just a little something to chew on.

 

[Moonbeam]

I call Corn my bunion we've grown so close. And since I have a hand in his reproductive possibilities, I can't see how we'll fail. I'll just give him a good squeeze.

 

[Spamela]

since i've never seen Bush & the debbil together, that settles it.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Dari
If Bush is the devil, then I am God.

Yes... I accept God created the devil... but, what I don't accept is the notion that everyone who Helped create the devil are God!

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I call Corn my bunion we've grown so close. And since I have a hand in his reproductive possibilities, I can't see how we'll fail. I'll just give him a good squeeze.

The stories of Johnny Appleseed abound and now we have Moonie Cornseed... The harvester of the sowers delight..

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: Dari
If Bush is the devil, then I am God.

Yes... I accept God created the devil... but, what I don't accept is the notion that everyone who Helped create the devil are God!

Well of course he isn't God, but he is the measure of all things and has taken His place because of a fear created ego. You know if you want the job done right you need to send Dari. We can't reach such a level even if we climbed the Washington monument.

 

[Gaard]

If Dari is God, who would his mentor be?

 

[Jhhnn]

Mathematical prestidigitation, one of the great tricks of magicians, and the books of Daniel and Revelations, the ravings of schizophrenics, combined into one big fuzzy voodoo whodoo...

Yeh, It's disturbing, like waiting in line behind a wino who's talking to himself....

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
I don't put much stock in this kind of stuff. One bit of the page piqued my interest, however, so I did a little checking. Before you YABAs dismiss it out of hand, note that it's from the Bible and it suggests Bush will win in 2004:

Daniel 8:1-17 In the third year of King Belshazzar's reign, I Daniel, had a vision, after the one that had already appeared to me. In my vision I saw in the citadel of Susa in the province of Elam ( in Iraq just east of Babylon)...I looked up and there before me was a ram with two horns (Saddam Hussein), and the horns were long (he had the fourth most powerful army in the world). One of the horns was longer than the others but grew up later (his forces were divided into the regular armed forces and the Republican army, which was formed later and eventually grew into seven divisions). I watched the ram as he charged towards the west, the north and the south. (Saddam was causing a lot of trouble in the region - supporting terrorism and fighting with Israel in the west, then fighting the Kurds in the north and with Iran along their northern border, and finally invading and occupying Kuwait in the south.) No animal could stand up to him, and none could rescue from his power. He did as he pleased and became great. ( He had become the greatest military power in the region, and was on the verge of acquiring nuclear capability and overrunning Saudi Arabia and the rest of the oil states.)

As I was thinking about this, suddenly a goat with a prominent horn came from the west (United States military forces under President George HW Bush), crossing the whole earth without touching the ground (our forces were airlifted in from across the globe). He came towards the two-horned ram (Saddam's forces) they had seen standing by the canal (the straights of Shatt Al Arab, a crucial oil-producing region shared by Iraq and Kuwait and crucial in the conflict) and charged at him in great rage. I saw him attack the ram furiously, striking the ram and shattering his two horns. (the air war shattered and demoralized the dug-in Iraqi forces.) The ram was powerless to stand against him, the goat knocked him to the ground and trampled on him, and none could rescue the ram from his power. (the ground invasion rolled right over Saddam's forces.) The goat became very great, but at the height of his power his large horn was broken off. (in spite of a skyrocketing job approval rate, George WH Bush lost the presidency a year later and was no longer commander-in-chief.) And in its place four prominent horns grew up towards the four winds of heaven. (all Bush Sr. has left is his four sons: George, John (aka ?Jeb?), Neil & Marvin.) Out of one of them came another horn, which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land. (George W bush started out spending most of his adult life drinking and failing at business ventures. But then out of nowhere he started growing in power and was elected governor of the southern state of Texas, then he went east to Washington DC to assume the presidency, and now he's heading off to conquer the middle east (the 'beautiful land').) It grew until it reached the host of heaven and it threw some of the starry hosts down to earth and trampled on them. (There will be an air and bombing campaign followed by a ground war.) It set itself up as great as the Prince of the host; ('Operation Infinite Justice', pretending that his justice and power is equal to that of an infinite God) it took away the place of daily sacrifice from him, and the place of his sanctuary was brought low. (war will engulf the middle east in a holy war as supposed religious terrorists are tracked down and any Islamic state which offering them sanctuary is attacked). The heavenly host was delivered up (countless innocent civilians will be slaughtered), and the little horn (George bush Jr.) raised itself impiously against the regular offering and cast true religion to the ground; (he claims to be a religious man of peace fighting against evil, but just the opposite is the case. He is just a war monger looking for enough oil to satisfy his insatiable greed.) It succeeded in all he did, and truth was thrown to the ground (for a time he will be very successful in his 'war against terrorism', and fool a lot of people).

Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, "How long will it take for the vision to be fullfilled? -....." He said to me, "It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated." (this holy war will last about six and a half years, causing an unbelievable amount death and destruction - then the antichrist will be removed by God and peace restored to the Middle East)....While I, Daniel, was watching the vision and trying to understand it, there before me stood one one who looked like a man. (the son of God) And I heard a man's voice calling, "Gabriel, tell this man the meaning of the vision." As he came near the place I was standing, I was terrified and fell prostrate. "Son of man," he said to me, "understand that the vision concerns the time of the end." (we are entering the last days - the Apocalypse.)

2,300 days. What's the possibile significance of that number?

Let's assume that "the sanctuary will be reconsecrated" refers to Inauguration Day, 2009, the day Bush's successor takes over if Bush wins in 2004. That day is January 20, 2009. What happened 2,300 days before 1/20/09?

As it happens, according to the Julian calculator I used, October 4, 2002, is exactly 2300 days before 1/20/09. On October 4, 2002, the White House announced Bush would address the nation three days later to lay out his case against Iraq. In Bush's October 5 radio address, Bush "called on Americans to support a draft resolution now before Congress that would authorize the use of force if necessary to destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction" (according to the State Department web site). On October 7, Bush made his famous (or infamous) televised Cincinnati speech (the "mushroom cloud" speech) that launched his crusade against Iraq and pressured Congress to pass his resolution. Congress passed the resolution on October 10, 2002.

If you insist that the Bible's "2,300 days" must be taken literally as the exact number, it gives us the 10/4 announcement of the speech. If you're OK with believing 2,300 is an approximation, then you can start your clock with the speech itself (2,297 days) or the passage of the invasion resolution (2,294 days) That's only 1/4 of 1% off the prophesy, certainly close enough for government work.

Just a little something to chew on.

Hmmm. I thought the Bushies would be all excited that the Bible predicts Bush winning a second term. Go figure.


(Note to Jhhnn: In general I agree with you. However, this 2300 days match seems more specific and unlikely than your ususal numerology slight of hand.)