I finally saw The Matrix: Revolutions

[SilverThief]

The last 2 sucked.

 

[BigToque]

I don't really feel that the movie could have had an ending that would have made it any better.

Personally, I believe that the movie ended in a way that was totally intended and not what you guys were expecting. What I see is that the whole matrix/zion war is just a cover for a bigger message or idea, and that is that the whole movie focuses on Smith and Neo.

You have Smith a computer program who is learning and gaining power at an incredible speed. He just keeps going. He wants to control everything. When he is about to defeat Neo, is he starts to struggle with something very powerful and he can't understand it.

Smith: Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why, why do you do it? Why, why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson, vagaries of perception. Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. And all of them as artificial as the Matrix itself. Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love. You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson, you must know it by now! You can't win, it's pointless to keep fighting! Why, Mr. Anderson, why, why do you persist?
Neo: Because I choose to.

While Smith is telling Neo how pointless his resistance is, he is quite deeply troubled by one of the very things that makes us human. What I think is the point of this movie is that even this program became so powerful and yet he still cannot justify his own existance or purpose.

 

[StageLeft]

It was better than the second one, but absolutely nothing resolved, not that I gave a sh*t after the second one's train wreck.

 

[thirtythree]

what were you expecting?

edit: decided to be nice.

 

[BigJelly]

but absolutely nothing resolved

Nothing resolved did you watch the fvcking movie people???

The war is over, no the machines weren't destroyed but look at those defenses for the machines to be destroyed would just be so stupid--an underground force of .25million does what the world couldnt do at full strength against a much stronger and more advanced machines. And if you saw the animatrix the humans started the war and the machines ended it with a cease fire--they realized that humans and machines need each other. The humans "solve" the .1% that reject the matrix and the machines provide the humans infrature for zion; the humans in the matrix provide power for the machines.

There is a cease fire and the machines can't break it because as the architech showed that machines view breaking their word as a human trait--and view humans as inferior (dont know how many times i heard "he's only human" or something like that). Furthermore the humans that want out of the matrix can leave.

This is the only way to resolve the movie so all you that say there was no resolution need to stfu and think for 2 seconds.

 

[jurzdevil]

everything was resolved. it just wasnt done in the way any other director would have done. im sure everyone expected it to end with a major victory over the machines with neo beating every smith up and blowing up the machine city.

what makes the movie so good is that the bad guys (AI) finally win in a movie...against what everyone wants. Its only by chance that the loophole of smith destroying the machines from the inside out can be stopped by a human.

being hyprocitical, i can admit that i would have liked a different ending where neo kicks ass and blah.... but i like this ending too. it makes you stop and think.

now i havent seen any of the lord of the rings so i cant compare it to them but i will just make a guess that the good guys win they way everyone wanted and expected.

 

[BigJelly]

Originally posted by: jurzdevil
everything was resolved. it just wasnt done in the way any other director would have done. im sure everyone expected it to end with a major victory over the machines with neo beating every smith up and blowing up the machine city.

what makes the movie so good is that the bad guys (AI) finally win in a movie...against what everyone wants. Its only by chance that the loophole of smith destroying the machines from the inside out can be stopped by a human.

being hyprocitical, i can admit that i would have liked a different ending where neo kicks ass and blah.... but i like this ending too. it makes you stop and think.

now i havent seen any of the lord of the rings so i cant compare it to them but i will just make a guess that the good guys win they way everyone wanted and expected.

and how

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: MustISO
Yeah, they need another movie just to explain things.

please no

 

[Reliant]

Originally posted by: notfred

The best part of the whole movie was when Neo ran around in a loop on the train tracks.

That is so true. I was laughing so hard at that part.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: BigJelly

Originally posted by: jurzdevil
everything was resolved. it just wasnt done in the way any other director would have done. im sure everyone expected it to end with a major victory over the machines with neo beating every smith up and blowing up the machine city.

what makes the movie so good is that the bad guys (AI) finally win in a movie...against what everyone wants. Its only by chance that the loophole of smith destroying the machines from the inside out can be stopped by a human.

being hyprocitical, i can admit that i would have liked a different ending where neo kicks ass and blah.... but i like this ending too. it makes you stop and think.

now i havent seen any of the lord of the rings so i cant compare it to them but i will just make a guess that the good guys win they way everyone wanted and expected.

and how

Here's a few big problems...

Within the Matrix, Neo is a complete badass. But in the real world, he is merely human. Unfortunately, the story took a turn where the "real world" was no longer realistic. He could all of a sudden, somehow, use mystical powers to destroy sentinals. Lame.

The machines would make a deal with Neo for him to eliminate Agent Smith... But since they only have an interest in their own self-preservation, they would then revert back to using the humans as batteries.


A better ending would've been the more realistic ending. Even the matrix within a matrix theory would've been better.

 

[DOSfan]

Originally posted by: BigJelly

but absolutely nothing resolved

Nothing resolved did you watch the fvcking movie people???

The war is over, no the machines weren't destroyed but look at those defenses for the machines to be destroyed would just be so stupid--an underground force of .25million does what the world couldnt do at full strength against a much stronger and more advanced machines. And if you saw the animatrix the humans started the war and the machines ended it with a cease fire--they realized that humans and machines need each other. The humans "solve" the .1% that reject the matrix and the machines provide the humans infrature for zion; the humans in the matrix provide power for the machines.

There is a cease fire and the machines can't break it because as the architech showed that machines view breaking their word as a human trait--and view humans as inferior (dont know how many times i heard "he's only human" or something like that). Furthermore the humans that want out of the matrix can leave.

This is the only way to resolve the movie so all you that say there was no resolution need to stfu and think for 2 seconds.

That is the problem.

Some of us (myself for one) have not seen the Animatrix.

So that fits with the thought "we need a fourth movie to explain the last two."

We just need to see it.

And frankly, I am a bit dissapointed that we need to see a (relatively) unrelated movie to fill in the gaps of a major budget, full featured, trilogy.

Sounds like way too much hit the cutting room floor.....