I dont want Trumpf impeached...

[JEDI]

So you're predicting something that's never happened before in our 240 yr history? I suggest you try to jump back into the real world.

No US Pres has ever been convicted by the US Senate and removed from office either.
Trumpf will set precedent

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Fixed it for you.

The new DREAMers?

 

[Sea Ray]

No US Pres has ever been convicted by the US Senate and removed from office either.
Trumpf will set precedent

What makes you think if it comes to that that he won't quit like Nixon did?

 

[Pens1566]

What makes you think if it comes to that that he won't quit like Nixon did?

It's not in his personality (disorder) to quit/give up/admit defeat. He simply can't. He's never wrong. It's always someone else's fault. Watch.

 

[mect]

What is it about the left that they can't accept democracy? You lost the election. That means you get four years of a Republican in the White House.

You do know what democracy is, right? And you do realize the president isn't elected democratically, right?

 

[woolfe9998]

First of all Trump says that he's not being investigated.

LOL you're being sarcastic right?

Furthermore there's no evidence that he commited any crimes.

First of all, there is direct evidence of obstruction of justice. Trump admitting last week that he fired Comey over the Russia investigation. An alleged Comey memo which, if true, indicates that Trump asked Comey to kill the investigation of Flynn. You might look into how obstruction is legally defined at the federal level.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1503

It's extremely broad.

So far as collusion with the Russians, there are plenty of suspicious circumstances, otherwise known as circumstantial evidence, or else there wouldn't be several active, pending investigations to begin with. This "no evidence" formulation is absurd. You mean there is no smoking gun, and insufficient evidence to obtain a conviction at this point. Based on what is publicly known so far, I would agree.

If you really are ignorant of the boatloads of suspicious circumstances, which include multiple lies told by Trump and his compatriots in relation to his and his campaign's connections to Russia, then you need to bone up on it. Even a greatly condensed summary of it is beyond the length limitations of forum posts.

This is a dream of the left. If he is convicted, he'll be replaced by another Republican

Of course you would think this is really about whether a D or R is in the oval office. The thing is, people on the left know that Pence would be president (yeah, Jedi is engaging in wishful thinking). And they know that Pence is even more conservative than Trump. Yet they want Trump out of office and would rather have Pence. That should tell you right there that there is something more to this than mere partisanship. We really think Trump is corrupt and totally unfit for office.

 

[UNCjigga]

I guess I'm in no rush for the Axis of Weasels (Pence, Ryan & McConnell) to take over either.

 

[woolfe9998]

I guess I'm in no rush for the Axis of Weasels (Pence, Ryan & McConnell) to take over either.

I'm not all that excited about it either. But Trump is too damaging to the country, particularly with foreign policy. He shouldn't be running our foreign policy. He's dangerous and scary.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It took two years from the time the Watergate burglars were recognized as being affiliated with Nixon's reelection machine to his leaving office. The only reason it didn't take longer is because he resigned.

It's likely that a successful action will follow a similar timeline, assuming Trump quits.

No one should assume this to be "McDonaldified", that is cranking out a meal in a moment or getting Trump out in short order. Meanwhile the election cycle goes on.

 

[Pens1566]

It took two years from the time the Watergate burglars were recognized as being affiliated with Nixon's reelection machine to his leaving office. The only reason it didn't take longer is because he resigned.

It's likely that a successful action will follow a similar timeline, assuming Trump quits.

No one should assume this to be "McDonaldified", that is cranking out a meal in a moment or getting Trump out in short order. Meanwhile the election cycle goes on.

It will occur faster for several reasons. First, we are in a 24/7 immediate news world. 3+ cable news networks blasting breaking news around the clock. Instant internet polling. Twitter. Second, there is a vast difference in experience/intelligence between the Nixon admin and the Trump admin. Nixon was much more savvy in his moves in ways that would take more to unravel. Trump, eh, speaks for itself. Third, this time implications are much more serious. Burglary at a political office is on a much smaller scale than what is being reported or implied here. Hence, much more interest in the case.

It won't be days/weeks, but it's not going to be years. Well maybe, considering the investigations have been ongoing since last summer.

 

[Roflmouth]

No US Pres has ever been convicted by the US Senate and removed from office either.
Trumpf will set precedent

Yes, just as soon as the horrible things he says and does derail his Presidential campaign, ROFL

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I'm not all that excited about it either. But Trump is too damaging to the country, particularly with foreign policy. He shouldn't be running our foreign policy. He's dangerous and scary.

he shouldn't be running an airport newsstand, let alone a country.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It will occur faster for several reasons. First, we are in a 24/7 immediate news world. 3+ cable news networks blasting breaking news around the clock. Instant internet polling. Twitter. Second, there is a vast difference in experience/intelligence between the Nixon admin and the Trump admin. Nixon was much more savvy in his moves in ways that would take more to unravel. Trump, eh, speaks for itself. Third, this time implications are much more serious. Burglary at a political office is on a much smaller scale than what is being reported or implied here. Hence, much more interest in the case.

It won't be days/weeks, but it's not going to be years. Well maybe, considering the investigations have been ongoing since last summer.

You may be right, but there will be one chance and no more. It takes a simple majority in the House and 2/3 of the Senate to impeach. Both houses are controlled by those opposed to impeachment, and the standard is high. Republicans will not turn and eat Trump unless there is compelling and overwhelming evidence unavoidably leading to just cause for removal. In any world, internet notwithstanding, it takes time to construct a box so strong that it a defense has no chance of breaking. That "box" of reasoned and complete detailed evidence is needed to contain Trump and remove him like a skunk in the shed.

If it goes faster and it works? All the better, but best laid plans and all that.

 

[Pens1566]

You may be right, but there will be one chance and no more. It takes a simple majority in the House and 2/3 of the Senate to impeach. Both houses are controlled by those opposed to impeachment, and the standard is high. Republicans will not turn and eat Trump unless there is compelling and overwhelming evidence unavoidably leading to just cause for removal. In any world, internet notwithstanding, it takes time to construct a box so strong that it a defense has no chance of breaking. That "box" of reasoned and complete detailed evidence is needed to contain Trump and remove him like a skunk in the shed.

If it goes faster and it works? All the better, but best laid plans and all that.

Agree. One shot. Until '18 (or '19 if you want to get technical). Although I think it will be easier than you point out. I think their collective hand will get forced by info that can't be ignored.

Interesting that Rosenstein is briefing the entire Senate tomorrow in a closed setting. Hmm ... I'm sure it's nothing.

 

[Jaskalas]

What makes you think if it comes to that that he won't quit like Nixon did?

Nixon was a much better man.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Nixon was a much better man.

He was and far more competent. I think the behaviors he exhibited then could be treated now. A whole and competent person is what we need.

 

[Jaskalas]

Republicans will not turn and eat Trump unless...

*cough *cough
Mitt Romney: Trump 'A con man, a fake' [FULL SPEECH]

#Nevertrump and #Pence2018 are STRONG motivations. Don't forget 2016 and how Trump stormed through the Republicans.
He's not one of them, he used and abused them... he is hiding behind them now but they are not united. They are divided.
First chance to stab him in the back they'll take it. The future for Republicans is about limiting the damage Trump can do.

They are motivated to impeach him, they are merely waiting for an opportune moment.

 

[xthetenth]

Eight years of this shit, daily. lol

It's either going to be four or fewer or indefinite.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

*cough *cough
Mitt Romney: Trump 'A con man, a fake' [FULL SPEECH]

#Nevertrump and #Pence2018 are STRONG motivations. Don't forget 2016 and how Trump stormed through the Republicans.
He's not one of them, he used and abused them... he is hiding behind them now but they are not united. They are divided.
First chance to stab him in the back they'll take it. The future for Republicans is about limiting the damage Trump can do.

They are motivated to impeach him, they are merely waiting for an opportune moment.

I'm entirely disagreeing since after all the Republican machine didn't want Trump for a candidate. They have to make it look good though so they can say the did the right thing and not tossing Trump under a bus, even if that's true. That opportune moment as you say.

 

[zinfamous]

You have no grounds or justification for Pence. He's no Donald.

Probably. I think the only way that Pence could be dragged under is if the campaign machinations with Russia turns up a pile of dirt, thus casting the air of illegitmacy over the entire campaign. I don't think that could ever happen though--US people legitimately voted for whom they voted for. But if Pence takes over and Dems manage to sweep Congress, it wouldn't really matter if Pence is up there to finish out ~3 years. He would be powerless, just as God intended.

 

[Theb]

I hope Trump has time to turn the "friggin frogs" back into heterosexuals before he is impeached.

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm entirely disagreeing since after all the Republican machine didn't want Trump for a candidate. They have to make it look good though so they can say the did the right thing and not tossing Trump under a bus, even if that's true. That opportune moment as you say.

They need to detach the loyalty of their base from Trump before they can do anything, otherwise they'll get annihilated at election time. That's a very tall order. Even if impeached & convicted he probably won't fade like Nixon, either.

The notion that Congressional Repubs will do the right thing for the right reasons is absurd. They have neither the courage or the conviction to the principles of democracy & good governance to do so.

 

[woolfe9998]

You may be right, but there will be one chance and no more. It takes a simple majority in the House and 2/3 of the Senate to impeach. Both houses are controlled by those opposed to impeachment, and the standard is high. Republicans will not turn and eat Trump unless there is compelling and overwhelming evidence unavoidably leading to just cause for removal. In any world, internet notwithstanding, it takes time to construct a box so strong that it a defense has no chance of breaking. That "box" of reasoned and complete detailed evidence is needed to contain Trump and remove him like a skunk in the shed.

If it goes faster and it works? All the better, but best laid plans and all that.

I agree, and would point out that in regard to the Nixon comparison, they didn't pass the committee vote to impeach until they had him dead to rights on like 10 different things. There was firing officials investigating him, witness bribery and tampering, ordering the break in itself, etc. Many of those things were proven by the tapes. Yet even there the majority of republicans voted against impeachment in that committee. Fortunately enough repubs voted for it to pass.

There is simply no chance the repubs will vote to impeach based on what we have so far. There's going to have to be more. Possibly quite a bit more.

 

[jackstar7]

Aim higher. I'm guessing at some point Pence will be implicated in all the shenanigans.

BY TRUMP!

He's going to take 'em all down if he's going down.

 

[JEDI]

BY TRUMP!

He's going to take 'em all down if he's going down.

thus a Dem Pres in 2019 due to Speaker of House succession rule