I don't want to die

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Lifer
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The trouble is, if you live forever then, presumably, you are logically going to experience _everything_ that can conceivably be experienced. Over an eternity every possible situation is going to occur, surely?

And personally I can conceive of an almost unlimited number of horrible experiences. The prospect of experiencing every possible good one doesn't make up for the horror of facing every possible nightmarish one.
 

KB

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I think its a lot more complicated than fixing a few genes, otherwise it would be done already There are no genes for death in the human body. No genes say this is how we age and die. Instead we would have to add/improve genes that provide mechanisms for DNA repair. Cells already have a variety of cell repair mechanisms that they have developed over billions of years. It can be difficult to build something better in 20 years than something that was built over billions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_repair#DNA_repair_mechanisms
 

Newell Steamer

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Death is just as much a part of life, as life is a part of death.

We live and die every second of our existence. Cells are created, cells perish. Ideas are created, ideas are destroyed. And on and on, until we entirely stop existing - with only our DNA (children) and legend (ideas) continuing on,... that is how we become immortal. No other way I am afraid.

There is nothing we can ever really do about it.

Also, if we were to divert anything, I would prefer those resources to be focused on the quality of life - not making sure someone like Hitler can live for 1,000 years.
 

IEC

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I think its a lot more complicated than fixing a few genes, otherwise it would be done already There are no genes for death in the human body. No genes say this is how we age and die. Instead we would have to add/improve genes that provide mechanisms for DNA repair. Cells already have a variety of cell repair mechanisms that they have developed over billions of years. It can be difficult to build something better in 20 years than something that was built over billions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_repair#DNA_repair_mechanisms

There are already cells which can avoid programmed cell death. They are cancer cells.

They have this nasty habit of killing their host, though. Which kills them eventually.
 

alkemyst

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Most of you may as well as be dead anyway.

In reality, we couldn't sustain living forever. There would need to be some cut off that ends another's life on this planet. My bet it would come down to wealth and value to society.
 

Bubbleawsome

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Capt. Jack Harkness.
Image living, dying, and coming back though. Hit by a train? Back a couple minutes later. People would start parachute-less skydiving.
 

Feneant2

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I want to die, why would you want to live forever?

After 1 generation of 'curing' death there will be mass overpopulation, lack of jobs, wars over resources, etc. it would be the greatest catastrophy ever, we'd need culling meaning the 1% would start deciding who dies, bla bla bla.
 

moonbogg

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Capt. Jack Harkness.
Image living, dying, and coming back though. Hit by a train? Back a couple minutes later. People would start parachute-less skydiving.

I want to die, why would you want to live forever?

After 1 generation of 'curing' death there will be mass overpopulation, lack of jobs, wars over resources, etc. it would be the greatest catastrophy ever, we'd need culling meaning the 1% would start deciding who dies, bla bla bla.

The blue is the solution to your overpopulation issues. We bring people back after going to another planet. Then we stick the DVD labeled "people" into the flesh machine and it spits out all the assholes that ever lived. Does that sound like a good idea? Imagine bringing all those idiots back? Living really long might be a good thing and it will probably happen, but not for us.
I want wings, bitches. Or winged bitches, whichever comes first.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
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No, we should either accept the cruciform or, we can just ask the Howard families how they have done it.
 

bunnyfubbles

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solving the death of our mortal bodies is one hurdle, but we'd still have to figure out to how to solve the death of our universe, although that's likely trillions+ of years off, so we'd have plenty of time to solve that little problem, although in the relative near term we'll have much less time to either refuel or somehow stabilize the sun or move out of the solar system in the next billion years or two

but on timescales that large 'we' wouldn't be human anymore, likely conquering natural selection and expediting evolution on our own terms


I want to die, why would you want to live forever?

After 1 generation of 'curing' death there will be mass overpopulation, lack of jobs, wars over resources, etc. it would be the greatest catastrophy ever, we'd need culling meaning the 1% would start deciding who dies, bla bla bla.

no more need to reproduce if we're immortal

if we can cure death we can cure the biological urge/desire to procreate

although I will admit that population control is already a problem that is approaching critical mass as-is (ie Africa/India, etc need to stop unchecked reproduction yesterday)

also, immortality means the brilliant amongst the population have more time to solve problems, and that those with slower minds have more time to learn as well
 

IronWing

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if we can cure death we can cure the biological urge/desire to procreate

They are imtimately entwined. Asexual bacteria are immortal. They can be killed but otherwise they just go on and on. Death is the price we pay for sex. Seems like a fair tradeoff.
 

moonbogg

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They are imtimately entwined. Asexual bacteria are immortal. They can be killed but otherwise they just go on and on. Death is the price we pay for sex. Seems like a fair tradeoff.

You too eh? How long married?