I don't understand why this neighborhood does not want a Trader Joe's

[brainhulk]

http://news.yahoo.com/trader-joe-39-drops-black-neighborhood-store-plan-224732374.html

They have cookie butter! !??? Resistance is futile

 

[FleshLight]

They don't want the neighborhood to become gentrified, thus raising property values and driving the "oppressed populations" out.

 

[Gunbuster]

Does TJ's not carry purple drank?

 

[Rakehellion]

Fuck Trader Joe's.

 

[KeithTalent]

They don't want the neighborhood to become gentrified, thus raising property values and driving the "oppressed populations" out.

Yep. There are protesters that show up at any of the new semi-fancy restaurants in my neighbourhood here. It's annoying and the problem is the protesters have no idea what they are talking about (we've spoken to them).

KT

 

[surfsatwerk]

Fuck Trader Joe's.

Show me on the doll where Joe touched you.

 

[HN]

They seem to be unsure of using Black or African-American in that article.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Yep. There are protesters that show up at any of the new semi-fancy restaurants in my neighbourhood here. It's annoying and the problem is the protesters have no idea what they are talking about (we've spoken to them).

KT

Please don't make the neighborhood nicer!!! It will attract jobs and people will live better lives. We prefer to be miserable!

 

[PottedMeat]

<3 trader joes, nearby businesses not so much

Trader Joe's is based in Monrovia, Calif. Its store would have been the anchor of a two-building development that included space for four to 10 shops and 100 parking spaces.

that one trader joes should have 50 parking spots by itself

Please don't make the neighborhood nicer!!! It will attract jobs and people will live better lives. We prefer to be miserable!

the one in ft worth attracted other jobs too - the adjoining plaza hired some guy to sit in a car to keep trader joes shoppers out of their parking lot :awe:

 

[nehalem256]

If we give blacks access to jobs and quality food who knows what will happen^_^





I was waiting to see who would post the first racist post.


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[Exterous]

:hmm:

The lot is at Northeast Alberta Street and Northeast Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and has been vacant for years.

It sent the city a letter saying it (The Portland African American Leadership Forum) would "remain opposed to any development in N/NE Portland that does not primarily benefit the Black community." It said the grocery-store development would "increase the desirability of the neighborhood," for "non-oppressed populations."

Well - keep your vacant lot then I guess. I'm not sure how that benefits your 'oppressed population' though...

I am guessing the stores they have in the area are your Walmart types because I honestly don't find Trader Joe's to be that expensive for a lot of items. Maybe its just the area but their cheese, wine (Two Buck Chuck anyone?) and Trader Joe brand stuff is often cheaper than what I can get at my local Kroger or Meijers

 

[zinfamous]

Please don't make the neighborhood nicer!!! It will attract jobs and people will live better lives. We prefer to be miserable!

Please think of the hipsters!

 

[zinfamous]

I am guessing the stores they have in the area are your Walmart types because I honestly don't find Trader Joe's to be that expensive for a lot of items. Maybe its just the area but their cheese, wine (Two Buck Chuck anyone?) and Trader Joe brand stuff is often cheaper than what I can get at my local Kroger or Meijers

exactly. it makes no fucking sense. TJ specializes in pre-prepared meals that are actually quite decent, and very cheap. This is far better quality food than any "oppressed community" generally has access to, and is generally quite affordable.

 

[Wreckem]

:hmm:





Well - keep your vacant lot then I guess. I'm not sure how that benefits your 'oppressed population' though...

I am guessing the stores they have in the area are your Walmart types because I honestly don't find Trader Joe's to be that expensive for a lot of items. Maybe its just the area but their cheese, wine (Two Buck Chuck anyone?) and Trader Joe brand stuff is often cheaper than what I can get at my local Kroger or Meijers

For most goods, Trader Joe's is usually cheaper than Walmart or any other grocery store because it mostly(95%+) sales private label goods. Trader Joe's is the high end Aldi, well because its owned by Aldi. I wish Trader Joes would expand as much as Aldi has.

 

[Red Storm]

In some situations I can understand where the people that live in these neighborhoods don't like such things because it ends up raising the cost of living to the point where they have to move out.

In this particular case though, it's just being dumb. I guess it's harder to claim oppression when improvements are made where you live.

 

[destrekor]

We don't have any TJ's around here, and I do wish we did. I've heard much good about the own-branded items.

Seriously, this is the most asinine thing I've read today:

It sent the city a letter saying it would "remain opposed to any development in N/NE Portland that does not primarily benefit the Black community." It said the grocery-store development would "increase the desirability of the neighborhood," for "non-oppressed populations."

How is any of that a bad thing? Do black people prefer to be poor and confined to poor urban neighborhoods with lackluster everything? Do they not want to become mixed in with the rest of the society, to be middle-class or better and no longer segregated?

Are these black community forums somehow encouraging self-oppression? To what end? To perpetuate the idea that they are forced to be confined to poor neighborhoods? To what end? Oh... free handouts. Must be that. You don't get free handouts, and rather, have to work for a living, if you suddenly find yourself in a better position in life.
Jesus that is depressing. I hope it's not that simple.

 

[Drako]

Portland African American Leadership Forum: It sent the city a letter saying it would "remain opposed to any development in N/NE Portland that does not primarily benefit the Black community." It said the grocery-store development would "increase the desirability of the neighborhood," for "non-oppressed populations."

OK :|

Makes sense - lets keep the neighborhood as shitty as possible so no one wants to live here. :biggrin:

 

[dainthomas]

They don't want the neighborhood to become gentrified, thus raising property values and driving the "oppressed populations" out.

To be fair, the actual people from the neighborhood wanted it. It was another group from elsewhere in the city who had a bug up their ass about the city building low income housing there who bitched loud enough to torpedo it.

 

[BurnItDwn]

<3 trader joes, nearby businesses not so much



that one trader joes should have 50 parking spots by itself



the one in ft worth attracted other jobs too - the adjoining plaza hired some guy to sit in a car to keep trader joes shoppers out of their parking lot :awe:

Yea, that kinda sucks.
If they are not in a strip mall with giant huge infinite parking, they really need to plan for bigger parking lots...

 

[akahoovy]

Are these black community forums somehow encouraging self-oppression? To what end? To perpetuate the idea that they are forced to be confined to poor neighborhoods? To what end? Oh... free handouts. Must be that. You don't get free handouts, and rather, have to work for a living, if you suddenly find yourself in a better position in life.
Jesus that is depressing. I hope it's not that simple.

I believe that's a symptom, yes.

I haven't been to a TJ's, but I think there's one near me. I'll go have a look.

 

[zinfamous]

How is any of that a bad thing? Do black people prefer to be poor and confined to poor urban neighborhoods with lackluster everything? Do they not want to become mixed in with the rest of the society, to be middle-class or better and no longer segregated?

Are these black community forums somehow encouraging self-oppression? To what end? To perpetuate the idea that they are forced to be confined to poor neighborhoods? To what end? Oh... free handouts. Must be that. You don't get free handouts, and rather, have to work for a living, if you suddenly find yourself in a better position in life.
Jesus that is depressing. I hope it's not that simple.

Yes

 

[HardcoreRobot]

appraised for 2.9m but vacant for years? hmmm time to get new appraisers maybe.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I go to one fairly often. I usually buy everything but meat and veggies there. For that I go to Costco.

 

[nageov3t]

Please don't make the neighborhood nicer!!! It will attract jobs and people will live better lives. We prefer to be miserable!

if you're a renter, making the neighborhood nicer isn't going to do much other than price you out of your house and force you to find a new place to live within your budget.

 

[Golgatha]

I fail to see the logic that potentially increased property values would contribute to low-income (i.e. subsidized) housing becoming unaffordable for the minority residents living in that neighborhood. Might cost the government more, but if affluent people are spending more money there, I would think the extra tax base would make up for the money gap.