I don't understand this motion sickness associated with Cloverfield

state 08

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I didn't experience it, and it confuses me how one can.

Does it generally happen to a older demographic, or just anyone?
 

monk3y

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I actually think I might be one of the people that might experience it. I always have problems with rides like the Body Wars ride at Epcot. It's only the rides where there's like 50-100 people in a room and the whole room shakes/tilts side to side. I end up getting a headache after it (I imagine it would become more than that if the rides were really long).
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: state 08
I didn't experience it, and it confuses me how one can.

Does it generally happen to a older demographic, or just anyone?
do you get carsick or seasick at all?
 

state 08

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I don't get car/seasick, but I can understand those two because there's physical motion involved.
 

bignateyk

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I think the cause of motion sickness is when there is a difference in what your brain expects, and what you actually experience (I think something in the ears detects motion)
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: state 08
I don't get car/seasick, but I can understand those two because there's physical motion involved.
yeh, but those people have more of a tendency to have their sense of balance thrown off (which makes them ill or seize) even just by viewing something going in fast motion or moving erratically.

epileptics are having trouble with this movie too. i know of someone who had a seizure because of it, but she is an epileptic.
 

Pheran

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Originally posted by: state 08
I don't get car/seasick, but I can understand those two because there's physical motion involved.
That doesn't matter - the problem is caused by a difference in perceived motion versus actual motion. In the car/ship case, there is actual motion but little or no perceived motion, depending on what your eyes are focused on. In the Cloverfield case, there is perceived motion but no actual motion. In either case, this disagreement between the visual and balance systems causes problems for some people. There's more info on Wikipedia.
 

toekramp

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i don't get car/seasick and i had to look away for several moments several times because i became so nauseous
 

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Originally posted by: state 08
I didn't experience it, and it confuses me how one can.

Does it generally happen to a older demographic, or just anyone?

Kinda same here.

I don't understand it either, & am surprised that it seems like nearly half the people watching it are affected by it.

Personally, the camera movement is annoying, but in no way makes me remotely close to sick.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: toekramp
i don't get car/seasick and i had to look away for several moments several times because i became so nauseous

can you read in a car... like a book? or can you just read for a little while before having to look back up?

i don't get carsick either, but i can't read for a long time in a vehicle or i start to feel off. so i guess by doing that i prevent carsickness.
 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: toekramp
i don't get car/seasick and i had to look away for several moments several times because i became so nauseous

can you read in a car... like a book? or can you just read for a little while before having to look back up?

i don't get carsick either, but i can't read for a long time in a vehicle or i start to feel off. so i guess by doing that i prevent carsickness.

ya reading in a car for any period of time doesn't make me feel too hot. i'm more into the books on tape/cd now :)
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: toekramp
i don't get car/seasick and i had to look away for several moments several times because i became so nauseous

can you read in a car... like a book? or can you just read for a little while before having to look back up?

i don't get carsick either, but i can't read for a long time in a vehicle or i start to feel off. so i guess by doing that i prevent carsickness.

ya reading in a car for any period of time doesn't make me feel too hot. i'm more into the books on tape/cd now :)
i feel ya. :p

 

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I'm much less susceptible to it, but I think we all are on some level. I believe it occurs most often when the screen is large enough to cover the majority of the user's vision, preventing the user from having a visual fixed reference point to anchor themselves. I would have imagined the inner ear would have corrected this, but I guess vision can override that mechanism. This is very apparent in certain fun house attractions, where the user walks on a fixed platform through the center of a spinning tube - like walking through a kaleidoscope. As an outsider, it's amusing to watch the people walking through, stumbling like a drunk, even though the platform is unmoving. But as the person walking through, knowing that it's all an optical illusion, it's strange how you still can't force yourself to walk straight.

My gf and I actually went to the theater and bought tickets to Cloverfield before we noticed the sign about motion sickness. My gf gets affected by movies with shaky cameras. She got ill and had a headache in the middle of Bourne Ultimatum. Although sitting in the back of the theater helps (so it doesn't fill your vision), we ended up exchanging the tickets for re-admit passes.
 

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its a two-way street. theres a discontinuity with how your brain perceives movement and how your balance system perceives movement. if you watch something like cloverfield or blair witch, you can get motion sick by just sitting still. likewise, if you read a book on a train or a moving car, you can get motion sick. ever notice how people never get motion sick when they drive a car, but can become motion sick when they are the passengers? its because when they are driving, their brains and balance system are experiencing the same things.
 

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Originally posted by: state 08
I don't get car/seasick, but I can understand those two because there's physical motion involved.

physical motion doesn't have to be involved...

if you are inside a carwash, the motion of the rollers as they go from front to the back your car generate a sense of motion even though you are standing still.
 

rh71

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Do you experience sickness from FPS games? I used to but got used to it and it didn't happen anymore. It's definitely a brain thing. <-- states the obvious.
 

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I don't experience motion sickness unless I read in a car (or if I'm in a crowded back seat with a strong air freshener in the vehicle for some reason), but I remember a few of my friends couldn't even handle watching me play the hoverboat portion of Half-Life 2.
 

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ive never been carsick/seasick i can read books in cars and boats just fine, dont get sick on things like rollercoasters or any of that, Blair Witch made me vomit because of the fing parkinson's camera work, im sure cloverfiled will do the same which is why i prob wont watch it
 

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I would say that I'm more prone to it than most. I can't read in the car at all. Even just reading all the signs that you see going down the road can give me problems.

I'm not sure if I would get sick from the movie or not, though. That would be kinda weird.
 

PetunZ

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I normally get car sick really easily. But for some reason, I was fine throughout the movie. A friend of mine got really sick, he closed his eyes, and actually fell asleep haha. My other friend was fine with it though. I think it depends on how engrossed you are with the movie.
 

Leros

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I haven't seen cloverfield. But I can't play first person video games anymore. Ever since they started looking more real, I puke or get really nauseous.
 

Drakkon

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I used to not be effected at all then all the sudden everything that has movement - from FPS to movies with shakey cams - will make me get a headache or feel woozy. But i can still be on a boat or in a car and be just fine.
 
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Nope, it's just an individual thing. It's why so many people can't stand the second and third Bournes. Shakey cam makes movies unwatchable to a large number of people. I don't just mean we don't like it, it cannot be watched.

My brother is one, and couldn't ever watch the regal cinemas opening short with the roller coaster thing. Gave him instant vertigo. He has no motion sickness issues however.