I don't understand addictions.

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moshquerade

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I do have a craving for vag right now, but meh, probably by around 9-10 that should be alleviated.

Behaviors associated with sexual addiction include:

* Compulsive masturbation (self-stimulation)
* Multiple affairs (extra-marital affairs)
* Multiple or anonymous sexual partners and/or one-night stands
* Consistent use of pornography
* Unsafe sex
* Phone or computer sex (cybersex)
* Prostitution or use of prostitutes
* Exhibitionism
* Obsessive dating through personal ads
* Voyeurism (watching others) and/or stalking
* Sexual harassment
* Molestation/rape
 

F1N3ST

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Behaviors associated with sexual addiction include:

* Compulsive masturbation (self-stimulation)
* Multiple affairs (extra-marital affairs)
* Multiple or anonymous sexual partners and/or one-night stands
* Consistent use of pornography
* Unsafe sex
* Phone or computer sex (cybersex)
* Prostitution or use of prostitutes
* Exhibitionism
* Obsessive dating through personal ads
* Voyeurism (watching others) and/or stalking
* Sexual harassment
* Molestation/rape

How many of these do I need to have to qualify to be addicted? I have like 1-2 of these.
 

nageov3t

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How many of these do I need to have to qualify to be addicted? I have like 1-2 of these.
I think there are huge differences between wanting to have a lot of sex versus banging anything that moves no matter how ugly or how it might affect your other relationships just because you need to get your rocks off.

I always assumed that life impact was a major part of determining addiction. like, I play a lot of WoW, but I play because I have nothing else to do. I'd otherwise be spending the time watching tv, reading, playing on my xbox, etc.

when my sister played WoW, she was in a whole different league... she'd blow off friends to play, make up stuff to leave family functions early to make raid start times, etc.
 

F1N3ST

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I think there are huge differences between wanting to have a lot of sex versus banging anything that moves no matter how ugly or how it might affect your other relationships just because you need to get your rocks off.

I always assumed that life impact was a major part of determining addiction. like, I play a lot of WoW, but I play because I have nothing else to do. I'd otherwise be spending the time watching tv, reading, playing on my xbox, etc.

when my sister played WoW, she was in a whole different league... she'd blow off friends to play, make up stuff to leave family functions early to make raid start times, etc.

My sister began playing WoW in college, came home for 2 weeks, played WoW basically 2 weeks straight, blowing people off..

I've never played WoW, but I did used to play RuneScape D:
 

Sust

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For the OP if still following his/her own thread, start here and then reinforce here.
Basic science is still battling to figure out how addiction makes its mark on the brain in a very permanent fashion for most but not all comers. Continue watching and waiting for someone to figure out how to prevent environment-related drug cues from becoming so overwhelmingly salient and easy to flip on such that they lose control even years after theyve stopped taking the drug. This is the next big step b/c we can clean up anyone in the acute stage, but the key is stopping the painful cycle from repeating over and over again(and costing the system mucho dinero).
 

AMCRambler

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Addicts will say the same the thing. I can stop whenever I want to. Problem is once you start, you never want to stop. The only thing in everyday life you can compare it to is probably smoking or tobacco products. People say oh I'm addicted to chocolate or ice cream but they're not really. Take up smoking for a 3 months and then try and quit if you want to experience addiction.
 

kalrith

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I can quit doing anything whenever I want.

I think my morals thing comes from not fucking doing heroin in the first place lol.

Does not compute. If you can quit anything whenever you want, then there's no reason to worry about trying heroine, meth, cocaine, etc. several times since one day you'll just say, "I'm never doing that again," and your uber-superior willpower will overcome all obstacles.
 

ShawnD1

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Does not compute. If you can quit anything whenever you want, then there's no reason to worry about trying heroine, meth, cocaine, etc. several times since one day you'll just say, "I'm never doing that again," and your uber-superior willpower will overcome all obstacles.

Again, I hate to break this to you, but that is how it works.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/concern/cocaine_factsheet.html
Who uses cocaine?

* Cocaine is the second most commonly used illicit drug in the United States.
* About 10 percent of Americans over the age of 12 have tried cocaine at least once in their lifetime, about 2 percent have tried crack, and nearly one percent is currently using cocaine.


Over 10% have used cocaine before, but only 1% are addicted? So its addiction is only 1 in 10? Yeah, that willpower is totally worthless when it comes to stopping cocaine.... except in the 90% of cases when willpower works just fine.
 
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techlover2

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You want to know what an addiction feels like?

Don't eat anything for 2 days straight or sleep for 2 days straight. That feeling you get is a lot like what withdrawal feels like - you're in withdrawal from food and sleep.

When someone is addicted to something, they need it.
 

kalrith

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Again, I hate to break this to you, but that is how it works.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/concern/cocaine_factsheet.html



Over 10% have used cocaine before, but only 1% are addicted? So its addiction is only 1 in 10? Yeah, that willpower is totally worthless when it comes to stopping cocaine.... except in the 90% of cases when willpower works just fine.

I hate to break this to you, but trying once and stopping is different than doing it every day for months and then using willpower to overcome the addiction.
 

logo908

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Theres people making good points in this thread, but also ALOT of 'wrong', and ignorance. Dependence to certain substances, in my opinion, can be inevitable. It's biochemistry, when you put X in your body, a new chemical/biological state Y will be produced etc. Eventually, (and the thing is, 'eventually', will be a different period of time depending on your body) but eventually the new state will become closer to the norm, which can be very, very shitty.

An example is alcohol. It increases a a molecule called GABA. GABA inhibits your nervous system. Slows everything down. Drink enough and elevated levels of this molecule will become the closer to the norm for you. Now when you're not drunk your GABA levels are much lower compared to the state your used to. Since it's affect is to slow/modulate your nervous system, an absence of it can do very fucking scary things. Basically your nervous system goes crazy in it's uninhibited/low GABA state, neurons firing uncontrollably etc.

The result, depending on the severity of the condition, can be seizures, hallucinations, coma, death... Read about peoples stories of "Delirium Tremens", something that happens to around 15% of alcoholics who try and quit. The stories are sometimes fucking terrifying. People seeing spiders crawling over them, shaking uncontrollably, seizing, feeling like their heart may just stop....

Quitting an addiction has more to it than fucking willpower. In this case willpower alone, without trained medical staff and equipment, may just get you killed.