I don't trust my current LAN

DietDrThunder

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Currently I have 1 desktop, collecting parts for building two more desktops, and a wireless laptop which will be all on the same home network. My problem is I don't trust the security on my U-Verse 2WIRE router. I had an earlier problem on this router in which it would not let me modify a setting in order to setup my home LAN, so I had to talk to U-Verse's tech support. They said, "Sure, we can fix that for you, give me one minute, then push the rest button on the back of the router." Well it fixed the problem, but I don't like ANYONE having access to my router, which can then access my home LAN.

This is what I'd like to do, and let me know if it is feasable:

1) Set up a LAN using my Linksys WRT54GL Wireless-G Broadband Router

2) Then connect the Linksys router to the UVerse 2WIRE router.

3) Configure all PCs to only have 60GB SDD's for applications and OS

4) Build a Raid 1 server and have all sensitive data stored on the server drives (how do I isolate this server from the outside world?)

Any instructions on how to connect these two routers without causing conflicts would be greatly appreciated.
 

deimos3428

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1) Set up a LAN using my Linksys WRT54GL Wireless-G Broadband Router

2) Then connect the Linksys router to the UVerse 2WIRE router.
Yes, you can do that. Turn off the wireless on the 2WIRE, and connect the WAN port of the Linksys into the 2WIRE. Then setup the Linksys to provide DHCP and/or NAT for the LAN as desired and configure internally however you like.
 

imagoon

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1) Set up a LAN using my Linksys WRT54GL Wireless-G Broadband Router

Configure the 2WIRE for bridge (call ATT they can often do this for you.) Configure the WRT as wanted. Since your not specific, I can't be either.

2) Then connect the Linksys router to the UVerse 2WIRE router.

RJ45 Patch cord will do it.

3) Configure all PCs to only have 60GB SDD's for applications and OS

Irrelevant to networking. Do what ever you want.

4) Build a Raid 1 server and have all sensitive data stored on the server drives (how do I isolate this server from the outside world?)

From the networking perspective, you would rely on either your firewall or NAT box to prevent general outside access, no different than a home PC. Don't open any ports or translations to the server and it will be pretty isolated. Keep it patched so that should an internal machine get exploited you don't find your server also exploited.

Remember that RAID1 (or any RAID) is not a backup method, just a way to improve up time.
 

Narumi

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My problem is I don't trust the security on my U-Verse 2WIRE router.


I can understand this, but at the same time let me explain a few things about what the uverse techs do. Under the agreement, which I as many others do not fully read :D , they cannot access your router unless given permission by the customer (you). I've been on the phone countless times with uverse techs and they always ask me for permission to access the gateway so that they can diagnose it. All transmissions are logged as well and some tech can't just decide to log into his account and mess with you because it would be logged and he would get tracked down. On one occasion a tech did do something I didn't give permission to do, I got a manager on the line and they said sorry and I got a few credits out of it.

If your still worried then you can do the following like you planned


1) Set up a LAN using my Linksys WRT54GL Wireless-G Broadband Router

You can do this but there are a few settings that you will need to set and possibly put the router on a DMZ as well as turning off the router behind router option in the 2wire.
Also, since you have Uverse as you have said you CANNOT put the gateway into bridge mode. This is due to the gateway serving all services to you home internet/video/voice and at this point is not possible unless you are getting a business internet only line.


2) Then connect the Linksys router to the UVerse 2WIRE router.

patch cord as others have said
 

DietDrThunder

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My problem is I don't trust the security on my U-Verse 2WIRE router.


I can understand this, but at the same time let me explain a few things about what the uverse techs do. Under the agreement, which I as many others do not fully read :D , they cannot access your router unless given permission by the customer (you). I've been on the phone countless times with uverse techs and they always ask me for permission to access the gateway so that they can diagnose it. All transmissions are logged as well and some tech can't just decide to log into his account and mess with you because it would be logged and he would get tracked down. On one occasion a tech did do something I didn't give permission to do, I got a manager on the line and they said sorry and I got a few credits out of it.

If your still worried then you can do the following like you planned


1) Set up a LAN using my Linksys WRT54GL Wireless-G Broadband Router

You can do this but there are a few settings that you will need to set and possibly put the router on a DMZ as well as turning off the router behind router option in the 2wire.
Also, since you have Uverse as you have said you CANNOT put the gateway into bridge mode. This is due to the gateway serving all services to you home internet/video/voice and at this point is not possible unless you are getting a business internet only line.


2) Then connect the Linksys router to the UVerse 2WIRE router.

patch cord as others have said

Nurami,

Thanks for the input. Luckilly for me, I only have the UVerse 2WIRE router doing internet only. The UVerse picture quality sucked compared to my non-HD DirecTV subscription. So I called to cancel and they sent out a tech, who couldn't improve the picture quality. I even showed the tech the difference in quality since I hadn't cancelled my DirecTV and could easilly switch between the two. After two days of him fiddling with it, I called to cancel UVerse, but instead of them switching me back to my DSL modem, they said that they would cancel the TV service and I could still use UVerse as my internet provider. I never changed my phone line over to UVerse, so my phone line is as it always was, my TV is connected to DirecTV, and my internet is UVerse in which I pay $30 a month, no taxes (the taxes are on the line are on the phone bill), for the "Elite" 6Mbps download.
 
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Narumi

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Luckilly for me, I only have the UVerse 2WIRE router doing internet only. The UVerse picture quality sucked compared to my non-HD DirecTV subscription. So I called to cancel and they sent out a tech, who couldn't improve the picture quality. I even showed the tech the difference in quality since I hadn't cancelled my DirecTV and could easilly switch between the two. After two days of him fiddling with it, I called to cancel UVerse, but instead of them switching me back to my DSL modem, they said that they would cancel the TV service and I could still use UVerse as my internet provider. I never changed my phone line over to UVerse, so my phone line is as it always was, my TV is connected to DirecTV, and my internet is UVerse in which I pay $30 a month, no taxes (the taxes are on the line are on the phone bill), for the "Elite" 6Mbps download.

Your welcome, just trying to do my part for the forums ^_^

Yeah unfortunately ATT uses a crazy compression rate to feed their HD video through and it does have an impact. Though I had somewhat of a similar problem, but when I went from HDMI to component the picture looked a lot better. I think it has to do something with the boxes which are moto or cisco but all in all have the same hardware.

ATT tends to do the you keep uverse internet instead of going back to DSL bit a lot these days. In any case sames rules apply. Set it up as you wish with the settings mentioned, though honestly not having a bridge mode on the gateway is a PITA not to mention the 2wires are horrible in both firmware and hardware wise. Only 1024 simultanous connections. In any case just rambling about Uverse here, good luck on your setup.