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I don't think she's going to make it

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Originally posted by: dakels
I can't believe her UTI got so bad without treatment. So sad.
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Yeah, terrible quality of care from the hospital. I don't know how they would miss a UTI, should be one of the things tested when complaining with those symptoms. I mean, in the process of determining it to be kidney stones, wouldn't they have discovered it was in fact a UTI?
Terrible. 🙁


Originally posted by: wota
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Very sad. 🙁

Even if she survived, who would want to live like that? No kidneys means a lifetime of dialysis + no hands or feet. Poor gal is better off dead.
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I like your spirit, we should euthanize all amputees and handicapped. :thumbsup:
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While compuwiz shouldn't have gone so far as to say she is 'better off dead', I'd feel the same way in such a situation.

If I cannot live by my own means, I don't want to live. I'm extremely old fashioned when it comes to my health. If I have to live by means of a machine and don't have the same control over my life due to amputations and artificial limbs... I wouldn't want that life. If I woke up one day like that, sure I wouldn't go and off myself, but I'd be miserable, especially since everything I want to do in life requires a self-supporting body.

I'd hate to tell family members it, but if I was going in for treatment of such nature, I'd say just make me comfortable and let me go instead of hacking me up inside and out.

I don't want to live a life of reliance on artificial equipment, or on others for that matter. If I cannot take care of myself in every situation, I'd feel like a worthless human being. In nature I'd die, so in life I should die.

I won't wish that upon others, and everyone has a different attitude towards life. Just explaining how I can see compu's reasoning, as it is basically the same as mine.
 
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Perknose
She placed sixth in the Miss Bikini International competition in China last year and took first place for the "Best in Swimsuit" category.
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Huh?
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6th overall?
IDK.
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But, but, it's the Miss Bikini competition . . . what other category besides "Best in Swimsuit" would possibly matter? :shocked: 😉


 
i just hope she's not feeling too much pain, and in her last moments, she'll get to see all her family and friends. poor kid,
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: wota
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Very sad. 🙁

Even if she survived, who would want to live like that? No kidneys means a lifetime of dialysis + no hands or feet. Poor gal is better off dead.
rose.gif
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I like your spirit, we should euthanize all amputees and handicapped. :thumbsup:
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While compuwiz shouldn't have gone so far as to say she is 'better off dead', I'd feel the same way in such a situation.

If I cannot live by my own means, I don't want to live. I'm extremely old fashioned when it comes to my health. If I have to live by means of a machine and don't have the same control over my life due to amputations and artificial limbs... I wouldn't want that life. If I woke up one day like that, sure I wouldn't go and off myself, but I'd be miserable, especially since everything I want to do in life requires a self-supporting body.

I'd hate to tell family members it, but if I was going in for treatment of such nature, I'd say just make me comfortable and let me go instead of hacking me up inside and out.

I don't want to live a life of reliance on artificial equipment, or on others for that matter. If I cannot take care of myself in every situation, I'd feel like a worthless human being. In nature I'd die, so in life I should die.

I won't wish that upon others, and everyone has a different attitude towards life. Just explaining how I can see compu's reasoning, as it is basically the same as mine.
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I understand the reasoning and understand why some people would feel that way. I'm not debating that point at all. Just saying "she's better off dead" is lacking of tact when not everyone feels that way.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: dakels
I can't believe her UTI got so bad without treatment. So sad.
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Yeah, terrible quality of care from the hospital. I don't know how they would miss a UTI, should be one of the things tested when complaining with those symptoms. I mean, in the process of determining it to be kidney stones, wouldn't they have discovered it was in fact a UTI?
Terrible. 🙁
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I'm not qualified to say if this was really bad care or some exceptional condition but dam... I know that UTI's are one of the first things to check for many abdominal symptoms. If you don't know then at least tell the girl to drink some cranberry juice maybe even a broad spectrum antibiotic coarse while you wait for labs. Being who she is I would think she had access to decent care. Something seems really wrong with this level of care given but again, I can't make that evaluation. AFAIK most severe septicemia cases have very obvious symptoms.
 
not sure what kind of life she would have if she pulled through..both kidneys, limbs, etc...she will be in the hospital for a very very long time recovering...if she pulls through...bless her heart... I cannot even imagine how the parents must feel.... 🙁 if i had to witness my daughter going through that..i do not know if I would pull through

 
Originally posted by: dakels
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: dakels
I can't believe her UTI got so bad without treatment. So sad.
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Yeah, terrible quality of care from the hospital. I don't know how they would miss a UTI, should be one of the things tested when complaining with those symptoms. I mean, in the process of determining it to be kidney stones, wouldn't they have discovered it was in fact a UTI?
Terrible. 🙁
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I'm not qualified to say if this was really bad care or some exceptional condition but dam... I know that UTI's are one of the first things to check for many abdominal symptoms. If you don't know then at least tell the girl to drink some cranberry juice maybe even a broad spectrum antibiotic coarse while you wait for labs. Being who she is I would think she had access to decent care. Something seems really wrong with this level of care given but again, I can't make that evaluation. AFAIK most severe septicemia cases have very obvious symptoms.
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Well when the UTI progressed to septicemia it seemed to become extremely obvious and they began 'treating' for that.
But still... isn't there some kind of treatment for septicemia? Like potent medications? Or does it tend to always result in hacking up the body?
Unless she didn't return to the hospital until a few days had passed with septicemia spreading in her blood.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: dakels
I can't believe her UTI got so bad without treatment. So sad.
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Yeah, terrible quality of care from the hospital. I don't know how they would miss a UTI, should be one of the things tested when complaining with those symptoms. I mean, in the process of determining it to be kidney stones, wouldn't they have discovered it was in fact a UTI?
Terrible. 🙁


Originally posted by: wota
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Very sad. 🙁

Even if she survived, who would want to live like that? No kidneys means a lifetime of dialysis + no hands or feet. Poor gal is better off dead.
rose.gif
Click to expand...

I like your spirit, we should euthanize all amputees and handicapped. :thumbsup:
Click to expand...

While compuwiz shouldn't have gone so far as to say she is 'better off dead', I'd feel the same way in such a situation.

If I cannot live by my own means, I don't want to live. I'm extremely old fashioned when it comes to my health. If I have to live by means of a machine and don't have the same control over my life due to amputations and artificial limbs... I wouldn't want that life. If I woke up one day like that, sure I wouldn't go and off myself, but I'd be miserable, especially since everything I want to do in life requires a self-supporting body.

I'd hate to tell family members it, but if I was going in for treatment of such nature, I'd say just make me comfortable and let me go instead of hacking me up inside and out.

I don't want to live a life of reliance on artificial equipment, or on others for that matter. If I cannot take care of myself in every situation, I'd feel like a worthless human being. In nature I'd die, so in life I should die.

I won't wish that upon others, and everyone has a different attitude towards life. Just explaining how I can see compu's reasoning, as it is basically the same as mine.
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Maybe better off dead was a poor choice of words. I'm putting myself into how I would feel if it were me this happened to. I honestly don't know that I would want to live and frankly, yes I would probably feel like I would be better off dead. I guess it all depends on how her attitude toward life and it's challenges will be when she recovers.
I didn't mean for my post to seem insensitive. I feel very bad for her. 🙁

 
Why didn't the doctors just put her on antibiotics when she first went in? If labs come back and she ended up not having an infection, no big deal. It would be horrible if something that stupid caused something like this.
 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Why didn't the doctors just put her on antibiotics when she first went in? If labs come back and she ended up not having an infection, no big deal. It would be horrible if something that stupid caused something like this.
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Well I have no problem in this regard, but more thorough testing should have been done.

Antibiotics have been prescribed like they are candy in this day and age, at least here in the US. And it's terrible, because I imagine it is making our bodies more susceptible to nastier bugs, especially if you take an antibiotic when you have nothing for the meds to even try and kill off.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: dakels
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: dakels
I can't believe her UTI got so bad without treatment. So sad.
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Yeah, terrible quality of care from the hospital. I don't know how they would miss a UTI, should be one of the things tested when complaining with those symptoms. I mean, in the process of determining it to be kidney stones, wouldn't they have discovered it was in fact a UTI?
Terrible. 🙁
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I'm not qualified to say if this was really bad care or some exceptional condition but dam... I know that UTI's are one of the first things to check for many abdominal symptoms. If you don't know then at least tell the girl to drink some cranberry juice maybe even a broad spectrum antibiotic coarse while you wait for labs. Being who she is I would think she had access to decent care. Something seems really wrong with this level of care given but again, I can't make that evaluation. AFAIK most severe septicemia cases have very obvious symptoms.
Click to expand...

Well when the UTI progressed to septicemia it seemed to become extremely obvious and they began 'treating' for that.
But still... isn't there some kind of treatment for septicemia? Like potent medications? Or does it tend to always result in hacking up the body?
Unless she didn't return to the hospital until a few days had passed with septicemia spreading in her blood.
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As far as I know, and like I said I am no expert, septicemia requires immediate emergency treatment. Usually ICU monitoring with IV antibiotics, possibly anticoagulants and plasma, and oxygen. Septicemia can cover a broad range of pathogenic bacteria so it depends on the type of bacteria and conditions.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Why didn't the doctors just put her on antibiotics when she first went in? If labs come back and she ended up not having an infection, no big deal. It would be horrible if something that stupid caused something like this.
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Well I have no problem in this regard, but more thorough testing should have been done.

Antibiotics have been prescribed like they are candy in this day and age, at least here in the US. And it's terrible, because I imagine it is making our bodies more susceptible to nastier bugs, especially if you take an antibiotic when you have nothing for the meds to even try and kill off.
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Definitely more testing was called for, but her symptoms sound like they warranted at least some precautionary antibiotics. Besides, I think most of the resistant stuff comes from people who don't finish their prescriptions, or even antibiotics given to farm animals.
 
wanting to live through all of that just shows what a strong person she is, which just makes it even more tragic. i hope she survives.
 
Originally posted by: randay
wanting to live through all of that just shows what a strong person she is, which just makes it even more tragic. i hope she survives.
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indeed, i don't know what I would feel, but I have a feeling I woulda blinked "pull the plug" =\ I'm hoping for the same.
 
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
yet millions of fat unattractive americans live long healthy lives. Mind boggling.
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yeah that whole having a capable health care is crazy. Who woulda thought?
 
But her arms and legs are gonna be behind you anyway, and she'll still have a pretty face to look at until you're finished.
 
Meh, self inflicted damages don't warrant sympathy. Brazilian women do all sorts of weird shit to their own body to stay competitive and look good from an early age, and this what happens.
 
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