I don't suppose a PCI Express x16 slot Video Card.....

wormer311

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I don't suppose a PCI Express x16 slot Video Card will work in a regular PCI Express Graphics slot?

I recently purchased:

BFG NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT OC 256MB PCIe
(http://www2.bfgtech.com/bfgr78256gtoc.aspx)

Along with:

ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA
(http://www.asrock.com/mb/overv...?Model=4CoreDual-VSTA)


I think i screwed up and ordered the wrong motherboard and if thats the case I would like to order one that is compatible now instead of waiting on the motherboard to get here and testing the card.....then have to wait another week for a new motherboard if it doesnt work.

Any help would be major appreciated.

Brad
 

Canterwood

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The card will work in the PCI-E slot on that motherboard, but only at x4 speed instead of x16.

There will be a performance hit on a 7800 GT, but probably nothing major. A few FPS here and there.

Future cards however will most likely demand more bandwidth and therefore the performance hit would become greater as the x4 slot would become saturated.
 

Peter

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OP: Yes it will. As long as the slot is physically the size for x16 and provides as much supply power as a x16 slot should, the link width it actually offers doesn't matter. Link width degradation is an implicit feature of PCIE.
 

MarcVenice

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crappy-est mobo ever ? I couldn't even find it saying the pci-e graphics card slot was 4x ? I did see a AGP 8x slot though :p
 

Peter

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This is the /only/ chipset for Intel processors that provides /real/ AGP alongside PCIE. The drawback is that PCIE is only 4-wide - you can't do better than that with an Intel CPU. The AMD side has a ULi chipset that has real AGP and PCIE-16, ASRock make at least one board with that too.

Other boards that implement both PCIE and AGP slots do pseudo-AGP which is actually PCI - with /very/ limited card compatibility, essentially only older cards that still do 3.3V signalling (1x, 2x AGP modes).
 

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Originally posted by: MarcVenice
crappy-est mobo ever ?

I believe it is spelled crappiest, but no matter how you spell it this board is actually pretty great for its purpose. It worked beautifully with my X1900XT and E6600 and the performance hit by using the 4x slot was negligible.

That said, the only reason to actually get this motherboard (IMO) is if you have an AGP card and/or DDR that you want to keep using, but an 775 processor to use it with. Pretty great product since it allows you to slowly upgrade, rather than having to do a full-scale change.

Cheers,
KT
 

wormer311

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That was my exact reason. This is for a slow/cheap upgrade. A cheap $55 mobo that I can use my old p4 cpu & ide drives together with the new ddr2 & geforce 7800gt. A few months from now when I can afford to get a core2 cpu and mobo with some new sata drives i'll upgrade and use this mobo with my old agp card,ddr, and ide drives in a 2nd pc.

 

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Originally posted by: wormer311
That was my exact reason. This is for a slow/cheap upgrade. A cheap $55 mobo that I can use my old p4 cpu & ide drives together with the new ddr2 & geforce 7800gt. A few months from now when I can afford to get a core2 cpu and mobo with some new sata drives i'll upgrade and use this mobo with my old agp card,ddr, and ide drives in a 2nd pc.

:thumbsup: good plan!

KT
 

f4phantom2500

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isn't there some kind of decent intel board that supports lga775 and has slots for ddr and ddr2 ram? i mean, you didn't need the agp slot, and you can just get a pci ide controller card for those drives.
 

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: wormer311
That was my exact reason. This is for a slow/cheap upgrade. A cheap $55 mobo that I can use my old p4 cpu & ide drives together with the new ddr2 & geforce 7800gt. A few months from now when I can afford to get a core2 cpu and mobo with some new sata drives i'll upgrade and use this mobo with my old agp card,ddr, and ide drives in a 2nd pc.

</end quote></div>

:thumbsup: good plan!

KT

it gets my :thumbsup:, KT! :D:D
 

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KeithTalent
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: wormer311
That was my exact reason. This is for a slow/cheap upgrade. A cheap $55 mobo that I can use my old p4 cpu & ide drives together with the new ddr2 & geforce 7800gt. A few months from now when I can afford to get a core2 cpu and mobo with some new sata drives i'll upgrade and use this mobo with my old agp card,ddr, and ide drives in a 2nd pc.

</end quote></div>

:thumbsup: good plan!

KT</end quote></div>

it gets my :thumbsup:, KT! :D:D

Hehe, I'm having serious deja vu or something ;)

KT
 

Noema

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Originally posted by: MarcVenice
crappy-est mobo ever ? I couldn't even find it saying the pci-e graphics card slot was 4x ? I did see a AGP 8x slot though :p

I wouldn't call it crappy.

It's a great budget board that works as an stepping stone towards a full-fledged C2D rig.

It allows someone with a decent AGP card (like a 7950GT or X1950XT) and 2GB of DDR to upgrade towards C2D without breaking the bank because you can still use most of your old parts.

And an overclocked E4300 with an AGP X1950Pro and 2GB of DDR RAM can play most current games well provided you don't expect x4AA at 1920x1200.

 

PCTC2

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Originally posted by: f4phantom2500
isn't there some kind of decent intel board that supports lga775 and has slots for ddr and ddr2 ram? i mean, you didn't need the agp slot, and you can just get a pci ide controller card for those drives.

not that i know of.

the only Intel Chipset that I know of that supports multiple memory technologies is the P35 chipset, allowing both DDR2 and DDR3. Gigabyte has a P35C ("Combination") board that has 2x DDR3 slots and 4x DDR2 slots, for a slow upgrade from C2D/DDR2 to 45nm/DDR3.