I don't like Windows 7 Pro 64bit So Far... It's lousy

[cheez]

I've been trying out the Windows 7 Pro x64. Used Windows Server 2003 previously.

Well the user interface in desktop looks pretty. But I don't care. All that will do is suck up more system juice.

I suppose this has a bit better memory management over the King Kong champion Windows Server 2003. But I didn't notice speed difference. And network file transfer speed is about the same. Server 2003 is twice as fast as Windows XP in this regard.

Windows 7 is flakey, or hiccups easily when running my programs, i.e. video playback software made by russian scientists. For example, I start the video (1080i MPEG2-TS) and the first frame of the video displays and will not move on to next frame. The sound continues to play fine. I have to quit the playback and play again and again and again until it works. This is so [lame]...

uTorrent program only works if you reinstall. The next time you try to start uTorrent again it won't start.... You have to reinstall the damn thing again. And it takes a long time for the user interface to pop up. It's blazing fast with Server 2003. Does Win7 have DEP? Anyways, it's slow as dog. 😀

The BIGGEST problem with Windows 7 is the text quality in the display. The pixels are not lining up so the texts looks [bad]. Sometimes I could hardly identify what the hell the character is. I have to like stare at it for a minute to figure it out and make guess. Windows Server 2003 in comparison, is razor sharp, clearly defined, dot by dot, perfectly lined up pixels. It runs in 1:1 pixel mapping btw. The texts are so sharp it's like poking my eyeballs with a needle.


It's a downgrade going from Server 2003 32bit to Windows 7 64.

There are a lot of other issues with Windows 7 that I didn't cover here. If I mention them, it will take up over 10 pages.... don't have time to post all that [stuff].


^_^


cheez

No profanity in the technical forums
-ViRGE

 

[Zargon]

sorry this thread reeks of user error or trolling.

 

[cheez]

sorry this thread reeks of user error or trolling.

Me trolling? Nope. I am an honest philosopher. I see problems I will post. I don't hide problems like some people do.

And user error? Wanna elaborate on that.


cheez

 

[amenx]

sorry this thread reeks of user error or trolling.

Well, he's coming from an archaic OS. Guess he'll just have to join the tiny minority of windows users who dont like 7 (1-2%?).

 

[Mem]

Upgrade to Win8 or I would do a clean install of Win7 and don't bother with uTorrent,Qbittorent is far better and not bloated,I never had any issues on any of my operating systems like what you had even on 7 and I've used them all from DOS to Win8.

 

[stlcardinals]

Just a note to the OP: Windows Server 2008 R2 is the server equivalent of Windows 7. You're kind of comparing apples and oranges.

 

[cheez]

Well, he's coming from an archaic OS. Guess he'll just have to join the tiny minority of windows users who dont like 7 (1-2%?).

And that 98~ 99% of the users are an average Joe. They are not power users.

Upgrade to Win8 or I would do a clean install of Win7 and don't bother with uTorrent,Qbittorent is far better and not bloated,I never had any issues on any of my operating systems like what you had even on 7 and I've used them all from DOS to Win8.

This is with a clean install of Win 7.

I don't want to try out new things (Win 8) and run into more compatibility and bug issues. Don't have time for that.

I will try out Qbittorent and let ya know how it works out.

As for the no issue you had with Windows 7, maybe you don't use the same software as I do and don't have the same expectation as a user. Some people face problems but pretend they don't have problems with it. I see this happen all the time..


cheez

 

[cheez]

Just a note to the OP: Windows Server 2008 R2 is the server equivalent of Windows 7. You're kind of comparing apples and oranges.

I am talking about Server 2003, not 2008.

Server 2008 sucks. It won't take my video card driver and some other vital ones.

But man, Server 2003 is like heaven. All things ironed out, works perfectly, and bloody fast. I wet my pants. The damn thing was flying even with only 512 MB of system RAM with most intensive work load. It's about 340 times faster than Windows XP in comparison. Many newbs here believe Win XP is Server 2003 but that's because they are brainwashed. They are two entirely different when it comes to speed and stability.


cheez

 

[Mem]

As for the no issue you had with Windows 7, maybe you don't use the same software as I do and don't have the same expectation as a user. Some people face problems but pretend they don't have problems with it. I see this happen all the time..


cheez

I've had problems but virtually all have been either hardware gone faulty or some bit of odd software,driver etc...never been OS itself in my case,anyway you could do a clean install and just install latest drivers and then see if its all stable before you install your software one at a time,might be able to narrow the issue down.

 

[cheez]

Windows 7 hiccups easily it's crazy. Yesterday all of sudden my right speaker channel lost. I could hear barely from the speaker. I checked the sound properties through sound card software and Windows sound properties. All were set correctly. I had to "reboot" the damn thing to get the sound back. This is retarded. I only had the desktop running for less than a day before it hiccuped.. This had never happened with Server 2003.


cheez

 

[postmortemIA]

Turn off clear type. Switch to classic theme.

 

[boochi]

OP probably has crap or outdated hardware.

 

[cheez]

Turn off clear type. Switch to classic theme.

That's with classic theme for the desktop...

OP probably has crap or outdated hardware.

My hardware is fine. The video card is just fine too. I have the latest video card driver. Maybe the Win7 doesn't support my large screen TV then? It's Panasonic. It would be stupid to not support that... Can you please be more thoughtful / fruitful?


cheez

 

[cheez]

Here's more... it just won't end. I was playing music through Media Player Classic. I closed it. Hit a "back" button in explorer window to search for other stuff and I heard "tick" or what sounded to be a electrical static / distortion. Very unpleasant sound. I never got any of that with Server 2003. I had to reinstall the damn software to get rid of that static. I didn't need to do any of this with Server 2003.


cheez

 

[ControlD]

That's with classic theme...



My hardware is fine. The video card is just fine too. I have the latest video card driver. Maybe the Win7 doesn't support my large screen TV then? It's Panasonic. It would be stupid to not support that... Can you please be more thoughtful / fruitful?


cheez

Windows 7 doesn't support your Panasonic television, that's for sure. Your video card manufacturer's driver however does (or should). If you are having problems with your video then it is your video driver, not Windows 7 that is creating the problem. The same goes for your sound stuttering issues.

 

[cheez]

Windows 7 doesn't support your Panasonic television, that's for sure. Your video card manufacturer's driver however does (or should). If you are having problems with your video then it is your video driver, not Windows 7 that is creating the problem.

That's terrible for the OS side. Panasonic is one of the largest manufacturers that make Plasma/ LCD TV's and flat panel monitors. I am not using the old tube-based.

The same goes for your sound stuttering issues.

I don't have stuttering sound. It just caused ticks / static after closing the player and moving to next or previous in Explorer. Something with timing is off.... Windows 7 is related, because that's where I am facing probs.


cheez

 

[Jodell88]

I have no idea why you guys take cheez seriously. He trolled the Apple forum and now he's trolling here.

 

[cheez]

I have so many problems with it, I can't even count.

I wanted to watch videos on youtube. Well, it needs "Adobe Flash Plug-in". So I went to Adobe site and downloaded the current Flash Player for my OS. Access youtube fine. If I restart the computer, all hell break lose. I go to youtube site and it locks up immediately, saying that Adobe Flash has caused problem and needs to be closed. It locks my PC up for a few minutes, then lets me manually kill the process. I go reinstall Flash, can access youtube fine. After the restart what do you know.. same stupid cycle. Flash Player locks up again. Uninstalled the crap. This time, installed the Adobe Flash plugin from Firefox, exact same problem...

I am getting all kinds of sh#t problems with Windows 7. I didn't get this problem with Server 2003, but then, it was running the old version of Flash. Does anyone have ancient version of Flash Player? One that's a year or two old? I want to see if that helps with Windows 7.

I have no idea why you guys take cheez seriously. He trolled the Apple forum and now he's trolling here.

I am not trolling. Your post is absolutely helpless and I see you trolling. You only posted to troll me. I would suggest you re-think about who is trolling here.


cheez

 

[ControlD]

I have so many problems with it, I can't even count.

I wanted to watch videos on youtube. Well, it needs "Adobe Flash Plug-in". So I went to Adobe site and downloaded the current Flash Player for my OS. Access youtube fine. If I restart the computer, all hell break lose. I go to youtube site and it locks up immediately, saying that Adobe Flash has caused problem and needs to be closed. It locks my PC up for a few minutes, then lets me manually kill the process. I go reinstall Flash, can access youtube fine. After the restart what do you know.. same stupid cycle. Flash Player locks up again. Uninstalled the crap. This time, installed the Adobe Flash plugin from Firefox, exact same problem...

I am getting all kinds of sh#t problems with Windows 7. I didn't get this problem with Server 2003, but then, it was running the old version of Flash. Does anyone have ancient version of Flash Player? One that's a year or two old? I want to see if that helps with Windows 7.



I am not trolling. Your post is absolutely helpless and I see you trolling. You only posted to troll me. I would suggest you re-think about who is trolling here.


cheez

Are you running this on a netbook or something? Hell my A4 system doesn't have any of these issues at all. You either have out-of-date hardware or hardware with crappy driver support. Is this the same system you were running Server 2003 on? Did you build it back in 2003?

 

[etrigan420]

I have no idea why you guys take cheez seriously. He trolled the Apple forum and now he's trolling here.

Yup. Painfully obvious.

"Windows 7 doesn't support my TV!"

🙄

 

[cheez]

Are you running this on a netbook or something? Hell my A4 system doesn't have any of these issues at all. You either have out-of-date hardware or hardware with crappy driver support. Is this the same system you were running Server 2003 on? Did you build it back in 2003?

No this is HTPC, the same PC that had Server 2003 on. The PC is Asus P5B Deluxe motherboard with Intel Core2Duo Conroe chip which was built in mid 2006.


cheez

 

[cheez]

Yup. Painfully obvious.

"Windows 7 doesn't support my TV!"

🙄

I am skilled at complaining. I am good at it.

But still, it is ridiculous that Win 7 doesn't support a Panasonic plasma screen.... I still think you guys are just guessing with no facts / proof.


I can do almost nothing with this setup...

- Can't display texts properly (video playback is fine, sharp and crisp just like from Server 2003)

- Can't watch youtube videos

- Random static / pop noise after closing MPC and browse explorer window

- Can't run uTorrent right, meaning can't start once the system has been rebooted

- Reserved for more complaints


cheez

 

[ControlD]

No this is HTPC, the same PC that had Server 2003 on. The PC is Asus P5B Deluxe motherboard with Intel Core2Duo Conroe chip which was built in mid 2006.


cheez

OK, so we are talking about hardware that is roughly 7 years old. It is entirely possible that some of the hardware in there has only rudimentary driver support for Win7 (especially 64 bit). Unfortunately in the Windows world we are generally wholly dependent on manufacturer supplied drivers. Once they lose interest in providing good support the only recourse is new hardware or a different OS.

 

[ControlD]

I am skilled at complaining. I am good at it.

But still, it is ridiculous that Win 7 doesn't support a Panasonic plasma screen.... I still think you guys are just guessing with no facts / proof.


cheez

I think you misunderstood the comment about Windows not supporting a Panasonic TV. It is not the job of Windows to provide anything more than enough support required to display an image on your screen. For that purpose Windows does support your TV or any other VGA compatible device. To do anything otherwise is simply not within the realm of practicality.

If you want more than basic video support then you need to rely on the video drivers provided by your GPU manufacturer. If they have fallen down in providing you with proper drivers to get an acceptable display on your TV that is hardly the fault of MS.

 

[cheez]

OK, so we are talking about hardware that is roughly 7 years old. It is entirely possible that some of the hardware in there has only rudimentary driver support for Win7 (especially 64 bit). Unfortunately in the Windows world we are generally wholly dependent on manufacturer supplied drivers. Once they lose interest in providing good support the only recourse is new hardware or a different OS.

My sound card (Asus Xonar DX) is a year old in technology. But yeah, all the rest is pretty old including my video card (ATi x1950xtx which is also 7 yrs old).

I think you misunderstood the comment about Windows not supporting a Panasonic TV. It is not the job of Windows to provide anything more than enough support required to display an image on your screen. For that purpose Windows does support your TV or any other VGA compatible device. To do anything otherwise is simply not within the realm of practicality.

If you want more than basic video support then you need to rely on the video drivers provided by your GPU manufacturer. If they have fallen down in providing you with proper drivers to get an acceptable display on your TV that is hardly the fault of MS.

Ok then I guess I should have said "I run into more problems since I upgraded to Win 7".

Anyways, it's been a pretty mess. I really can't quite go back to Windows Server 2003 now. I have a new 3TB storage HDD (internal) but Server 2003 doesn't support 3TB. I recently transferred all crucial data from 1TB and 2TB (external) drives to a single 3TB drive.. I'm screwed balls...D:


cheez