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I don't get this "no guilty" on DUI charge

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A Phoenix police report released Tuesday shows Taurasi's blood-alcohol level was 0.17 percent, or more than twice the Arizona legal limit of 0.08 percent.
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Taurasi pleaded not guilty to the DUI charges and not responsible to the speeding citation.
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Now, I know that guys have done this too, so I'm not saying anything about females versus males okay?

How can she plead not guilty when her BAC was twice the legal limit? I mean, what exactly would the defense intend to prove? If she wanted to settle, wouldn't she have pleaded no contest?

And how can she be "not responsible" for the speeding citation? I never knew you could plead that in court.
 
Pleading not guilty is just a legal ploy to get the DA to bargain down to guilty on lesser charges. She doesn't need to be able to beat it, she just needs time to convince the DA that that case isn't worth the time, effort and expense to try it.
 
I'm sure she knows what she did, but a guilty plea means shit gets real too fast... especially if there could be jail time involved. It's the same thing that's happening w/ the drunk driver that plowed through our fence. He was obviously trashed, but he's bringing it to court just because he wants to stay free as long as he can. He's had multiple DUIs so there will be jail time for him.
 
Guilt has nothing to do with your plea. Pleading is just a formality that basically says you either want to go to trial and take your chances with a high priced lawyer, who will probably be able to get you the lightest possible sentence, or you want to get ass-fucking-raped by the law.

You'd have to be a complete fucking idiot to plead guilty to a charge like this IMO...especially if you have the money to fight it.
 
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
The statements of the police in their report does not automatically make someone guilty.
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I think a BAC measured twice the legal limit is a pretty strong statement.
 
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Plead not guilty and hope the DA will just cut a deal instead of the expense of a trial?
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This is the thing I don't get about our retarded legal system. You have laws and rules. People break them, they get caught, they get penalize right? Nope. In our legal system, there's no 1+1, it's something like 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 to drag a simple procedure on for as long as possible. What's the point of all this?
 
One thing I learned going through the legal system on the wrong end......


Never...ever...ever..EVER plead guilty at your arraignment.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
This is the thing I don't get about our retarded legal system. You have laws and rules. People break them, they get caught, they get penalize right?
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Innocent until proven guilty , not accused.

 
Originally posted by: OCguy
One thing I learned going through the legal system on the wrong end......


Never...ever...ever..EVER plead guilty at your arraignment.
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Are you talking about minor offenses? Speeding, sign violation, seatbelt, etc.?
 
Originally posted by: Spacehead

Innocent until proven guilty , not accused.
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The way I look at it, it's more like guilty until proven innocent. I mean if it's innocent until proven guilty, why do we have people in jails? Why arrest people? When people break the law, just write down their ID number and let them be on their way. Then get back to them when you can prove they're guilty. You see what I'm getting at?
 
Originally posted by: scorpious
Originally posted by: OCguy
One thing I learned going through the legal system on the wrong end......


Never...ever...ever..EVER plead guilty at your arraignment.
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Are you talking about minor offenses? Speeding, sign violation, seatbelt, etc.?
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No, im talking misdemeanor and up.
 
My brother got busted for driving while highly intoxicated (In Hawaii BAC >.015), blew a .18. He plead not guilty, and his administrative license hearing his license was not revoked, and at his legal hearings, he was given one continuance and the state was given one, and at the last hearing the state was prepared, so my brother never showed in the court room and took the bench warrant. In Hawaii they will not move you from one county/island to the next for DUI, and my brother lives on a different island. Two years and the bench warrant drops and the case is dismissed...without and the prosecutor will likely not refile...

In the OP's situation, if the state isn't prepared a couple of times, the case will be thrown out...worth a shot...

 
there are many things they can contest, such as if the proper DUI arrest process was followed, if the test was given properly, if the machinery was maintained properly etc etc...
 
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Spacehead

Innocent until proven guilty , not accused.
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The way I look at it, it's more like guilty until proven innocent. I mean if it's innocent until proven guilty, why do we have people in jails? Why arrest people? When people break the law, just write down their ID number and let them be on their way. Then get back to them when you can prove they're guilty. You see what I'm getting at?
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It's not "innocent until proven guilty" from the onset. It's the court that is supposed to view you as innocent until the prosecution provides enough evidence to prove your guilt.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Plead not guilty and hope the DA will just cut a deal instead of the expense of a trial?
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This is the thing I don't get about our retarded legal system. You have laws and rules. People break them, they get caught, they get penalize right? Nope. In our legal system, there's no 1+1, it's something like 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 to drag a simple procedure on for as long as possible. What's the point of all this?
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To make the lawyers rich. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Spacehead

Innocent until proven guilty , not accused.
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The way I look at it, it's more like guilty until proven innocent. I mean if it's innocent until proven guilty, why do we have people in jails? Why arrest people? When people break the law, just write down their ID number and let them be on their way. Then get back to them when you can prove they're guilty. You see what I'm getting at?
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...uh-huh.

No.
 
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: scorpious
Originally posted by: OCguy
One thing I learned going through the legal system on the wrong end......


Never...ever...ever..EVER plead guilty at your arraignment.
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Are you talking about minor offenses? Speeding, sign violation, seatbelt, etc.?
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No, im talking misdemeanor and up.
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A minor point, but in most jurisdictions, I don't believe you're arraigned for a misdemeanor. You might get a preliminary hearing that can proceed directly to trial if the judge decides.
 
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: scorpious
Originally posted by: OCguy
One thing I learned going through the legal system on the wrong end......


Never...ever...ever..EVER plead guilty at your arraignment.
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Are you talking about minor offenses? Speeding, sign violation, seatbelt, etc.?
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No, im talking misdemeanor and up.
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A minor point, but in most jurisdictions, I don't believe you're arraigned for a misdemeanor. You might get a preliminary hearing that can proceed directly to trial if the judge decides.
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You still plead guilty or not guilty, though.

We have arraignments for misdemeanors.
 
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