I don't get this aspect of RACIAL PROFILING...

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Remedy

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Fatdog, No matter how you slice it, sniff it, smoke it or even shoot it up. Sending one person to jail for 25 years is unnecessary in this situation. It doesn't matter if he had 188 or just 1,088. THis is one of the reasons why prisons in the united states are overpopulated. Stupid sentences like this just doesn't make any sense. Taking 188 grams of coke off of someone and giving 25 years doesn't make the streets safer. It makes an example out of ppl(color or not). "this is what happens when you have drugs and stop by the police" Big deal, 18tons of coke coming threw airports, coast of florida and borders of mexico every month and they only seem to decide that giving a suspect 25 years is the way to fight "the war against drugs?" Gimmie a break.
 

Aceman

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Was I swerving? I doubt it. It doesn't matter as I can go anywhere within those two white lines and there is no reckless driving or probable cause for drunk driving. It was his "best" excuse he could come up with for a reason to pull me over.

I have been pulled over in this metro area for:

-Not using a turn signal during rush hour to merge onto a freeway. (As I was getting a ticket and the police calling in to verify that I can live in this state and maintain my South Dakota tabs and license, I watch 12 other cars do exactly what I did.)

-Having South Dakota plates that were recently renewed after the local police knew that I had been living in at a Minnesota address for over 6 months.

-38mph in a 35mph zone

-"A description of someone's car involved in a crime was the same as mine"

-No headlights on in the daytime while it was raining

- Driving around a neighborhood deep in a suburb with SD Plates. "You lost there Son?"

If that isn't prejudical profiling, I don't know what is! I truly feel for the blacks and agree with the blacks in the Twin Cities that have fought city hall over this sort of prejudism/profiling. Here's a concept....Instead of worrying about a "'sure' ticket through profiling" why not just wait for the rich SOB in the Ford Excursion driving 75mph down the 55mph strip of the freeway.
 

Fatdog

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So what is your spin on people dealing drugs then, it's no big deal? A quick slap on the wrist and off you go?

As long as I can remember, dealing or using cocaine is illegal, and while people may or may not agree with that doesn't make it right. If you do it, and get caught, you pay the price. If you don't want to spend 25 years in the cross bar hotel, here's a thought. Don't deal or use drugs.
 

Courtland

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It is complete bs and one of the reasons I am a racist sometimes. People just arent aware of demographics and facts, and think everyone should be f*cking equal.

"Minorities accounted for 73 percent of people searched by troopers on the New Jersey Turnpike last year, according to state police statistics. From 1994 to 1996, minority motorists were involved in 84 percent of searches." -

Could it it be that most likely that the majority of the people they pull over are breaking the law or at least appear to be breaking the law, perhaps thats why they caught him in the first place. Good job cops, need to keep that trash in for another 25 more years, and lets not get into what I beleive they should do to criminals of that stature...
 

thraashman

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I hate to say it, but if it so happens that the majority of crimes are committed by minorities, then it's not profiling. It's just coincidence. From what I understand if a cop asked if he could searchmy car and I replied "I'd really rather not, I'm in kinda a hurry. That's why I was speeding afterall". Then until he got a court order, he could not search my car. And as long as he could not provide reason for searching my car, he couldn't do it. If his reason was I said no, then that's technically not a valid reason. As far as shaking hands, I'm willing to bet most people aren't visibly nervous, but are visibly apologetic and trying to get out of getting a ticket. If he was shaking enough for the officer to notice, then perhaps he felt that that degree of nervousness was enough to warrant him considering a search.

I had a roommate pulled over before. For no reason as far as he knows. And his car was searched. He was never given any kind of ticket or given a reason being pulled over. He's white and he lives in a predominantly white small town, and that's where he was pulled over. Cops are just people. Sometimes they get a bad feeling about something and they act on it. That's why they're required to ask if they can search.
 

UnixFreak

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<< So Unix, your trying to tell me 25 years is appropiate for have a few grams of drugs? 25? >>



Why dont you ask him, he agreed to it. If a coke dealer (188 grams is more than a few) is locked up for more time than the usual sentence, I, for one, am not complaining. One less sh*tbag on the streets. I have no sympathy for him. Because he is black, you are acting like he has done nothing wrong. He committed a crime. Fact. he is being punished for this crime another fact. he was pulled over because he was black is an irrelelant opinion. Using his race as a cop-out does not change the fact that he had 188 grams of cocaine on him, and he would not be in jail right now, if that were not the case.