"I don't buy CDs because there is nothing but crap."

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batmang

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i pirate cause cd's cost too much, and i am poorz0r. but i never pirate stuff that i really like, honestly. if its really good music, i still buy it when i have the money to. i downloaded the tool - lateralus cd before it got released, but i was there at 12am to buy it on the day of its release. i never steal from the bands i love to listen to. and btw, tool rules.
 

batmang

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oh yeah, forgot to say this: i think techno music should be 100% free, all they do is sample from other songs/people anyway, so why charge for it? now thats ironic.
 
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Congratulations. You listen to crappy music. Want a cookie?

I don't know about a cookie, but that comment earns you a :beer:.

/bought and paid for the music he's currently listening to in OGG format, so suck my long Canadian wang, RIAA

- M4H
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: edro13
You guys who say that you haven't bought a CD in years because it is total crap.... well... there is a reason for that. It's called music trends! I'm sorry that there aren't anymore New Kids on the Block, Whitesnake, or Paula Abdul type groups... just get over it.

Music changes... so get a new taste in music and buy some CDs. D@mn... You'd think you guys would have figured it out by now.

Yeah, I loved the old Metallica, the old Led Zeppelin, the old Beatles.... but they are gone!

Now I listen to stuff like System of a Down, New Metallica, Dave Mathews stuff like that...

Moral of the story: Stop using the "There isn't anything good" excuse to pirate the new "crappy" music.

Well, I don't buy CDs nor do I pirate music. There are some occasional bright spots in modern music but they are far and few between. I think I purchased only 1 CD in the past year and it was the new Metallica album. Having said that I agree that the arguement of "New music is crap" that's used to pirate music is lame.
 

GreenGhost

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I'm curious: Are most pirated songs new releases or old stuff? I mean: what is the average age of a downloaded song? Of course, one would expect that the most downloaded song in a certain day would be a newly released one, but I suspect many people look for older stuff, songs they liked but not enough to go to the store and pay $19 for the same 1983 album now lost in the attic.
 

thomsbrain

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yeah guys! you should change your tastes so you consume more! cause it would be a real shame if everyone consumed less! the recording companies pockets would be lined with less of our cash, and that would be a bad thing! cause then they might have to think a little harder about putting out something that doesn't suck!

moral of the story: edro13 is a corporate puppet.

edit: i might mention that in this last week alone i bought 15 cd's. and only 2 of them were from major labels. good stuff is out there, but it ain't from any of the companies who are getting their panties in a twist about downloading.
 

Red Dawn

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OK the RIAA is right. I'm going to run down to Tower Records and stock up with all the latest Snotgobbler music just because that's all they have to offer and if I don't then I am contributing to their less than spectacular record sales.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
yeah guys! you should change your tastes so you consume more! cause it would be a real shame if everyone consumed less! the recording companies pockets would be lined with less of our cash, and that would be a bad thing! cause then they might have to think a little harder about putting out something that doesn't suck!

moral of the story: edro13 is a corporate idiot.
editted for accuracy

btw, I neither buy nor pirate.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
yeah guys! you should change your tastes so you consume more! cause it would be a real shame if everyone consumed less! the recording companies pockets would be lined with less of our cash, and that would be a bad thing! cause then they might have to think a little harder about putting out something that doesn't suck!

moral of the story: edro13 is a corporate idiot.
editted for accuracy

btw, I neither buy nor pirate.
Do you borrow?
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
OK the RIAA is right. I'm going to run down to Tower Records and stock up with all the latest Snotgobbler music just because that's all they have to offer and if I don't then I am contributing to their less than spectacular record sales.

As usual, Red Dawn's sarcastic commentary says more than a thousand nefs from any other poster.

Remind me to buy you a :beer: if we ever meet and you don't kick my ass first. :p

- M4H
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
yeah guys! you should change your tastes so you consume more! cause it would be a real shame if everyone consumed less! the recording companies pockets would be lined with less of our cash, and that would be a bad thing! cause then they might have to think a little harder about putting out something that doesn't suck!

moral of the story: edro13 is a corporate idiot.
editted for accuracy

btw, I neither buy nor pirate.
Do you borrow?

Nah, he's straight-up hardcore. Nothing but radio dubs for this guy, I bet. :D

- M4H
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: edro13
You guys who say that you haven't bought a CD in years because it is total crap.... well... there is a reason for that. It's called music trends! I'm sorry that there aren't anymore New Kids on the Block, Whitesnake, or Paula Abdul type groups... just get over it.

Music changes... so get a new taste in music and buy some CDs. D@mn... You'd think you guys would have figured it out by now.

Yeah, I loved the old Metallica, the old Led Zeppelin, the old Beatles.... but they are gone!

Now I listen to stuff like System of a Down, New Metallica, Dave Mathews stuff like that...

Moral of the story: Stop using the "There isn't anything good" excuse to pirate the new "crappy" music.


I don't pirate music. My music comes primarily from live recordings downloaded through services that have the full support of the musicians. Mostly I am into Jazz/Blues-rock, so artists like Big Wu, Ekoostic Hookah, Bockman's Euphio, adn their ilk allow me my fix through live recordings. I pay them back by going to their shows whenever they are in town and buying any studio albums they produce provided I like the songlist on them.

Other artists of mine . . Flecktones, Phish, and, to a lesser extent, Moe. do have studio/professionally recorded albums, and If i like an album I will buy it, but I will still download their music from the internet, primarily live songs, to supplement my collection.

I am a bit safer with all this because most of my bands support file sharing . . mostly to spread awareness because most of their money comes from shows, anyway. Take the local saint Louis Bockman's Euphio, for example. A few years ago a friend and I were the only people at one of their shows until 45 minutes after the music got going. Now, they can fill mississippi nights without much trouble . . . primarily because, thanks to file sharing, awareness has spread very rapidly.


And besides, your argument makes no sense and this is a worthless post. People who don't buy music because music is crap won't turn around and download the same music that they consider to be crap. If someone uses that excuse (ie: I don't buy big-lable CD's because big-label companies produce mostly crap) then the CD's they would buy are either not available in their area (only place to get albums from, say, Bockman's is by going to a concert and buying one there) or not in existance.

So, um, what I am really trying to say is go back to school and try to pass the third grade.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
yeah guys! you should change your tastes so you consume more! cause it would be a real shame if everyone consumed less! the recording companies pockets would be lined with less of our cash, and that would be a bad thing! cause then they might have to think a little harder about putting out something that doesn't suck!

moral of the story: edro13 is a corporate idiot.
editted for accuracy

btw, I neither buy nor pirate.
Do you borrow?
Nah, he's straight-up hardcore. Nothing but radio dubs for this guy, I bet. :D

- M4H
LOL! :D

Oops, I meant that I don't buy new music. The last new album I bought, that new Metallica, was so bad I almost wanted to sue the RIAA for my $10 bucks back. ;)
I actually have a large collection of old music, mostly '70s and '80s rock and metal, most of which I bought from 2nd-hand shops.
 
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Originally posted by: Vic
Oops, I meant that I don't buy new music. The last new album I bought, that new Metallica, was so bad I almost wanted to sue the RIAA for my $10 bucks back. ;)
I actually have a large collection of old music, mostly '70s and '80s rock and metal, most of which I bought from 2nd-hand shops.

Of all the albums to pay full price for, St. Anger is not one of them. :p

Second-hand shops rule for old tunes. Up here there's monthly sales where they go for CDN$2 each. :)

- M4H
 

hdeck

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Vic
Oops, I meant that I don't buy new music. The last new album I bought, that new Metallica, was so bad I almost wanted to sue the RIAA for my $10 bucks back. ;)
I actually have a large collection of old music, mostly '70s and '80s rock and metal, most of which I bought from 2nd-hand shops.

Of all the albums to pay full price for, St. Anger is not one of them. :p

Second-hand shops rule for old tunes. Up here there's monthly sales where they go for CDN$2 each. :)

- M4H

i paid full price for that ($9.99) and enjoyed it whole-heartedly. the free DVD and access to free mp3s was a nice touch as well.
 

Mucman

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If you are all saying that it's crap, then either your taste in music sucks, or you have lousy shopping skills :)

Out of my 450 CD's there are only a couple dozen I don't really like that much.
 

amnesiac

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I don't even download any music anymore because there's nothing good coming out. Screw that.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: RaiseUp
I support the RIAA. I buy 5 cd's a week.
Even ones you don't like? That just makes no sense at all...

 

Hossenfeffer

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Jul 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: Garet Jax
My argument for not buying CDs is not that they are crap, but instead that one CD is likely to only have 1 or 2 goods songs.

It gives me the impression that the artist worked really hard on a couple of songs and then threw crap on to make 10+ songs on an album so they could make a CD. They release the couple of good songs and try to make everyone think that the rest of the album would be the same.

The days seem to be gone where I can buy a CD throw it in the CD player and love every song on it. Def Leppard, Zeppelin, Police, etc... all seemed to do that.

The last CD I bought was GreenDay's Nemesis. There are ~18 songs on it and I really only like 3 of them.

Truth is I don't download music either. Music is not an industry where I want to put my money.

If there was a service that would allow me to download an artist's good songs and pay $1 or $2 per song, then I would probably make use of it. Without that, there is no way I am buying a CD and only getting a couple of good songs.


Just because a song sucks doesn't mean that they didn't work hard on it. A great song can be ruined by overproducing it. Likewise, a less than great song can be made better with some attention. There's no way to really equate amount of time spent song to how good it is.

I'm anxious for things like itunes to further take off, personally.
 

RaiseUp

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I donate cash to help fund the fight against piracy. I hope you Pirates get caught. What you are doing is illegal.
 

geno

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Dec 26, 1999
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Stop using the "There isn't anything good" excuse to pirate the new "crappy" music.
It's not an excuse, but it's a large reason why piracy is so rampant right now.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: RaiseUp
I donate cash to help fund the fight against piracy. I hope you Pirates get caught. What you are doing is illegal.

and I hope your money goes to waste for helping a greedy organization feed the need :p
 

cliftonite

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Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: RaiseUp
I donate cash to help fund the fight against piracy. I hope you Pirates get caught. What you are doing is illegal.

and I hope your money goes to waste for helping a greedy organization feed the need :p