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I do 3 weight lifting exercises. Any reason to do more?

I work lots of hours. When I get to go to the gym I have to make the most of it. When I weight train it's 3 exercises. Squat, deadlift, bench. I'll admit I do wide grip pull ups. I'll do some shoulder presses occasionally just to keep the muscles moving and I have some weights at home. Is there any reason to expand my lifting routine? Any big lifts that give me bang for the buck like the big three? Any major muscle groups those 3 are missing?

I'm not trying to bulk up or anything. I like staying somewhat slender due to the fact I enjoy basketball and bicycling.
 
Fast ass bicyclist with lots of endurance one day
I'm no expert on biking, but I would guess that for this goal, working on your endurance/conditioning is essential; strength training is certainly useful, but secondary. If this is what you're interested in, check out Crossfit Endurance for an excellent workout routine for endurance athletes.

I like to have strong legs so I can jump high playing b-ball.
This sort of thing benefits a lot from strength and power training. The squat and deadlift are perfect for building maximal strength, so no need to change that. However, you also want to do an exercise or two that develop power - that is, the ability to apply your strength quickly and explosively. The best tools for that are the olympic-style lifts: clean, snatch, and jerk. Crossfit endurance includes plenty of o-lifts and starting strength includes the power clean - I recommend you do too, as that exercise has the same "bang for the buck" as the squat and deadlift. Sprinting is another excellent tool for building power, speed and conditioning, so adding it in would help all your goals. And of course, while strength & power training give you a great base, you need to actually practice jumping a lot to get good at it. High jump, broad jump, box jump, one legged, two legged, etc.

What does your routine look like now?
 
My routine has been lacking as of late. I try to get in a heavy deadlift and a heavy squat every two weeks. A bench press weekly. I only do the deadlift and squat bi weekly due to the fact I get so sore from them I can't do much cardio for a few days afterwards (or even walk). I try to run 2.5 miles 2-3x a week. If I'm lucky I'll bicycle once a week. When it warms up I'll probably rotate the bicycling and basketball games.
 
I work lots of hours. When I get to go to the gym I have to make the most of it. When I weight train it's 3 exercises. Squat, deadlift, bench. I'll admit I do wide grip pull ups. I'll do some shoulder presses occasionally just to keep the muscles moving and I have some weights at home. Is there any reason to expand my lifting routine? Any big lifts that give me bang for the buck like the big three? Any major muscle groups those 3 are missing?

I'm not trying to bulk up or anything. I like staying somewhat slender due to the fact I enjoy basketball and bicycling.

I did that for a couple months on a recent cut, in the form of a Reg Park 5x5. I lost 15 lbs. and kept almost all my strength. My bench actually stayed the same, my deadlift only fell 20 lbs., and my squat stayed the same. Not bad for a cut 🙂
 
I try to get in a heavy deadlift and a heavy squat every two weeks. A bench press weekly. I only do the deadlift and squat bi weekly due to the fact I get so sore from them I can't do much cardio for a few days afterwards (or even walk).
You get so sore form them because you only do them once every 2 weeks. If you did them more often, you'd get used to them and not get nearly as sore. Moreover, you must be making VERY slow progress doing the lifts so infrequently. Try to get in at least 2 workouts per week if you want to see real gains.
 
You get so sore form them because you only do them once every 2 weeks. If you did them more often, you'd get used to them and not get nearly as sore. Moreover, you must be making VERY slow progress doing the lifts so infrequently. Try to get in at least 2 workouts per week if you want to see real gains.

The worst pain is when you haven't done squats for more then 7 days...worst...

You have a good set of exercises.

Why not do some dips super setted with your wide grip pull ups? It shouldn't affect each other too badly, or you could super set chin ups and military press? Or one session super set bent over rows and pull ups/ chin ups/ dips.

But you have the bases covered with squats and deadlifts. I'd recommend OLifts of some sorts if you fancy learning something new! 🙂

Koing
 
I'm no expert on biking, but I would guess that for this goal, working on your endurance/conditioning is essential; strength training is certainly useful, but secondary.
That's about right. Strength training is particularly beneficial for cyclists as a way to prevent loss of bone density, but since the OP's running and playing basketball, that's not really an issue.
 
You could add a pulling exercise (power clean, barbell rows) to balance the pressing. That should help prevent muscular imbalances in your shoulder.
 
I'm thinking I'll learn power clean. I have an Olympic weight set at home with 300 lbs. Should that be enough weight and is it an exercise I could do without a spotter?
 
You could add a pulling exercise (power clean, barbell rows) to balance the pressing. That should help prevent muscular imbalances in your shoulder.

Probably the most important statement here. What about your back, man? I don't care what your goals are, you don't want to build significant differences in anterior and posterior strength. On my current workout plan, I vary my movements each time - I'll do squat, shoulder press, and DB rows ones day and squat, bench, and pullups the next. Once every week or two, you should throw in a deadlift day. Right now you're setting yourself up for posture problems that can be exacerbated into vertebral/spinal problems, as well as effect the shoulder joint.
 
I'm thinking I'll learn power clean. I have an Olympic weight set at home with 300 lbs. Should that be enough weight and is it an exercise I could do without a spotter?

That is definitely something you can learn at home, but it takes time and patience, at least in my case. Check out the book Starting Strength and the Starting Strength Wiki. Don't discount barbell rows. They are not as good for developing power as the power clean, but they are an excellent balancing excercise for bench press.
 
I'm thinking I'll learn power clean. I have an Olympic weight set at home with 300 lbs. Should that be enough weight and is it an exercise I could do without a spotter?

Yes, 300 lbs is more than enough for the power clean. The power clean will typically be in the neighborhood of ~65% of your deadlift, so until you are deadlifting over 500lbs, your 300lb set should last you a while.

As for spotting, the only barbell exercise you should have a spotter for is the bench press. For virtually all others (squat, deadlift, power clean, OH press, etc), spotters are a bad idea, as they add nothing to the safety of the exercise and in all likelihood actually make it more dangerous.
 
Yes, 300 lbs is more than enough for the power clean. The power clean will typically be in the neighborhood of ~65% of your deadlift, so until you are deadlifting over 500lbs, your 300lb set should last you a while.

As for spotting, the only barbell exercise you should have a spotter for is the bench press. For virtually all others (squat, deadlift, power clean, OH press, etc), spotters are a bad idea, as they add nothing to the safety of the exercise and in all likelihood actually make it more dangerous.

I don't know about that...most spotters don't know what they are doing I will say, but a good spotter is a great thing to have.

I am assuming most of these exercises you are hoping someone is doing in a power rack though, throwing 300lbs or more off your shoulders is serious shit with a bar especially if lifting at home. I like dumbbells for clearing reasons. You can sort of ride them down in almost any exercise you have a total failure on.
 
I don't know about that...most spotters don't know what they are doing I will say, but a good spotter is a great thing to have.

I am assuming most of these exercises you are hoping someone is doing in a power rack though, throwing 300lbs or more off your shoulders is serious shit with a bar especially if lifting at home. I like dumbbells for clearing reasons. You can sort of ride them down in almost any exercise you have a total failure on.

With the notable exception of the bench press, a spotter is not necessary for the majority of barbell exercises:

* Squat: should be done in a power rack with safety rails set-up just below full squat depth. If you get in trouble, just leave the bar on the rails. If you have bumper plates, you can also easily dump the weight. Spotting the squat is very difficult and most people do it wrong, which actually makes things more dangerous. If you train in a PL gym with trained spotters, they can be helpful, but that isn't the case for 99.9% of the population.

* Bench: as I said, this is the one exercise where a spotter is very helpful. Alternatives are a power rack with safety rails just below your chest, doing DB bench press, or leaving the collars off and letting the weights slide off (worst case scenario, but still better than being caught under the bar).

* OH press: if you can't finish a rep, just lower the weight back to your shoulders.

* Deadlift, rows, and most slow lifts from the ground: if you can't finish a rep, just set the bar back down.

* Any o-lift (clean, snatch, jerk): best done with bumper plates so you can dump the weight if you miss a rep. At any rate, there is *nothing* a spotter could do to help any of these exercises.

I do agree that dumbbells are great for some exercises (such as bench press), but they are very limiting on weight, especially for lower body movements.
 
I thought we were talking about oilfieldtrash and lifting at home though...if he is going to do this he should invest in a power rack with 'spotters'...they aren't that expensive.
 
I do five exercises and have made pretty sweet gains. 😛

Squat/Bench/Dead
Squat/OH Press/Row
Squat/Bench/Dead


Hax.
 
You need pull ups and dips man...FANTASTIC exercises you can also do chins and wide grip pull ups and weighted ones and weighted dips easily!

Koing
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I took Koings and Briskus' advice on doing squats more frequently and that cured the soreness I was experiencing. I do my squats and deadlifts weekly and in just the short amount of time doing it weekly I only experience soreness for a day. I use to be sore for 5-6 days.
I also am doing the power clean weekly. It is a great exercise. I don't come off the ground doing them. Is it necessary to come off the ground when doing them?

I also do my squat and deadlifts in the same day. I know it would be best to seperate them but I'm strapped for time. Is this a bad thing? I now do deads and squat one day and my other weightlifting day is bench and powerclean.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I took Koings and Briskus' advice on doing squats more frequently and that cured the soreness I was experiencing. I do my squats and deadlifts weekly and in just the short amount of time doing it weekly I only experience soreness for a day. I use to be sore for 5-6 days.
I also am doing the power clean weekly. It is a great exercise. I don't come off the ground doing them. Is it necessary to come off the ground when doing them?

I also do my squat and deadlifts in the same day. I know it would be best to seperate them but I'm strapped for time. Is this a bad thing? I now do deads and squat one day and my other weightlifting day is bench and powerclean.

Aim for maximum extension in the power clean.

Stand tall, upright, on your tip toes, THIS is the position where you want to try and end up in the finish of the Power Clean.

Coming off the floor is okay but once your off teh floor you can't 'put force' down anymore. Just don't do 'flutter kicks' where your heels go backwards towards your bum. Thats not needed and a waste of movement.

Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65KpZzYi5mQ

Koing
 
I also am doing the power clean weekly. It is a great exercise. I don't come off the ground doing them. Is it necessary to come off the ground when doing them?
You should be coming off the ground just enough to get your feet from the jumping stance into the squat stance. This should be a very rapid motion and not involve a huge donkey kick. Although the power clean motion does resemble a jumping motion, you don't want to actually launch yourself really high in the air - instead, that energy should go into the bar.

I also do my squat and deadlifts in the same day. I know it would be best to seperate them but I'm strapped for time. Is this a bad thing? I now do deads and squat one day and my other weightlifting day is bench and powerclean.
Many routines do squat and deadlifts in the same day. In fact, many strength training routines do squats every workout day, regardless of what else you are doing. It takes some getting used to, but works just fine.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I took Koings and Briskus' advice on doing squats more frequently and that cured the soreness I was experiencing. I do my squats and deadlifts weekly and in just the short amount of time doing it weekly I only experience soreness for a day. I use to be sore for 5-6 days.
I also am doing the power clean weekly. It is a great exercise. I don't come off the ground doing them. Is it necessary to come off the ground when doing them?

I also do my squat and deadlifts in the same day. I know it would be best to seperate them but I'm strapped for time. Is this a bad thing? I now do deads and squat one day and my other weightlifting day is bench and powerclean.


Squat/Dead/Bench on one day

Squat/Clean on the other one...

....if I had to split those lifts. Clean takes more out of me than dead lifting does, so I'd rather not do that one in tandem with benching. Squatting every day just produces rather strong quads, very quickly....many programs call for squatting several times a week, anyway (strength, not body building programs).
 
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