I didn't know the bible says no to transfusions

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
But organ transplants are a-okay... how's that for logic.

But only after they have blessed by a rabbi, soaked and preserved in salt.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Psynaut
I was taught in sunday School that it is as hard for a rich man to get into heaven as it is for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. They taught this as though there were actually needle factories back then. Many years later I learned that the needle they referred to was an archway in the fence leading into the city and that camels had to kneel down to get through it. The asshats that taught me Sunday School, however, took it literally, to mean a modern day sewing needle. Christ Allmighty people are stupid!!!

so it wasn't really that hard to get in, just kind of time consuming?

also, they sewed stuff back then, didn't they? they must have had some kind of needle.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: JDub02
I've never found that in the Bible. But if they want to refuse, that's OK.

It's all in the interpretation, like pretty much every sect of Christianity 😛

Acts 15:29

that ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication. If ye keep yourselves from these things, ye shall do well. Fare ye well!"

Leviticus 17:10

And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers who sojourn among you, who eateth any manner of blood, I will even set My face against that soul who eateth blood and will cut him off from among his people.

Yet another strange Leviticus carry-over 😕
Seems to me more like eating rare steaks violates it.

 

[Jeff7]

What if getting offered a transfusion is God's way of offering you help in a time of need?
Then you get to go see him after you die, and he says, "Sorry dickhead, you turned away my Holy Blood Transfusion. That shit ain't cheap, either. Off to Hell with you now."

 

[Psynaut]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Psynaut
I was taught in sunday School that it is as hard for a rich man to get into heaven as it is for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. They taught this as though there were actually needle factories back then. Many years later I learned that the needle they referred to was an archway in the fence leading into the city and that camels had to kneel down to get through it. The asshats that taught me Sunday School, however, took it literally, to mean a modern day sewing needle. Christ Allmighty people are stupid!!!

so it wasn't really that hard to get in, just kind of time consuming?

also, they sewed stuff back then, didn't they? they must have had some kind of needle.

The actual lesson is that for a rich man to get into heaven he must get on his knees, which implies that he must become humble and prayerful.

 

[OCGuy]

Good, more blood for the people with IQs over 40.

 

[gar3555]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
But organ transplants are a-okay... how's that for logic.

But only after they have blessed by a rabbi, soaked and preserved in salt.

Kosher organs?

 

[jonks]

good, more blood for me, we have shortages as it is

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Psynaut
I was taught in sunday School that it is as hard for a rich man to get into heaven as it is for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. They taught this as though there were actually needle factories back then. Many years later I learned that the needle they referred to was an archway in the fence leading into the city and that camels had to kneel down to get through it. The asshats that taught me Sunday School, however, took it literally, to mean a modern day sewing needle. Christ Allmighty people are stupid!!!

so it wasn't really that hard to get in, just kind of time consuming?

also, they sewed stuff back then, didn't they? they must have had some kind of needle.

The camel not only had to kneel and crawl through, it also had to be unloaded of any burdens.

Thus understood, the metaphor becomes an interesting point about how it is often easier to unload a pack animal than it is for us to release our claims to earthly possessions and comforts. It shows a parallel (though not a complete one) to the Buddhist belief that attachment to worldly goods interferes with one's ability to obtain enlightenment.

ZV

 

[FeuerFrei]

Ask him to show you where.
And 'no' the Jehovah's Witness version doesn't count. 😉

BTW, he's making stuff up.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Wow, that's pretty dumb.

Its dumber then pretty dumb.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: uhohs
Jesus explicitly tells his followers to share the Gospel with others.

Didn't Jesus also tell his followers to kill anyone who wouldn't convert? Something like that. Maybe that was someone else. I don't know the Bible pretty well but I'm pretty sure there's at least one instance of someone telling everyone to massacre those that don't agree with you.

Furthermore, it's totally crazy that Jehovah's Witnesses have taken to heart that one specific "lesson" from Leviticus, which is by far the most fucked-up insane book of the Bible. Do they follow all the other lessons taught in Leviticus about when you have to stone people or burn them to death for various sins?

 

[txrandom]

This reminds me of the Nazi POW getting worked on by American medics. He refused a blood transfusion because he didn't want to be tainted with Jewish blood, luckily he died!

 

[Synomenon]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
I was talking to a guy at work and he said he'd rather die than get a transfusion because the bible says not to.

interesting.

anyone else feel the same way?

You believe him? 😕

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
I was talking to a guy at work and he said he'd rather die than get a transfusion because the bible says not to.

interesting.

anyone else feel the same way?

Should have stabbed in to test his beliefs... j/k

People that choose to die because they believe in religious crap when they can medically be saved are throwing away God's greatest gift....life.

 

[IEC]

It doesn't say anything of the sort in the Bible. Proof-texting is stupid anyways.

Plus, he sounds like a Jehovah's witness. I don't consider them to be Christian.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: FDF12389
It doesn't say that in the bible.

The bible says anything the listener wants to hear. You can pull out any passage you like and give it the right spin to make your own personal idiocies words from on high. That's the whole freaking problem.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: uhohs
Jesus explicitly tells his followers to share the Gospel with others.

Didn't Jesus also tell his followers to kill anyone who wouldn't convert? Something like that. Maybe that was someone else. I don't know the Bible pretty well but I'm pretty sure there's at least one instance of someone telling everyone to massacre those that don't agree with you.

Furthermore, it's totally crazy that Jehovah's Witnesses have taken to heart that one specific "lesson" from Leviticus, which is by far the most fucked-up insane book of the Bible. Do they follow all the other lessons taught in Leviticus about when you have to stone people or burn them to death for various sins?

Of course not, that's crazy! 😉

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi

Originally posted by: JohnCU
I was talking to a guy at work and he said he'd rather die than get a transfusion because the bible says not to.

interesting.

anyone else feel the same way?

You believe him? 😕

he was serious.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
It doesn't say anything of the sort in the Bible. Proof-texting is stupid anyways.

Plus, he sounds like a Jehovah's witness. I don't consider them to be Christian.

They're Christian, they're just a Christian cult is all.

 

[sandorski]

All kinds of people make all kinds of claims of what the Bible says.

 

[powpowpow]

definitely Jehovah's witness

 

[thraashman]

I always find it funny when people use Leviticus as a source for these ridiculous practices that should be followed as a Christian. Especially since Leviticus expressly forbids cutting your hair or facial hair and forbids wearing cotton/polyester blends.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: FDF12389
It doesn't say that in the bible.

The bible says anything the listener wants to hear. You can pull out any passage you like and give it the right spin to make your own personal idiocies words from on high. That's the whole freaking problem.

Not only that, but if you're unable to stretch an interpretation of the Bible to justify your practices, you can just make up another holy book and claim to follow that! Hey, it worked for the Mormons.

 

[Psynaut]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Psynaut
I was taught in sunday School that it is as hard for a rich man to get into heaven as it is for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. They taught this as though there were actually needle factories back then. Many years later I learned that the needle they referred to was an archway in the fence leading into the city and that camels had to kneel down to get through it. The asshats that taught me Sunday School, however, took it literally, to mean a modern day sewing needle. Christ Allmighty people are stupid!!!

so it wasn't really that hard to get in, just kind of time consuming?

also, they sewed stuff back then, didn't they? they must have had some kind of needle.

The camel not only had to kneel and crawl through, it also had to be unloaded of any burdens.

Thus understood, the metaphor becomes an interesting point about how it is often easier to unload a pack animal than it is for us to release our claims to earthly possessions and comforts. It shows a parallel (though not a complete one) to the Buddhist belief that attachment to worldly goods interferes with one's ability to obtain enlightenment.

ZV

Some poeple believe that Jesus traveled to India and learned the mystical teachings of the far east, as well as having visions through the use of Soma, which is now widely believed to be the Amanita Muscara mushroom. Then brought these teaching back to Isreal. If this is the case, his teachings would have been influenced by Buddhism. *edit: Most americans don't know this, but Hindu lore is filled with enlightened human beings who performed all the same miracles as Jesus, plus more. One of these beings is believed to be immortal and still living in India.

From what I have read, Christianity was a lot different in the early days, including a belief in reincarnation up unitil some time around the 3rd or 4th century AD, another Buddism-esque belief. From what I read, Reincarnation, as a teaching, was done away with by the early church because they felt that if people believed they had lots of lives, they wouldn't try as hard to be good in this one (I think I read that in a Greg Braden book, but I am not sure).