i curse all those that lie on their resume about their experience!

[brainhulk]

The whole point of a resume is just to get you an interview. No one should ever be hired without an interview. And if the boss does their job properly they should know if somebody is appropriate for hire by asking good questions.

yeah, the problem with my managers are that they don't work the position anymore. they sit behind their desk all day long. I'm going to recommend that a staff person be present at all interviews to ask clinical questions

 

[shortylickens]

yeah, the problem with my managers are that they don't work the position anymore. they sit behind their desk all day long. I'm going to recommend that a staff person be present at all interviews to ask clinical questions

EXCELLENT idea! I wish that had been the case before I went to Hynix. The engineer who interviewed me was very smart, but he didnt know shit about the day-to-day job of the technicians.

 

[Sonikku]

2 straight fakers that we hired...I also blame my supervisor for not asking tough questions.

Now I'm stuck bringing up to speed another noob that I'm not really in the mood for.

So basically your company is ok with keeping on liars that padded their resume and bring them up to speed at their own expense. The liars got a job. The honest people didn't. Your company supports this practice.

And you wonder why this happens?

 

[vshah]

i would have no qualms about leaving a job to a better one, regardless of how long i'd been there. I would do my best to make the transition as easy as possible for the previous employer though.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I wanted to comment that in general, all corporate job descriptions for hiring SUCK! They act like they're paying by the bit for web ads. The absolute worst is the hospitality industry. Our function is to offer services for our guests/customers and who is offered the worst service in the known world? Prospective employees.

In jobs that require considerable technical expertise, applicants first have to get past HR who wants to know if they play nice with others and will follow policy right over the edge of a cliff. Too many times, good applicants never even get the chance to answer technical questions because HR doesn't know the right questions to ask and are following corporate hiring practices.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

Some jobs have outrageous requirements. Actually, most seem to...

In the time you've hired fake employees, you could have trained someone (and paid them less) to get the job done.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Hmm ... getting a job so I can make a living, or making sure I don't inconvenience the wise and all important brainhulk. Tough choice.

Giving your employers accurate information about your experience makes things easier on you too. How much fun do you think it would be to be thrust into a job that is completely out of your depth because you lied on your resume?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Giving your employers accurate information about your experience makes things easier on you too. How much fun do you think it would be to be thrust into a job that is completely out of your depth because you lied on your resume?

I don't know. I've always been working too hard to make up for the deficiencies of corporate managers. I wonder how they got their job?

 

[waggy]

Some jobs have outrageous requirements. Actually, most seem to...

In the time you've hired fake employees, you could have trained someone (and paid them less) to get the job done.

this is my big complaint. When i was working we placed ads for Tier 1 help desk support. pretty much just read a script and tell people what it says. pretty much anyone that can read can do it.

the requirements? 2 years experience and 4 yr degree. all for a whopping $9 an hour.

they never figured out why it took 6 months to hire someone and out of those most seemed to lie.

 

[SandEagle]

the important question is 'how does she look?'

 

[Svnla]

Is the person in the OP story still in probation period and can be fired for any reasons (with a few exceptions)?

 

[Fritzo]

LOL. We actually kicked someone out the door for this last month. He said he were an expert web developer, and it turns out he used Wordpress templates for all of his printed demo pages. His first task was to create a shopping cart database for a customer and he was like "WTF?"

Some people have balls, gotta say that.

 

[yllus]

What's the issue with firing them? This is what probation periods are for.

 

[Jeff7]

EXCELLENT idea! I wish that had been the case before I went to Hynix. The engineer who interviewed me was very smart, but he didnt know shit about the day-to-day job of the technicians.

And they may not have permission to find out what other departments do. I'm regularly instructed that I need to make my designs easier for other departments to interface with. It needs to be simple so that sales can understand it and sell it. It needs to be easy for a customer with little technical expertise to use the product. It needs to assemble quickly to keep labor costs low. It needs to minimize material costs. It needs to look good for the marketing department. It needs to survive shipping, and exposure to the elements.

However, I'm not given time to simply go work in the shop or see what's going on out there, or to see what sales does over the course of a few days, to learn what their jobs really entail. The best I might get is an hour or two out of a year. It's training, which means I'm spending time away from my desk not doing engineering sorts of things. And it's training that won't produce a return in a way that accounting can easily measure, so it doesn't have any $$$ way to justify it.
So I'm left to use my imagination a lot of the time, which tends to be more of an ideal and orderly place than the rest of the world generally is. (And often my idea of "extremely simplistic" is significantly more complex than a lot of people can handle. :\)


Or selecting the engineer to sit in on the interview may have gone like this:

"Hey we're interviewing some candidates, and I want you to sit in on the interview and help out."

- "What do you want me to do? Ask questions, listen in, or what? I've never done interviewing before."

"Just ask them about whatever the heck it is you do. You know, technical...things."

- "...yeah."