I challenge you to show your policies have ever worked.

[irishScott]

Well, to turn this into a gun thread, there's the fact that shall-issue concealed carry has swept across the nation (37 states being shall-issue or unrestricted, 4 more permissive may-issue, as opposed to 9 shall-issue/unrestricted states back in 1986) and the wild-west environment that was predicted by the left never happened, and in fact crime has gone down in recent years while gun ownership has spiked.

Now I've heard the valid argument that maybe other factors are lowering crime and outweighing the theoretical negative effect of CC, but that's unsupported speculation at its finest and reeks of lefty rationalizations in the face of being continually proved wrong on this front. Now we've just got tracetheguns.org, a pathetic excuse of a scare tactic. But then again I guess liberals don't see it as a scare tactic. Most are already scared of guns and don't understand people who aren't, so to them it's just a tactic.

 

[soulcougher73]

Nice try on turning my question around on me, which pretty much sums up your approach to my challenge. It's fun to see how you're handling this.

Just answer my question, which was all I was referring to. But I like how you find new and exciting ways to do exactly what I was referring to in my last post: divert.

As I challenged, and as I referred to in my counter-challenge: Either put up or shut up.

Man you showed him. Way to be original. Your post resembles nothing of an answer to the OP. Man up already.

 

[BoberFett]

Man you showed him. Way to be original. Your post resembles nothing of an answer to the OP. Man up already.

Why should Democrats, who clearly started this thread to show that Republican policy doesn't work, be exempt from their own challenge? I'd love to see you show that your policy works. If we're to believe that big government and big spending is the answer, the US should be a utopia by now.

Man up yourself, and show that Democrat policy works.

 

[BoberFett]

Nothing yet so far...

I haven't seen anything from you either.

Just answer my question. Stop dodging.

 

[dmcowen674]

Prove that Democrat policies have ever worked.

I'll be waiting.

Country did awesome under Clinton.

Complete disaster under Bush.

 

[PeshakJang]

Country did awesome under Clinton once the Republicans took congress.

Complete disaster under Bush once the Democrats took congress.

Good one little Davie.

 

[bfdd]

They are my countrymen, and I'd like to keep it that way. The United States of America, remember? I have other selfish reasons, as well, like maintenance of the interstate highway system and a relatively uniform code of conduct and justice. Not to mention 100% cotton clothes.

The power structure in much of the deep rural south is such that ordinary people born and raised there are at an extreme disadvantage, with poor education and backward folkways. It makes 'em easy to exploit and manipulate by so-called Conservatives. It's my duty as a citizen and a human being to try to change that, if only in small ways.

I look at it differently than you. See I believe my neighbors, the people living in my state are more important than my countrymen all the way across the country in some bumfuck state that leeches our states tax dollars. Sure I have no problem helping my countrymen, but my state comes first.

 

[bfdd]

Why should Democrats, who clearly started this thread to show that Republican policy doesn't work, be exempt from their own challenge? I'd love to see you show that your policy works. If we're to believe that big government and big spending is the answer, the US should be a utopia by now.

Man up yourself, and show that Democrat policy works.

it's funny that they think there's a difference. PS BOTH OF THESE PARTIES HAVE HAD DAMN NEAR EXCLUSIVE POWER FOR 100+ YEARS AND BOTH HAVE FUCKED SHIT OFF. We're better off now than then, we've progressed forward, and they both managed to fuck shit off. Stop fucking playing R vs D, stop fucking trying to rep your colors, that shit doesn't matter. They both want your money and obedience.

 

[dmcowen674]

it's funny that they think there's a difference. PS BOTH OF THESE PARTIES HAVE HAD DAMN NEAR EXCLUSIVE POWER FOR 100+ YEARS AND BOTH HAVE FUCKED SHIT OFF. We're better off now than then, we've progressed forward, and they both managed to fuck shit off. Stop fucking playing R vs D, stop fucking trying to rep your colors, that shit doesn't matter. They both want your money and obedience.

1 in 7 Americans, highest in 51 years.

It's in clear Red and Blue.

The red states have 43 million people in poverty.

Serves them right for voting Republican :thumbsup:

10-19-2010

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20101019/cm_huffpost/767734_201010190954/

 

[crashtestdummy]

Obviously my policies are varied, so I'll have to choose a few to discuss.

1) Nothing Good Happens After 2:30 am Act of 2006 After several years of debate in my lower House of Consciousness and a some flip-flopping, this policy went into effect five years ago, to great effect. The Organized Activities Commission's subcommittee, The Committee For Staying Up and Late Drinking, received sweeping new powers to enforce curfews, and impose temporary budgetary freezes. So far, it has kept me out of several fights, prevented me from being in the middle of other people's drama, and ensured that my Sat / Sun mornings aren't ruined by exhaustion. I'd say this policy has been a rousing success in my life and led to few, if any, situations where I regretted calling it a night at 2 am.


2) The Girlfriend Act of 2008 In reality, The Girlfriend Act was a reform package which reformed policies that had been in place under the Temporarily Single After Having My Heart Broken Act of 2006/2007, which had, of course, been proceeded by the She Could Be The One Declaration of 2005. It brought sweeping changes to my Budget Office, Organized Activities Commission, my Bureau of Fermented, Distilled, and Brewed Beverages Office, My Foreign Policy Office (including the Penis Deployment Office, whose complicated filing system was shelved), and it had a dramatic effect on my Executive Office, with the installation of a new Vice President. It also had a temporarily dramatic effect on The Budget and Social Outlook Foresight Committee.

While these reforms were highly effective for a long time, they lost their edge recently. In early October, polls had indicated that the Happiness Factor was down nearly 75%, and the comprehensive report compiled by the Budget and Social Outlook Foresight Committee was grim. The house and Congress last week rushed through a dramatic overhaul under the Now Single Act of October 2010 which has boosted employment and reinvigorated many sectors of my economy which had been stagnant.

So, while The Girlfriend Act pulled me out of a recession, brought prosperity and joy to my life, and helped determine my long-term outlook, it was time for it to go. I'd give it a "moderately effective" rating.

3) Finally, we should probably examine the Deployment to Canada Act of 2007 and the subsequent Move in With High School Friends reform bill of 2008. The former, while well-conceived, was highly debated for many months. On the Pro side, we had impassioned speeches about being able to live abroad, spend time with family, make new friends, etc. the Con side pointed out how far away it was, how unsure I was about the employment I had accepted, and how I knew only a few people there. Ultimately, of course, the Pro side won and, while it was a great adventure filled with a few good times, it has to be seen as an ultimate failure in light of the Move in With High School Friends Act which brought much rejoicing. It has been in effect for two years and probably will not change for at least another year or two.

Those are the only policies I've ever been responsible for and, as you can tell, they've been a mixed bag, though mostly with positive results.

This is one of the better posts I've seen in my short time here.

:thumbsup: to you. But isn't the New Single Act just returning to the old, failed policies of the past?

 

[soulcougher73]

Why should Democrats, who clearly started this thread to show that Republican policy doesn't work, be exempt from their own challenge? I'd love to see you show that your policy works. If we're to believe that big government and big spending is the answer, the US should be a utopia by now.

Man up yourself, and show that Democrat policy works.

You are free to start your own thread if you want a democrats answer to the same question. But he posed the question so it should be answered before his rebuttal to you is answered.

Im just playing devils advocate since im neither Dem or Repub. With your way of thinking no wonder nothing ever gets answered or really talked about.

 

[JD50]

If Democrats had all the answers then the Democrat controlled cities would have great schools, low crime, and low unemployment. Neither party has the answer, that's why gridlock is so important.

 

[JD50]

You are free to start your own thread if you want a democrats answer to the same question. But he posed the question so it should be answered before his rebuttal to you is answered.

Im just playing devils advocate since im neither Dem or Repub. With your way of thinking no wonder nothing ever gets answered or really talked about.

The OP's motives are obvious. He's insinuating that Democrats have the answers while Republicans do not. Bobberfett offers a perfectly valid rebuttal.

I'd love to see these liberal Utopias. They run almost all of the big cities in America, why do they have so many problems if Democrat's policies are the answer?

 

[Jaskalas]

Country did awesome under Clinton.

Great, now go elect a Republican Congress to mirror that scenario.

Complete disaster under Bush.

and re-elect Mr. Impotence for a second term.

You still think that'll be a policy that 'works'?

 

[soulcougher73]

The OP's motives are obvious. He's insinuating that Democrats have the answers while Republicans do not. Bobberfett offers a perfectly valid rebuttal.

I'd love to see these liberal Utopias. They run almost all of the big cities in America, why do they have so many problems if Democrat's policies are the answer?

So is this also to say you and Bobberfett are admitting Repubs also do not have the answer? Is this a way to admit defeat by turning the question back on the OP?

Just curious.

 

[JD50]

So is this also to say you and Bobberfett are admitting Repubs also do not have the answer? Is this a way to admit defeat by turning the question back on the OP?

Just curious.

Speaking for myself, yes, I do not think that Republicans have the answer either. I'm not admitting defeat because I'm not a Republican.

 

[BoberFett]

So is this also to say you and Bobberfett are admitting Repubs also do not have the answer? Is this a way to admit defeat by turning the question back on the OP?

Just curious.

I already said Republicans don't have any answers back on page 1. Try reading the whole thread. My counter-challenge was merely attempting to balance the trollish OP whose motives are as transparent as the vacuum of space.