JulesMaximus
No Lifer
So, are you a Prius basher? I can't keep track of all of you...oh, and you've done nothing to disprove what I said.
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I challenge the assumption that people buy a Prius to show off treehuggery
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So, are you a Prius basher? I can't keep track of all of you...oh, and you've done nothing to disprove what I said.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
If that's what makes you feel happy. Means jack shit to me personally.
alphatarget1
Diamond Member
HOV lanes are designed to encourage people to carpool in order to alleviate congestion. Some liberal douche who drives (by him/herself) in a hybrid is still consuming a lot of energy and doesn't help the congestion problem. There is a reason why Caltrans doesn't give out those stickers anymore. It was wrong to begin with and I'm glad they ended the program.
Would we still use as much oil as we do today if all of the highways around rush hour allows free flow speed in all metropolitan areas?
Don't tell these treehuggers that the batteries in their hybrid is extremely harmful to the environment if not disposed of properly, and it'll probably take a lot of energy to properly recycle one of those. You cannot beat the laws of thermodynamics with a POS internal combustion engine.
stateofbeasley
Senior member
Why are we still on the subject of HOV lanes? If the program is over for 1 person in a hybrid, its over.
Batteries "extremely" harmful? That is incorrect.
The Prius uses a Nickel Metal Hydride battery: Toyota link, which is at best only slightly toxic. It is also easy and economical to recycle. battery university link.
If you're going to continue to debate in this thread, bring some facts and sources to the table, instead of this nonsense that has been rehashed a thousand times already.
stateofbeasley
Senior member
If not, :roll:
I started this thread because I want to know where this assumption comes from. Just making a statement like "every1 knows this" isn't proof.
Excuuuuse me? There is nothing wrong with ricers. Humor and good laughter is good once in a while ricer power!
Back to the OP, my aunt purchased a new Camry Hybrid because she wanted to reduce her carbon footprint while driving a normal looking car, then she goes home to her 5 bedroom 4000sf home, cranks the AC down to 68 degrees and preheats her 10,000 gallon pool to a nice 86 degrees so she can whip out a starbucks mocha frappuccino out of a can leave the back door open so she can feel the cool breeze out of the house while sitting in her pool.
This is my perception of a "smug prius owner." Seriously, think before you preach.
zerocool84
Lifer
Yea anyone who says it isnt a statement car is just in denile.
zerocool84
Lifer
You said you want to help lessen the US dependence on foreign oil.
stateofbeasley
Senior member
You cannot distinguish between your interpretation of an advertisement, versus what people actually think when they chose a vehicle?
:roll:
I feel like I am arguing with imbeciles.
I give up. Nobody has shown me any concrete proof that people buy Priuses in order to be "smug". It's all the same garbage reasoning (if it can even be called that): "because I said so".
JeepinEd
Senior member
I do, and since you can't easily buy a diesel in CA, a Hybrid is a good way to go about it. My primary reason for getting it, however, was because of the technology. I love cutting edge tech and am usually an early adopter. I don't go around preaching to anyone about carbon footprints, nor do I have "save the world" bumper stickers on my car. In other words, I didn't buy it to make a statement. Others may see it and through their own bias may assume that I'm trying to make a statement, but the same can be said about anyone who drives a luxury car or a sports car or an SUV, etc. Are they all trying to make a statement? I'm rich, I'm macho.....
zerocool84
Lifer
Ok since we're imbeciles what proof do you have that they didn't buy it cus of the statement it makes???
You do know that the reason why they made the Pruis look different is cus people want other people to know that they drive a hybrid right? Regular cars that just have hybrid badges on them don't sell well cus they look like a regular car. People want their hybrid to look different. People in general want their "green" cars to look different so that people know what they're driving. It's part of the appeal that goes with it.
So a company that advertises a car as "green" means nothing? Your neighbor could have gotten a car that was just as comfortable and had just as much room but he wanted a hybrid and that's what sold it. Buying a hybrid says something about someone. Think whatever you want though cus I'm an imbecile and you're not. People buy a Pruis cus there's something different about it and that's the appeal.
I'm an imbecile so I'll leave your thread since you're so smart.
Itchrelief
Golden Member
I would say that they don't necessarily want a hatchback, they just get one because the Prius happens to be a hatchback. Then they love to brag about how many interior cubes it has.
Take the Prius badge off the vehicle and ask someone, would you drive a hatchback? They'd likely say no. Likewise, ask them if they'd like a station wagon or a minivan.
Without the hype going along with the Prius name, a hatchback/wagon is normally a non-starter for the average consumer.
I know the topic is about the 'smugness' factor that was made popular by South Park, but if anything I have seen that most hybrid owners are far from smug and are non judgmental of other vehicles and drivers. On the other hand I have been flipped off while filling up, constantly get tailgated, honked at, and passed by aggressive drives even when driving with the flow of traffic. Some Hybrid (mostly Insight owners from my experience) have faced even much worst including being threatened physically. This seemed to peak last summer with gas prices.
My parents drive a Prius, they even bought it on my advice to replace an Aztek. They are far from smug, but do like spending less on gas when my mom drives to town as they live in the country and when going on trips. Regular Idaho rural people.
When I first bought my used Insight over 2 years ago it wasn't to make a statement to anyone, but to get the #1 fuel efficient car ever sold in the US. However I freely share the fact that the Insight gets more than 2X the mileage of most cars on the road. Most people are unaware that such cars even exist and have the assumption that 30mpg highway is as good as it gets. Most still operate on the assumption that hybrids including the Prius only get 40 mpg. Even my parents average 55mpg in their Prius and my dad now brags to me that he can get 25mpg in his half ton pickup. For the record I also have a half ton Chevy, but prefer to use the Insight as my primary mover.
My parents drive a Prius, they even bought it on my advice to replace an Aztek. They are far from smug, but do like spending less on gas when my mom drives to town as they live in the country and when going on trips. Regular Idaho rural people.
When I first bought my used Insight over 2 years ago it wasn't to make a statement to anyone, but to get the #1 fuel efficient car ever sold in the US. However I freely share the fact that the Insight gets more than 2X the mileage of most cars on the road. Most people are unaware that such cars even exist and have the assumption that 30mpg highway is as good as it gets. Most still operate on the assumption that hybrids including the Prius only get 40 mpg. Even my parents average 55mpg in their Prius and my dad now brags to me that he can get 25mpg in his half ton pickup. For the record I also have a half ton Chevy, but prefer to use the Insight as my primary mover.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
What if a conservative douche drives by him/herself in a hybrid?
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
Yeah, but it's fun pushing the giant pile of bullshit back on the idiots who spew this nonsense. 😛
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