Originally posted by: DearQT
Originally posted by: DougK62
If you swap the female and male references in your post, that's exactly how most men feel. I know it's probably hard to see that when you're on the other side of the table, but it's true.
And that's how I see the whole disconnection between the two sexes - both sides "want want want" and no one wants to "give give give".
Let me try it this way: For purposes of this argument, I'll eliminate all females who seek just physical pleasure. So we're talking about women who are interested in long-term/serious relationships. Now, think of when you first meet that woman. What are the first few things you do? What are the things she boasts about; she says makes her proud and think this guy is the right one for her? Don't you try listening to her, buying her flowers, complimenting her, asking her what her problems are, relating her problems to others you know of, showing kindness, courtesy, etc.?
Even if you claim you don't know, that is mostly what she boasts of. Well, ask yourself this: What stops you from doing these things 6 months later, a year, two years later, three years later ... 10 years later...? Why do you only do the ones you do only on special occasions? The most men can complain about women is that they stop dressing to impress, stop maintaining the weight, and lost the looks but hardly about these other things. (Don't say she's no longer offering sex because it's more complicated. It's often because the men have neglected other things that mean a lot to her.) How come guys seem to know what they need to do to attract women, but suddenly they don't know [anymore] once they've stolen her heart?
