I can't see the point behind getting married nor having kids.

[astrocase]

Originally posted by: shuttleboi

Do you realise how brainwashed you are? Do you know you sound like a cult member (e.g. one of those scientologists) trying to proselytise others to follow your road to salvation? Hey, you can go screw yourself. Take your mindwashing brochures and wipe your own ass with it.

Most people will be able to read straight through you. You're an angry person who obviously wants to think he's always right and seeing people who disagree with your opinion really really bothers you.

You've already made your decisions. This isn't about you. This is about linuxator.

Those nutjob scientoligists by the way don't believe in Psychology or medication. Just thought you should learn something here Mr know it all. Obviously with your PhD in Computer Science and your BMW you have the perfect life and are so much happier than the rest of us.

Your views are limited. Grad school is not for everyone. It doesn't guarantee anything and the information that you will actually retain and use in the workforce is marginal at best. It's a piece of paper that says you were a good student. It doesn't guarantee that you will be good at working. I have a degree that I never even used and I make more money than you. A lot more. An education and money do not translate to happiness though. You can't buy love.

As for your friends and volunteer work, that's great. Congratulations. What about relationships with women? You failed to mention that. If you have friends like you say you do then most of them probably have wives or husbands and families and don't have that much time to spend with you.

You then go on to talk negatively about sex and blowjobs, trying to link them with STD's and 16 year olds. Hmmm.

Why do you need an M6 so bad anyways?

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: phr0m
wow this is a huge thread........
and lol this guy is a 23 year old vergin
i mean i know were he is comming from saying that sex isnt everything but once you experience it you gotta have it more and more.
and i thought it was wierd when i found the love of my life when i was only 17, lol

See thsi is the problem I have with society nowadays, since when is it this HOLY THING to fck whoever comes in sight after you reach pubirty!!! That's how it seems to me!!! All I know is that If I have to get married she will have to be a virgin, I don't want a girl that has been poked 11 million times to sleep with me in the same bed, and beleive me there are girls out there that do think the same way that I do, it's just a matter of having enough time to go on hunt for them, me 2 cents.

 

[astrocase]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
See thsi is the problem I have with society nowadays, since when is it this HOLY THING to fck whoever comes in sight after you reach pubirty!!! That's how it seems to me!!! All I know is that If I have to get married she will have to be a virgin, I don't want a girl that has been poked 11 million times to sleep with me in the same bed, and beleive me there are girls out there that do think the same way that I do, it's just a matter of having enough time to go on hunt for them, me 2 cents.

The reason you feel that way is because you have no experience. I think most guys will agree that when they were younger they didn't want a girl that had slept with a bunch of guys. However as you go out and figure out what you want and what you need and learn about yourself and relationships you'll realize that an experienced woman is not dirty. She simply had to make the same mistakes and learn the same lessons that you did. Having sex with a virgin doesn't guarantee success. You might not be sexually compatible. Sex is an important part in a relationship and leaving that until the end is a huge gamble on your part, especially when you don't know anything.

I know that statistics are like buttholes but there was a study out that said that couples that got married as virgins had a lower divorce rate but a higher STD rate. Simply put they cheat on each other. This is mostly due to religious reasons, ie looking down upon divorce but what you have to realize is that your virgin might not be able to satisfy your needs and you might not be able to satisfy hers. You're going to be screwed in more ways than you can imagine then.

Sex is more than you think. There's making love, there is straight up screwing and there is perverted sex that you might not do all the time. If you can't satisfy all that (plus more) you will have bad sex. You might find that your woman won't give you head but that you really like getting head. Good luck trying to overcome that one. You might find that there are a bunch of things that she wants that you don't like. Suddenly your sex life sucks and there's nothing you can do about it. If you had dated like normal people you would know stuff like this and you would have figured out how to overcome these problems early on.

 

[Alex]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: sheik124

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Jehovah
You've never had sex, have you?

Irrelevant.

No no I think it is, why you dodging that question, hmm?

I don't believe in pre-marital sex, next.

LOL 😀

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAH

you should become a priest or something dude... i mean you don't believe in pre-marital sex (which is BS really - it just means you're ashamed of being a 20-some year old virgin and are hidding behind some cliché)

but anyway so you don't believe in marriage and you don't believe in pre-marital sex... so therefore you don't believe in sex.

thats absurd! since you like being independent and helping others you should join a church or something, i mean since you won't be having any sex anyway the chastity part is already taken care of!
LOL

what a pile of contradictions!
have fun beating your monkey on your own for the rest of your life!

and you call yourself "normal"

PEACE!

 

[shuttleboi]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Give me a break. Are you asian by any chance? You make sweeping generalizations about people who did not follow in the path you chose.

Amazing hypocrisy. I'm going to jot that down for future reference. Thanks.

 

[Spook]

well, I'm coming really late to this thread... but Its and interesting question you have, so, here goes...

I think you have a healthy attitude, and if you want to wait on sex, then so be it... You've worked hard, and have more things you want to do before even exploring the possibility of women, and since your still in school, and want to possibly pursue a masters, it would be best not to travel down that road yet. Plenty of people do it mind you... I have a friend who is married with 2 children, and just finished his masters... But that's the hard road...

In the end, someday you may decide to pursue a relationship of some kind, but for now, since your just leaving the house(mom and dad), enjoy your freedom. It will be great for awhile, but someday it may get lonely.

As far as mom and dad pushing you into a relationship, well, you need to understand that back in their day, people normally got married after high school, and they don't understand the dynamics of today's young people. More and more young people are waiting longer to get married, and enjoying their independence.

So.... your young.... soak it up, and enjoy. It sounds like you have a plan. just stick to that for now, it will evolve over time.

Spook

 

[shuttleboi]

Originally posted by: manno
wow that's some sh#$ you're pushing there.

I'm not going to comment on your assertions. If your views get you through the day and keep you from committing suicide, then I'm all for it.

 

[shuttleboi]

Originally posted by: astrocase

Originally posted by: shuttleboi

Do you realise how brainwashed you are? Do you know you sound like a cult member (e.g. one of those scientologists) trying to proselytise others to follow your road to salvation? Hey, you can go screw yourself. Take your mindwashing brochures and wipe your own ass with it.

Most people will be able to read straight through you. You're an angry person who obviously wants to think he's always right and seeing people who disagree with your opinion really really bothers you.

To each his own. Linuxator asked for opinions, and I gave him mine. If my views on good education, hard work, and independent thought are an affront to your values, then I have nothing more to say to you.

 

[astrocase]

Originally posted by: shuttleboi

Originally posted by: astrocase

Originally posted by: shuttleboi

Do you realise how brainwashed you are? Do you know you sound like a cult member (e.g. one of those scientologists) trying to proselytise others to follow your road to salvation? Hey, you can go screw yourself. Take your mindwashing brochures and wipe your own ass with it.

Most people will be able to read straight through you. You're an angry person who obviously wants to think he's always right and seeing people who disagree with your opinion really really bothers you.

To each his own. Linuxator asked for opinions, and I gave him mine. If my views on good education, hard work, and independent thought are an affront to your values, then I have nothing more to say to you.

You're simply not seeing the big picture. Especially if that's all you could muster to type after what I just wrote to you.

 

[astrocase]

Originally posted by: Spook
well, I'm coming really late to this thread... but Its and interesting question you have, so, here goes...

I think you have a healthy attitude, and if you want to wait on sex, then so be it... You've worked hard, and have more things you want to do before even exploring the possibility of women, and since your still in school, and want to possibly pursue a masters, it would be best not to travel down that road yet. Plenty of people do it mind you... I have a friend who is married with 2 children, and just finished his masters... But that's the hard road...

In the end, someday you may decide to pursue a relationship of some kind, but for now, since your just leaving the house(mom and dad), enjoy your freedom. It will be great for awhile, but someday it may get lonely.

As far as mom and dad pushing you into a relationship, well, you need to understand that back in their day, people normally got married after high school, and they don't understand the dynamics of today's young people. More and more young people are waiting longer to get married, and enjoying their independence.

So.... your young.... soak it up, and enjoy. It sounds like you have a plan. just stick to that for now, it will evolve over time.

Spook

So you think not having any relationships until you're almost 30 is healthy? Nobody says the guy should go and get married with children but what about dating and sex?

 

[hemiram]

Originally posted by: Aquila76
I'm 100% onboard with the OP here.

I knew from Day 1 of dating that I did not want to have kids. There's just too much drama in the world to introduce more meat for the grinder. If the kid doesn't get kidnapped from or murdered at school, there's a good chance he'll be attacked by a sex offender, harassed by other students to the point of breaking, etc. IMO, There's just too much hate and violence in this world for me to want to subject someone else to that.

My marriage has made me regret getting married. I was single for 23 years and very happy and content, but thought I needed more. I had known my wife for years (just under a decade, actually) before we got married and after 2 years of dating was certain that I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. However, since that ring hit her finger she's pulled a 180 on me. I'm not one to care too much about physical changes, because those can go both ways - just give it time to heal. But mental changes are far more permanent. That is where she has changed the most, and it was due to her actions. She chose to hide from me the fact that she attempted suicide three times before we were married. I found that out after I came home from work one day and found her unconscious with empty bottles of pills and liquor. A week later when she recovered, she was a totally different person. The combo of pills and alcohol destroyed parts of her memory and affects her ability to remember. She is far more emotionally uncontrolled, undisciplined; she's prone to emotional outbursts over the pettiest of things. She has improved, somewhat; but it's always nagging at the back of my head that she'll do this again and either succeed or make herself worse. She has made enough progress now that I don't want to go through the messiness a divorce would bring. Honestly though, if I could go back 6 years, my marriage is the only thing I've done that I would change.

Cliffs:
1. I agree with no kids infinite%
2. My marriage is strong evidence to not get married as you can never know what the other person is capable of.

I hope you realize that the odds of anything happening like "murdred at school" or kidnapped is extremely low. Just think of how many millions of kids there are and how often one gets killed or kidnapped. You see it on TV now all the time, and it seems like it's happening a lot, but it isn't. The odds of your kid getting killed in a car wreck are many, many times higher than being murdered. Or hit by lightning walking to school.

You married a wahckjob, I just lived with one for a while. Great looking, but crazy. She was into punching me when I was asleep. I warned her repeatedly, that I wasn't going to take it much longer, and when I did finally go off, she wouldn't like the ass kicking she was going to get. A couple of days later, after a minor argument over the choice of movie to rent, she whacked me in the balls while I was asleep. I went after her and she didn't look so great afterwards. I packed up her stuff, and took her to the bus station. I bought her a one way non refundable ticket back to LA. She looked like a raccoon when she got on the bus. She had two black eyes and a busted lip.

I warned her to stop. When you push someone who outweighs you by over 100 pounds, and was a bouncer in a dive casino, too far, you WILL lose! She folded faster than I thought she would. Like most bully types, she can dish it out, but not take it.

I called her parents who were less than thrilled to have her come back home. She hit them too. She's 49 now, and looks 29, amazingly young looking. I saw her pic on some website a while back and recognized her instantly. Apparently 25 years of therapy, and a rich old husband to pay for it, have made her sane. At least she couldn't have any kids to terrorize before she got her head straightened out.

 

[manno]

Originally posted by: shuttleboi

Originally posted by: manno
wow that's some sh#$ you're pushing there.

I'm not going to comment on your assertions. If your views get you through the day and keep you from committing suicide, then I'm all for it.

Oh snap! You sure showed me! How could I ever hope to rebut such a well put non rebuttal! But seriously guy I wasn't trying to be mean or anything, you realy should start dating. It's good, well intentioned avdvice.

 

[bob661]

"I should pop yo ass fo what you jus did, but omelette dis one slide."

LMAO!!!

 

[Pathogen03]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Jehovah
You've never had sex, have you?

Irrelevant.

Maybe Men are for you? 😉

 

[bob661]

but what I am saying is that my situtation is a little different from other ppl's situation.

Your situation is not much different than others. What makes it "appear" to be different is that you take the time to understand that marriage and kids aren't for you right now and vocalize it in public. Most people don't think much hence all the "accidental" births and "gotta do the right thing" marriages. I didn't get married till 4 years ago (I'm 36, met my wife when I was 29) and I think it's best that we all think about these things and make a decision FIRST then carry on with life. I think your decision is the best one you can make. Nothings engraved in stone it's ALL subject to change anyways.

 

[bob661]

that your opinions are almost certainly going to change one day.

Or they may never change and that's fine also. Whatever works best for him because he's the only one that can live his life. If marriage and kids work for you then that's fine too.

 

[Queasy]

Hey, I figure by having two kids I'm at least putting people on this earth to help fund all my retirement and medical benefits when I retire. 😉

 

[bob661]

We don't need you.

If that's the case we don't need YOU either. Life is happiness or unhappiness. Or maybe life is love or hate. Life is whatever it is or isn't. Do what you want and accept the consequences or don't.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Doodoo
Give yourself a few more years and your views will change...

HEHE... thats so true 😛

Or wait and by some freakish order of fate, someone that u feel you cant be without will pop in your life and next thing you know, u got girly stuff in your bathroom and your tolet role will last u from 2 weeks to 2 days!

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Doodoo
Give yourself a few more years and your views will change...

HEHE... thats so true 😛

Or wait and by some freakish order of fate, someone that u feel you cant be without will pop in your life and next thing you know, u got girly stuff in your bathroom and your tolet role will last u from 2 weeks to 2 days!

2 y b plz r ur c.

 

[codeyf]

Originally posted by: The LinuxatorNo I didn't say that, if I reached one point where I found the perfect girl and saw that there is no way we can not get a long and be happy then why not we will settle down and get married.

I'm not going to read all 9 pages of this thread...

But with that sort of criteria, I can tell you that you will never get married. There is no "perfect" marriage/girl. Everyone has flaws, and if you're not going to consider someone a "perfect" match because the two of you might feel differently about something, it simply will never happen.

Not that there is anything wrong with being alone.

Preisthood/Monk life FTW?

 

[codeyf]

Also, I am married w/2 kids.

I can tell you right now, coming home and hearing my kids come running yelling "daddy! daddy! daddy!" gives you a feeling NOTHING else can match. Looking at my kids, I see myself and my wife in them. Little habits and ways of doing things they got from watching us, seeing them develop their own little personality, and eventually grow up. There's nothing else like it.

 

[hdeck]

clearly you've never had a girlfriend, are scared of girls, and are completely insecure. you use the "i don't believe in premarital sex" line because you've never had the opportunity and you are too scared to attempt to meet a girl and initiate it.

 

[bob661]

I am not a troll. Just because I do not have the same opinions as most others, that does not make me a troll.

I agree. I don't find you a troll at all.

 

[Hammerhead]

-You're gonna be one of those sad lonely men that eat at the restaurant by themselves.
You'll look over at the other table and see another man surrounded by his family celebrating his birthday.

-On weekends you'll go to the park, sit on the bench watching the kids play. others will think you are a pedophile and think it's strange that you're just watching kids.

-Holidays will suck. You won't have that significant other to exchange gifts with. You won't have kids that you can spoil with toys on christmas morning.

-You'll go to work miserable on fathers day. Your coworkers will have their "#1 Dad" coffee mug or tie and you'll have nothing.

-Coming home from work will be depressing. No kids to greet you at the door. No loving wife to kiss when you get home. What do you do for dinner? all your friends are busy with their families. You decide between tv dinners or going out to the restaurants. Either way, you're eating by yourself.

-After dinner, you go on the computer and play WoW. Strike up a conversation with a sexy female Night Elf that is in fact another lonely man just like yourself.

Enjoy your life.