I can't believes this - Professor calls cops on pro-gun student....

[Socio]

If the crap hit the fan bet that same Professor would have no problem hiding behind someone with a gun.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Unless he said "I think everyone should have a gun on campus, and I have one now", or made threats, I hope this teacher is fired.

What a bunch of little urban bubble-kids they have to be to be scared of talking about firearms.

Thank you, 2nd amendment.

Yea how dare the teacher talk to the chair of the dept and dean and then follow school policy. :roll:


So hows that mat working out for ya?

Guaranteed the teacher will not be fired for doing what her bosses recommend she do. For the record, this is the way things are supposed to work.

Student says something that makes students and/or teacher scared. Teacher confers with bosses about what to do. Bosses decide to err on side of protecting student body. Police are called to investigate a potential problem. Police treat suspect with respect and confirm that there's nothing illegal going on. School backs off.

I'm not sure where the problem is except in mind of OP who couldn't possibly know if the students and/or professor had just cause to feel worried.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Socio
If the crap hit the fan bet that same Professor would have no problem hiding behind someone with a gun.

But you can't conceive that that same professor would rather see the shootout prevented altogether?

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Unless he said "I think everyone should have a gun on campus, and I have one now", or made threats, I hope this teacher is fired.

What a bunch of little urban bubble-kids they have to be to be scared of talking about firearms.

Thank you, 2nd amendment.

But again, you don't know what he said. He very well could have said that he always carries a gun.

 

[daishi5]

Originally posted by: Evan
^ rofl. Ocguy31 FTL yet again. :laugh:

Nowhere does the teacher claim the student made any threats, nor is there any indication the student was acting in any threating manner. To be very blunt, calling the police and having them bring the student in for questioning is intimidation. The student gave a persuasive speech that the right of citizens to carry concealed weapons should extend to their time on a college campus, its not a brand new idea. The teacher responded by talking to her superiors, and they all decided that he might be a threat because he believed a citizen's right to bear arms did not suddenly vanish when he walks onto a college campus, and your ok with this?

The student should not be submitted to any form of harassment for exercising his right to free speech.

Or, should the fact that the student was speaking about a subject where you happen to disagree with him open him up to intimidation tactics?

 

[DealMonkey]

Who TF cares? No one suppressed this kids free speech rights. He made his oral presentation, right? He said what he wanted to say. The professor communicated his concerns to the dean, the cops investigated, no arrest was made. Nice little tempest in a teapot for rabid gun rights advocates though.

 

[Genx87]

What a joke.

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Yea not that faux would cover the facts but it does not say what he said in class. He could have said something to alarm a student and the teacher followed schools rules and reported it.


yea that can;t be it, must be the evil liberals. :roll:

Even the student did not want to talk about what happened when asked.

The students were given assignments to do a persuasive speech on something current event wise.

He spoke on letting teachers/students who have concealed carry licenses to carry on campus.

And like I said before it does not say what he said in that report and it doe snot say why the teacher called the police. he could have said I always have a gun on me and someone told the teacher he live son campus. If the teacher did not report then they could get fired.


Also this is a Fox story so we all know they never slant anything. :roll: Let alone even the kid did not wnat to talk to them.

http://therecorderonline.net/2...-student-presentation/

Thanks, that backs up what I and others said...

"They told Wahlberg that they had received a complaint from his professor that his presentation was making students feel ?scared and uncomfortable?."

A/some students had concerns and I bet policy/rules were that the teacher contact the school police.

Also the teacher talked with their boss...

"I seek guidance and consultation from the Chair of my Department, the Dean and any relevant University officials.?"

So it was not only the teacher that said to do this it seems.

Actually that makes a lot of sense, I could totally see something like this making some closed-minded freshmen uncomfortable. And in a situation like this, the teacher and administration's hands would probably be tied, it's not like they can just ignore the concerns of students, no matter how ridiculous.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: daishi5

Originally posted by: Evan
^ rofl. Ocguy31 FTL yet again. :laugh:

Nowhere does the teacher claim the student made any threats, nor is there any indication the student was acting in any threating manner. To be very blunt, calling the police and having them bring the student in for questioning is intimidation. The student gave a persuasive speech that the right of citizens to carry concealed weapons should extend to their time on a college campus, its not a brand new idea. The teacher responded by talking to her superiors, and they all decided that he might be a threat because he believed a citizen's right to bear arms did not suddenly vanish when he walks onto a college campus, and your ok with this?

The student should not be submitted to any form of harassment for exercising his right to free speech.

Or, should the fact that the student was speaking about a subject where you happen to disagree with him open him up to intimidation tactics?

If you honestly think a prof would report a student for simply talking about a person's right to carry concealed weapons on campus, the best conclusion I can come to is that you believe the prof is severely mentally handicapped in some way (possible but extremely unlikely).

The guy did have a stash of weapons registered under his name, and he was talking about the right to carry concealed weapons on campus, so for all we know the student insinuated he had carried concealed weapons on campus, and if that's illegal to do on campus the prof was justified.

Besides, no one deserves courtesy for carrying concealed weapons into school. Unless it's in your job description as a cop, officer, etc., it's just inane and incredibly dangerous.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: daishi5

Originally posted by: Evan
^ rofl. Ocguy31 FTL yet again. :laugh:

Nowhere does the teacher claim the student made any threats, nor is there any indication the student was acting in any threating manner. To be very blunt, calling the police and having them bring the student in for questioning is intimidation. The student gave a persuasive speech that the right of citizens to carry concealed weapons should extend to their time on a college campus, its not a brand new idea. The teacher responded by talking to her superiors, and they all decided that he might be a threat because he believed a citizen's right to bear arms did not suddenly vanish when he walks onto a college campus, and your ok with this?

The student should not be submitted to any form of harassment for exercising his right to free speech.

Or, should the fact that the student was speaking about a subject where you happen to disagree with him open him up to intimidation tactics?

If you honestly think a prof would report a student for simply talking about a person's right to carry concealed weapons on campus, the best conclusion I can come to is that you believe the prof is severely mentally handicapped in some way (possible but extremely unlikely).

The guy did have a stash of weapons registered under his name, and he was talking about the right to carry concealed weapons on campus, so for all we know the student insinuated he had carried concealed weapons on campus, and if that's illegal to do on campus the prof was justified.

Besides, no one deserves courtesy for carrying concealed weapons into school. Unless it's in your job description as a cop, officer, etc., it's just inane and incredibly dangerous.

By the same token, for all we know, the professor did report him for talking about a subject she disagreed with, and for all we know, he gave no intimation of carrying already on campus.

Hypocrite.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Unless he said "I think everyone should have a gun on campus, and I have one now", or made threats, I hope this teacher is fired.

What a bunch of little urban bubble-kids they have to be to be scared of talking about firearms.

Thank you, 2nd amendment.

Yea how dare the teacher talk to the chair of the dept and dean and then follow school policy. :roll:


So hows that mat working out for ya?

Guaranteed the teacher will not be fired for doing what her bosses recommend she do. For the record, this is the way things are supposed to work.

Student says something that makes students and/or teacher scared. Teacher confers with bosses about what to do. Bosses decide to err on side of protecting student body. Police are called to investigate a potential problem. Police treat suspect with respect and confirm that there's nothing illegal going on. School backs off.

I'm not sure where the problem is except in mind of OP who couldn't possibly know if the students and/or professor had just cause to feel worried.

:thumbsup:

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: yowolabi
Sounds like the teacher was legitimately scared,

Then said "teacher" shouldn't be teaching if they are scared of people expressing views that differ from hers about guns.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
She was concerned he was keeping the firearms on campus housing, which is illegal.

So if I give a presentation on why marijuana should be legalized, I can expect to be called down to the police station for questioning if the teacher is concerned that I am doing something illegal?

 

[First]

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: daishi5

Originally posted by: Evan
^ rofl. Ocguy31 FTL yet again. :laugh:

Nowhere does the teacher claim the student made any threats, nor is there any indication the student was acting in any threating manner. To be very blunt, calling the police and having them bring the student in for questioning is intimidation. The student gave a persuasive speech that the right of citizens to carry concealed weapons should extend to their time on a college campus, its not a brand new idea. The teacher responded by talking to her superiors, and they all decided that he might be a threat because he believed a citizen's right to bear arms did not suddenly vanish when he walks onto a college campus, and your ok with this?

The student should not be submitted to any form of harassment for exercising his right to free speech., should the fact that the student was speaking about a subject where you happen to disagree with him open him up to intimidation tactics?

If you honestly think a prof would report a student for simply talking about a person's right to carry concealed weapons on campus, the best conclusion I can come to is that you believe the prof is severely mentally handicapped in some way (possible but extremely unlikely).

The guy did have a stash of weapons registered under his name, and he was talking about the right to carry concealed weapons on campus, so for all we know the student insinuated he had carried concealed weapons on campus, and if that's illegal to do on campus the prof was justified.

Besides, no one deserves courtesy for carrying concealed weapons into school. Unless it's in your job description as a cop, officer, etc., it's just inane and incredibly dangerous.

By the same token, for all we know, the professor did report him for talking about a subject she disagreed with, and for all we know, he gave no intimation of carrying already on campus.

Hypocrite.

You didn't read carefully. I never claimed I knew either way.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Unless he said "I think everyone should have a gun on campus, and I have one now", or made threats, I hope this teacher is fired.

What a bunch of little urban bubble-kids they have to be to be scared of talking about firearms.

Thank you, 2nd amendment.

But again, you don't know what he said. He very well could have said that he always carries a gun.

He also could have said that he is turned on by rubbing his nipples with uncooked spaghetti noodles. What is your point?

Im sure that would have come out if it was the case.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Unless he said "I think everyone should have a gun on campus, and I have one now", or made threats, I hope this teacher is fired.

What a bunch of little urban bubble-kids they have to be to be scared of talking about firearms.

Thank you, 2nd amendment.

But again, you don't know what he said. He very well could have said that he always carries a gun.

He also could have said that he is turned on by rubbing his nipples with uncooked spaghetti noodles. What is your point?

Im sure that would have come out if it was the case.

I'm just saying it's hard to take sides when you don't know what was said.

 

[dahunan]

Where are all the fucking retarded George Bush Republicans with their "If you've got nothing to hide" speeches???

I would rather any teach err on the side of caution when dealing with anything resembling this current generation of republican-neocon conservatives

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: yowolabi
Sounds like the teacher was legitimately scared,

Then said "teacher" shouldn't be teaching if they are scared of people expressing views that differ from hers about guns.

So your view - by analogy - is that if a student gives a very impassioned presentation in class about why it should be ok for every student to keep bomb-making and/or biological warfare materials in their dorm rooms, and as a result other students are scared, then in that case the TEACHER shouldn't be teaching? Have I got that right?

 

[PrinceofWands]

Yeah, it was a BAD situation. You can expect lawsuits very soon. I'm sure SCCC will be all over it, though I'm no longer on the board so I don't have the inside scoop.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: daishi5

Originally posted by: Evan
^ rofl. Ocguy31 FTL yet again. :laugh:

Nowhere does the teacher claim the student made any threats, nor is there any indication the student was acting in any threating manner. To be very blunt, calling the police and having them bring the student in for questioning is intimidation. The student gave a persuasive speech that the right of citizens to carry concealed weapons should extend to their time on a college campus, its not a brand new idea. The teacher responded by talking to her superiors, and they all decided that he might be a threat because he believed a citizen's right to bear arms did not suddenly vanish when he walks onto a college campus, and your ok with this?

The student should not be submitted to any form of harassment for exercising his right to free speech.

Or, should the fact that the student was speaking about a subject where you happen to disagree with him open him up to intimidation tactics?

If you honestly think a prof would report a student for simply talking about a person's right to carry concealed weapons on campus, the best conclusion I can come to is that you believe the prof is severely mentally handicapped in some way (possible but extremely unlikely).

The guy did have a stash of weapons registered under his name, and he was talking about the right to carry concealed weapons on campus, so for all we know the student insinuated he had carried concealed weapons on campus, and if that's illegal to do on campus the prof was justified.

Besides, no one deserves courtesy for carrying concealed weapons into school. Unless it's in your job description as a cop, officer, etc., it's just inane and incredibly dangerous.

No, actually it's not.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Yeah, it was a BAD situation. You can expect lawsuits very soon. I'm sure SCCC will be all over it, though I'm no longer on the board so I don't have the inside scoop.

Lawsuit for what ... wow.. LMAO

 

[Possessed Freak]

I find it hysterical when I talk about firearms and what I own to professors and staffers at the Uni I work at. The looks on their faces are priceless. However, they do get me back when they discuss the idea of Global Socialism... I am sure the look on my face is not as neutral as I hope it is. If I really want to confuse them, I could ask the question if the campus grounds covers the parking lot across the street...

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Yeah, it was a BAD situation. You can expect lawsuits very soon. I'm sure SCCC will be all over it, though I'm no longer on the board so I don't have the inside scoop.

Lawsuit for what ... wow.. LMAO

Are you kidding? People sue because their coffee is too hot. They sue because they fell while committing a felony and hurt themselves. You can sue for ANYTHING in America. I would be money there is a lawsuit filed over this eventually for SOMETHING.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
I find it hysterical when I talk about firearms and what I own to professors and staffers at the Uni I work at. The looks on their faces are priceless. However, they do get me back when they discuss the idea of Global Socialism... I am sure the look on my face is not as neutral as I hope it is. If I really want to confuse them, I could ask the question if the campus grounds covers the parking lot across the street...

You all have some seriously whacked out professors. I was asked to speak in a couple dozen classrooms when I took the Campus Leader position for SCCC. I was invited to colleges all over the west coast once I became a Regional Director. Professors and administrators have LOVED having us as a resource and are constantly having us do presentations, debates, etc.

 

[daishi5]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: daishi5

Originally posted by: Evan
^ rofl. Ocguy31 FTL yet again. :laugh:

Nowhere does the teacher claim the student made any threats, nor is there any indication the student was acting in any threating manner. To be very blunt, calling the police and having them bring the student in for questioning is intimidation. The student gave a persuasive speech that the right of citizens to carry concealed weapons should extend to their time on a college campus, its not a brand new idea. The teacher responded by talking to her superiors, and they all decided that he might be a threat because he believed a citizen's right to bear arms did not suddenly vanish when he walks onto a college campus, and your ok with this?

The student should not be submitted to any form of harassment for exercising his right to free speech.

Or, should the fact that the student was speaking about a subject where you happen to disagree with him open him up to intimidation tactics?

If you honestly think a prof would report a student for simply talking about a person's right to carry concealed weapons on campus, the best conclusion I can come to is that you believe the prof is severely mentally handicapped in some way (possible but extremely unlikely).

The guy did have a stash of weapons registered under his name, and he was talking about the right to carry concealed weapons on campus, so for all we know the student insinuated he had carried concealed weapons on campus, and if that's illegal to do on campus the prof was justified.

Besides, no one deserves courtesy for carrying concealed weapons into school. Unless it's in your job description as a cop, officer, etc., it's just inane and incredibly dangerous.

I am sure you have statistics to back up your claim that it is insane and incredibly dangerous, and before you respond please remember several college campuses allow this already, so there is historical evidence that should support one of us.

Second, I must be in a different country, I could have sworn that you cannot call the police and have a person questioned because he gave a speech. This is not a second amendment issue, it is a first amendment issue. He gave a speech, unless you have proof that he did more, what the school did is harrasment and intimidation.

And thirdly, I notice you use the word, "stash." You may wish to try using more neutral words, like collection. Stash usually has illegal connotations, and this students arms were all registered, which makes them sound legal to me.

And finally, take a look at what you said, you claim the student must have done more, and that he insinuated that he had illegally carried his weapons on campus. If you require making up facts to make what the school did sound reasonable, don't you think that what the school did was unreasonable without your invented "facts?"