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Moonbeam

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Well I do consider you a stray.

Where do you think I'm looking? I am fully capable of loving myself and my life AND hoping and wanting better for all even if that serves me in no way.

If you knew me Moonster, you'd know I light up every room, even outdoor parties, the moment I arrive. Strangely, my brightness doesn't ruin darkness. It makes it better! SO THERE!
Well you're talking about a room and I'm talking about the universe so we'll just have to differ on what we call illumination.
 
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Younigue

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Well you're talking about a room and I'm talking about the universe so we'll just have to differ on what we call illumination.

LOL, you're fantastic littler feller! I am the Universe. And it's pretty and lively, lovely and bright and I am only confined to the rooms I'm in by the limitations and imagination you're assigning to me. That's cruelty and in no way limits or dulls me or dims my light. Your confinement of me does not confine or define me. Why you try so hard to make me less than you mister? Because that IS what you try to do to me and all.

You say you are nobody (you ARE somebody alright) but you strike with passivity and an obvious (to everyone but you) need to feel superior to the pathetically unlearned using a standard of your own making. It is your Universe that is small if it requires you to convert any one or allows you to give up and die a thousand deaths to feel numb. Numb is dumb, in your head, in your senses, in your interactions, in your heart, in your feelings, in your soul. You do this not for God, you do it for the shield. You are addicted to it not devoted to it and you are not safe to say that your epiphany protects you any better than any one else's shield protects them from pain. You're looking for a loophole and cheating yourself in the process.

My Universe is better than your Universe because I don't have to lie to myself to embrace it.
 

Moonbeam

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LOL, you're fantastic littler feller! I am the Universe. And it's pretty and lively, lovely and bright and I am only confined to the rooms I'm in by the limitations and imagination you're assigning to me. That's cruelty and in no way limits or dulls me or dims my light. Your confinement of me does not confine or define me. Why you try so hard to make me less than you mister? Because that IS what you try to do to me and all.

You say you are nobody (you ARE somebody alright) but you strike with passivity and an obvious (to everyone but you) need to feel superior to the pathetically unlearned using a standard of your own making. It is your Universe that is small if it requires you to convert any one or allows you to give up and die a thousand deaths to feel numb. Numb is dumb, in your head, in your senses, in your interactions, in your heart, in your feelings, in your soul. You do this not for God, you do it for the shield. You are addicted to it not devoted to it and you are not safe to say that your epiphany protects you any better than any one else's shield protects them from pain. You're looking for a loophole and cheating yourself in the process.

My Universe is better than your Universe because I don't have to lie to myself to embrace it.
I am a nobody. You don't seem to be able to get that through your head. Would you be happy if I tell you that you are a bigger nobody than I am. I only respond to you because you seem to have a need for me to do so. I am not interested at all in whatever this contest is. I do not care at all how you see me, but I want to be nice. It makes me sad that your views are so negative and that you have distress over them. I don't care at all how negatively you see me but when the thought that somebody as evil as I am in the world exists and that bothers you, that makes me feel bad. I do not want to see you suffer. I do not suffer because I am ok with it.

I posted in this thread to give something from which I got value. Moments later I get landed on by people with past histories and bones to pick. I don't much care for batting off all the distortions people create over me in somebody else's thread. I am not the point. I start a few threads now and then and in those, however people want to focus on me rather than the topic I present, I don't care. May your light grow brighter. Now I am out of here.
 

agent00f

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Michael Krasny: Breitbart enabler....
Michael Krasny, PhD, has been in broadcast journalism since 1983. He was with ABC in both radio and television and migrated to public broadcasting in 1993. He has been Professor of English at San Francisco State University and also taught at Stanford, the University of San Francisco and the University of California, as well as in the Fulbright International Institutes. A veteran interviewer for the nationally broadcast City Arts and Lectures, he is the author of a number of books, including “Off Mike: A Memoir of Talk Radio and Literary Life” (Stanford University Press) “Spiritual Envy” (New World); “Sound Ideas” (with M.E. Sokolik/ McGraw-Hill); “Let There Be Laughter” (Harper-Collins) as well as the twenty-four lecture series in DVD, audio and book, “Short Story Masterpieces” (The Teaching Company). He has interviewed many of the world’s leading political, cultural, literary, science and technology figures, as well as major figures from the world of entertainment. He is the recipient of many awards and honors including the S.Y. Agnon Medal for Intellectual Achievement; The Eugene Block Award for Human Rights Journalism; the James Madison Freedom of Information Award; the Excellence in Journalism Award from the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association; Career Achievement Award from the Society of Professional Journalists and an award from the Radio and Television News Directors Association. He holds a B.A. (cum laude) and M.A. from Ohio University and a PhD from the University of Wisconsin.

Great work proving the point by joining your new pals in playing dumb; it's just a fact Victor Davis Hanson is Breitbart trash.

I am a nobody. You don't seem to be able to get that through your head. Would you be happy if I tell you that you are a bigger nobody than I am. I only respond to you because you seem to have a need for me to do so. I am not interested at all in whatever this contest is. I do not care at all how you see me, but I want to be nice. It makes me sad that your views are so negative and that you have distress over them. I don't care at all how negatively you see me but when the thought that somebody as evil as I am in the world exists and that bothers you, that makes me feel bad. I do not want to see you suffer. I do not suffer because I am ok with it.

I posted in this thread to give something from which I got value. Moments later I get landed on by people with past histories and bones to pick. I don't much care for batting off all the distortions people create over me in somebody else's thread. I am not the point. I start a few threads now and then and in those, however people want to focus on me rather than the topic I present, I don't care. May your light grow brighter. Now I am out of here.

Same as with demonstrating cult lead wannabe sociopathy right on cue.
 

Younigue

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I am a nobody. You don't seem to be able to get that through your head. Would you be happy if I tell you that you are a bigger nobody than I am. I only respond to you because you seem to have a need for me to do so. I am not interested at all in whatever this contest is. I do not care at all how you see me, but I want to be nice. It makes me sad that your views are so negative and that you have distress over them. I don't care at all how negatively you see me but when the thought that somebody as evil as I am in the world exists and that bothers you, that makes me feel bad. I do not want to see you suffer. I do not suffer because I am ok with it.

I posted in this thread to give something from which I got value. Moments later I get landed on by people with past histories and bones to pick. I don't much care for batting off all the distortions people create over me in somebody else's thread. I am not the point. I start a few threads now and then and in those, however people want to focus on me rather than the topic I present, I don't care. May your light grow brighter. Now I am out of here.

It's very telling that you see me as a negative person. It's also telling that you have allowed yourself to be angry with me. Does my light shine brighter than yours? Do not darken your own light and point to me and say, see it's darker! Then blame me.

This contest...? Was it of wills? Because mine appears to have endured while yours abandoned you. It should be mentioned, you saw a contest and always seem to. It's just usually one where you are convinced you can break someone down or that you're winning because they just don't understand. Both empty victories, if only because you must lie to yourself. You crumble when you lose hope that you have the upper hand because you won't allow yourself to see that it's just a hand, no better than anyone else's hand. You ran from me Moonadoodledoo. You stuck around to be "nice"? We both know that's not true. You were thinking you liked me but tonight you changed your mind. Ask yourself why? I've done nothing to you except turn your own words against you and doubt them at every turn. If you're mad at me, you're truly mad at yourself. You're feeling this in too big a way to support your I-have-all-the-answers,come-to-Jesus pov. I won't apologize for rattling your resolve. You must learn from it, grow from it and begin to face the world without your addicts shield but instead face it with trust in self. The Universe or God won't give it to you. The energy stream also can not give it to you. Enjoy life, don't be cowed in to submission by it.

You ARE somebody!
DON'T call me nobody! However, thank you. Follow my logic here... You're a nobody and proud of it, goal achieved kind of thing right? You called me more of a nobody than you, That means I achieved your goals morer/betterer than you. I bet you didn't see that one coming but still your tantrum here tonight was beneath you. You couldn't withstand the scrutiny because there are missing parts to your enlightenment. We are not designed to abandon ego entirely, we must tame it just as we do our id and then love life fully with our hearts open. Your spirit would not have chosen a human experience only for you to reject it.

Any way Moonly, I forgive you this outburst. We can move on never having to discuss it further. I won't however stop challenging you to challenge yourself. <--- or is that the contest you're accusing me of? *smh* I barely have anything at all to do with that.

Besties For Life!

P.S. I don't think you are evil. Never said any such thing. Misguided and conveniently stunted, yeah but that's not evil. That's a work in progress. Keep up the (for the time being) tiresome work! I have faith in you!

P.S.S. I'm not attacking you, I'm challenging you. Your faith should not only accept it but embrace it with a light heart and enduring, beautiful confidence.
 
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dank69

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You're a goofball! We are here to ask questions. Having all the answers makes living boring!

I most certainly don't want you in a box but the one you've got yourself in requires some breathing holes. Oxygen deprived is just no way to carry on a conversation. I'm not sure why I have to tell you that.

I do believe you are missing my point by a mile though I admit to not really making one. Don't judge ALL liberals in one fell swoop. Do you think I judge all conservatives/Republicans as one? I am typically very clear with distinguishing Trumpublicans/Cult 45's from their saner kin. There is a-madness a-spreadin' and is true cause for concern. No amount of your out-there-and-right addresses it. It excuses it to a degree and even surrenders to it at times but moonstream darlin' most of us don't want to give up and die because you promote your metaphorical deaths as a real hootenanny (as long as we put no value in the joy or horror of it <---- OMG, S'Lame)!

I kind of feel like you're mooning all of us like 100% of the time. Words of wisdom: that ass of yours might get chapped if you're not careful <--- sounds uncomfortable!

*boop* I can't quit [booping] you.
There are no "saner" conservatives. You have to be either a drooling moron or a stubborn piece of shit to support any conservative policy at this point. Every last one of them knows this deep down which is why for the past 10 years on this forum not a single one of them has come on here to advance one of their policies. Their entire posting history consists of using tortured logic to defend shit policy in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence, and blaming liberals for all of life's problems.
 

Younigue

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There are no "saner" conservatives. You have to be either a drooling moron or a stubborn piece of shit to support any conservative policy at this point. Every last one of them knows this deep down which is why for the past 10 years on this forum not a single one of them has come on here to advance one of their policies. Their entire posting history consists of using tortured logic to defend shit policy in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence, and blaming liberals for all of life's problems.

Well, I know and love some conservative people. I do not consider them insane.

The conservatives that come to this forum are not a particularly good representation with which to judge all. I would also hesitate to call them conservatives. They are something all together different, often including hate and rage. They would say the same of progressives though that is not what I see. I see a lot frustration and a sense of hopelessness that jerko's like to brand intolerant rage among many other trending words. We use these terms as well.

Any way, I will never damn a group of similarly minded people because we are all individuals after all but I will damn words and intentions based on hate, ignorance and intolerance (from my own perspective of course). Empathy only goes so far and I am generous with it. That generosity does not come in to play when the purity of ones words and intentions are heinous. Their backgrounds and stories will never be enough for me to say, I see your point.

Back to the point, it's a mistake to paint all of any specific group of people with one big ass brush ( loaded up with one color or one belief).

The conservative agenda's being pushed in House? I'll hate those all day, every day. The support they're getting is deeply upsetting to me. It does feel at times like hate is winning but it can't, not for long. It's not within us, we just don't have the stamina or true desire to let it stand with any permanence. For us or even them. There will be Collateral damage to contend with but as humans we will thrive and survive it.
 
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zinfamous

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If you have time you may find this program from Forum on KQED to be interesting. It talks about two Californias and how they see each other. I love the host, a profoundly educated and liberal man who is willing to allow people with a wide range of views to speak and to listen intelligently. Liberals generally are not, I think:

https://ww2.kqed.org/forum/2017/07/...lks-californias-decline-and-political-divide/

Michael Krasney is great, and one of the best NPR personalities anywhere. I desperately miss Forum, being out here on the least coast.
 

zinfamous

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The hoover institute is a conservative think tank and this guy is a literal neocon piece of shit who pretends to be a democrat. But great work angling for a job at Breitbart.

and you are as ignorant a sockpuppet as this forum as ever seen. Does it ever get lonely, being the sole white knight for whatever you call your brand of "true, pure liberalism," where the only "true non-racism" exists in the tiny circle you have drawn around yourself?

Your posts have been in buckshat territory for far too long.
 

agent00f

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and you are as ignorant a sockpuppet as this forum as ever seen. Does it ever get lonely, being the sole white knight for whatever you call your brand of "true, pure liberalism," where the only "true non-racism" exists in the tiny circle you have drawn around yourself?

Your posts have been in buckshat territory for far too long.

The simple reason why liberals lose despite arguably every other advantage in the book is because so many are so easy to play. Speaking of the guy, take a while to ponder why buckshot types vastly prefer stringing along your lot than deal with me any day. But I know, they're so "dumb" and ur so "smart".
 

xthetenth

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Younigue,: Answer me Moonman! What do the Republicans have over Liberals?

M: They are excellent geese or canaries for a mine. As the most paranoid and subject to the emotion of fear they make excellent detectors on the rare occasions when there is a real danger to be paranoid about. This is a vital survival trait that goes into action like a knee jerk, long before a plodding intellectual liberal knows the pot is boiling and it's too late to jump out. This is a skill we had that saved our precursor's bacon long before we learned to reason and still has survival value.

Conservatives also have a larger pallet of moral concerns all of which, similarly, enhance the chances of human survival.

I could go on. My father liked Reagan and Nixon and I loved him.

Is a smoke detector that goes off when air has oxygen in it more useful just because it goes off more frequently?

Also, how do the larger set of concerns which conservatives engage with on the level of morality enhance the chances of human survival? You are making a heavy claim here. Enumerate those concerns and describe in detail how they enhance the chances of human survival. For bonus points display how they aren't driven from a perspective of enforcing rules on others for the conservatives' comfort so they don't have to expand their perspective.

I love the host, a profoundly educated and liberal man who is willing to allow people with a wide range of views to speak and to listen intelligently. Liberals generally are not, I think:

Why is it that you think liberals generally aren't willing to allow people to speak and listen intelligently? Do you think that criticism of ideas springs fully formed from Zeus' head? No. Criticism of ideas is a respectful act because it is based on both a willingness to engage with the other party's ideas and carries the implied respect to the other party that you expect them to play by similar rules. All I ask is that people listen to my criticisms of their ideas in turn when they offer ideas opposite to me. If they refuse, then the knives come out and disrespect is met with disrespect because they are no longer contributing.

I don't ask that everyone thinks like me, just that they think. If someone repeats the same thing to me and ignores what I say, we never were having a conversation in the first place.
 

zinfamous

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The simple reason why liberals lose despite arguably every other advantage in the book is because so many are so easy to play. Speaking of the guy, take a while to ponder why buckshot types vastly prefer stringing along your lot than deal with me any day. But I know, they're so "dumb" and ur so "smart".

oh yes, I am the smart one that thinks so highly of myself. buckshat ignores you because you are that exception that they believe to be the majority of liberals. You represent their worst assumptions of liberals, so you simply exist as an example to prove them right in their minds.

They don't need to bother with you, because you stand their and they nod, approvingly.
 

agent00f

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oh yes, I am the smart one that thinks so highly of myself. buckshat ignores you because you are that exception that they believe to be the majority of liberals. You represent their worst assumptions of liberals, so you simply exist as an example to prove them right in their minds.

They don't need to bother with you, because you stand their and they nod, approvingly.

So you agree they think of your lot as the best liberals, you know the ones who'll always insist they're dumb instead of degenerate no matter the factual evidence. Again, instead of instinctively agreeing with them over me, take some time to ponder why that is.
 

zinfamous

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So you agree they think of your lot as the best liberals, you know the ones who'll always insist they're dumb instead of degenerate no matter the factual evidence. Again, instead of instinctively agreeing with them over me, take some time to ponder why that is.

why do you support their idea of politics being about team sports? why do you continue to feed the narrative that they need in order to survive? I don't get it.
 

agent00f

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why do you support their idea of politics being about team sports? why do you continue to feed the narrative that they need in order to survive? I don't get it.

No, I'm hardly the liberals who think of politics as a rigmarole back and forth between themselves and conservatives. That's the fair and balanced narrative of fox news which you do love to endorse no matter the factual reality. And that factual reality is that liberals absolutely suck at politics compared to people with moral values designed for it.
 

zinfamous

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That's right, I love Fox News and their messaging. It makes lots of sense.

Also this:

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:D anyone else have this warning, yet?
 

Azuma Hazuki

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Yeah, I got this one too earlier. Methinks the profanity filter has had a little too much coffee (covfefe?)
 

zinfamous

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Yeah, I got this one too earlier. Methinks the profanity filter has had a little too much coffee (covfefe?)

I see. esquared and I are having a back and forth trying to figure it out:

c*ck bad! ("u" not "o") :(
motherfucker good! :)
f*ck bad! :(
fucker good! :)
buckshit good! :)

EDIT: he can post these things, while I can not. It is probably user-specific "features." The forum robots have identified you and I as troublemakers.
 
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