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Kev

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is the answer intuitive or do you need to know geometry theorems, because i havent had geometry in like 9 years
 

Vertimus

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Originally posted by: Kev
is the answer intuitive or do you need to know geometry theorems, because i havent had geometry in like 9 years

Stuff you learned in algebra 1 should be enough.
 

GoodToGo

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Originally posted by: Vertimus
Originally posted by: Kev
is the answer intuitive or do you need to know geometry theorems, because i havent had geometry in like 9 years

Stuff you learned in algebra 1 should be enough.

Allright Einstein, since you know the solution, quit acting cocky and spill the solution out.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: Vertimus
Originally posted by: Kev
is the answer intuitive or do you need to know geometry theorems, because i havent had geometry in like 9 years

Stuff you learned in algebra 1 should be enough.

just tell us if you're gonna keep bumping, but rest assured noone really cares. i hate to break it to ya
 

LoneDust

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make a new point X 6 units from P on PC, and you'll have two isosceles triangles BXP and EXP. When you combine both you get the trangle BXE, with the angle X = 90 degrees. Since BP = 7 = PE, BXE is also isosceles. Hence you get the angles on BPC, CPE, EPF, FPB, all 90 degrees. Once you know BE is perpendicular to FC, everything sleep is trivial.
 

Lithium381

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yeah wow, that would take a while, i remember i USED to know how to do those, but i don't have time to look for those now
 

DOSfan

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Originally posted by: LoneDust
make a new point X 6 units from P on PC, and you'll have two isosceles triangles BXP and EXP. When you combine both you get the trangle BXE, with the angle X = 90 degrees. Since BP = 7 = PE, BXE is also isosceles. Hence you get the angles on BPC, CPE, EPF, FPB, all 90 degrees. Once you know BE is perpendicular to FC, everything sleep is trivial.

No good.

You can not assume angle X (in triangle BXE) = 90 degrees.

EDIT: Nevermind. My advanced math from over a decade ago is catching up with me now. :disgust:

EDIT2: But how do you know that BXE is also isosceles?
 

43st

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Bump...

You don't need any angles. Basically there's only one way for a triangle shade to surround a 6 pointed object with all points touching the outer triangle. Assume that the 20 length intersects the other lines and you can only have one answer (see above). It's a simple (or not so simple) matter of drawing the object so all points meet the walls of the triangle.

Hint: adjusting the angle between the two 12 lengths is what allows the 20 length to fit properly. The trick is that you can't adjust the 20 length until after you've changed your angle because it will effect the outer triangle.
 

TGregg

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Originally posted by: LoneDust
make a new point X 6 units from P on PC, and you'll have two isosceles triangles BXP and EXP. When you combine both you get the trangle BXE, with the angle X = 90 degrees. Since BP = 7 = PE, BXE is also isosceles. Hence you get the angles on BPC, CPE, EPF, FPB, all 90 degrees. Once you know BE is perpendicular to FC, everything sleep is trivial.


BP=6=PE (just a typo, I presume). But I don't see how you get bx=xe to make the triangle isosceles. As far as I can tell, we've got one side and one angle on BXE. We don't even have PX as the true height, because we don't know that PX bisects the right angle, right?
 

nife4

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damn... i wanna try the problem but this damn network i'm on won't let me get to the site....
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Vertimus
Originally posted by: DeathByAnts
Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: Vertimus
Originally posted by: warcrow
42

42 is INCORRECT

no, the triangle is incorrect.


I declare you must first find the question!

The question is "Is our children learning areas and shapes?"

I hope so, because they obviously aren't learning English
 

Nitemare

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All you guys are wrong...

The correct answer is.....
























42. It's unsolvable unless you know at least one angle measurement or all 3 sides of a triangle
 

TheSavage

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solve for triangle BEC and FBC. Solve for angle B, then C. The rest is easy.

Edit: First solve CEp Then BFp. These give you FB and EC. With these, BEC and FBC are solved. A little more geometry yields BC being 13 and angles B & C being approximately 67.38 degrees. Angle A is therefore 45.24 degrees.

Questions, comments, words of wisdom?
 

CPA

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I have the answer! But I won't give it until Vertimus shows his first. Then I will confirm what I had. Sorry, but just can't trust that we're not doing your homework for you, n00b.
 

Match

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Originally posted by: LoneDust
make a new point X 6 units from P on PC, and you'll have two isosceles triangles BXP and EXP. When you combine both you get the trangle BXE, with the angle X = 90 degrees. Since BP = 7 = PE, BXE is also isosceles. Hence you get the angles on BPC, CPE, EPF, FPB, all 90 degrees. Once you know BE is perpendicular to FC, everything sleep is trivial.
I don't think that you can assume triangle BXE is isosceles.

Originally posted by: Thera
Bump...

You don't need any angles. Basically there's only one way for a triangle shade to surround a 6 pointed object with all points touching the outer triangle. Assume that the 20 length intersects the other lines and you can only have one answer (see above). It's a simple (or not so simple) matter of drawing the object so all points meet the walls of the triangle.

Hint: adjusting the angle between the two 12 lengths is what allows the 20 length to fit properly. The trick is that you can't adjust the 20 length until after you've changed your angle because it will effect the outer triangle.
I kind of follow what you're saying. I understand that there can only be one solution given the information, but I don't see how to derive that solution.

Originally posted by: TheSavage
solve for triangle BEC and FBC. Solve for angle B, then C. The rest is easy.
Could you explain how you do this? I'm at a loss.

Originally posted by: CPA
I have the answer! But I won't give it until Vertimus shows his first. Then I will confirm what I had. Sorry, but just can't trust that we're not doing your homework for you, n00b.
Any hints on how you approached the problem for the rest of us?