I bought it for my dad and me.

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JS80

Lifer
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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: eakers
You must be really passionate about grammar, you have posted in this thread quite a bit

but i am passionate about people who tries to speak like they're smart when they're not

Okay you're right. You win at grammar.

nice editing
 

NogginBoink

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Originally posted by: edprush
Originally posted by: JS80
"For my dad and I" is what dumb people trying to act smart say.

I hear it all the time and when I try to politely correct them they always tell me I'm wrong and that you are always to use "I".

You're right and they're wrong.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: edprush
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I bought it for my dad and myself.

I hear that too but I'm too dumb to know how to properly refute that one....

Why is "myself" correct or incorrect?

after some research it is correct because it is the word referred to by the preposition "for". Therefore you use me/myself instead of I
 

NogginBoink

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Originally posted by: edprush
Originally posted by: eakers
the way you know is you remove the the other persons name

"i bought it for I"
"I bought it for me"

That's what I thought (and the way I say and write it) but you would be surprised how often people correct me.

I know the test is to remove the first pronoun or noun but I think there is a 'reason' it's that way but I don't know why.

"Dad and I went to the store" dad and I are both the subject of the sentence.

"I bought it for dad and me" dad and me are both direct objects of the preposition 'for.'

(Mrs. Lamb, my senior high English teacher, would be so proud of me!)

Edit: Rats, you're correct about using 'myself,' I believe.
 

JS80

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: edprush
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I bought it for my dad and myself.

I hear that too but I'm too dumb to know how to properly refute that one....

Why is "myself" correct or incorrect?

since you're using "dad" you have to be parallel (dunno if that's the right term) and use me.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: eakers
You must be really passionate about grammar, you have posted in this thread quite a bit

but i am passionate about people who tries to speak like they're smart when they're not

Okay you're right. You win at grammar.

nice editing

You fail at forum knowledge:

"Edited: 03/21/2006 at 10:21 PM by JS80 "

I agree I like your editing!
 

JS80

Lifer
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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: eakers
You must be really passionate about grammar, you have posted in this thread quite a bit

but i am passionate about people who tries to speak like they're smart when they're not

Okay you're right. You win at grammar.

nice editing

You fail at forum knowledge:

"Edited: 03/21/2006 at 10:21 PM by JS80 "

I agree I like your editing!

:p
 

bersl2

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Originally posted by: edprush
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I bought it for my dad and myself.

I hear that too but I'm too dumb to know how to properly refute that one....

"Myself" is a reflexive pronoun, which means that you can use it in a sentence of the form "I [verb]ed myself," and it also acts as an emphasizer of "I" or "me", as in "I myself [verb]ed [object]."

EDIT: However, now that I think about it, if you changed the sentence to "I bought it for my dad and for myself," I think it would be OK.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: bersl2
Originally posted by: edprush
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I bought it for my dad and myself.

I hear that too but I'm too dumb to know how to properly refute that one....

"Myself" is a reflexive pronoun, which means that you can use it in a sentence of the form "I fvcked myself," and it also acts as an emphasizer of "I" or "me", as in "I myself [verb]ed [object]."

Fixed

 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: eakers
the way you know is you remove the the other persons name

"i bought it for I"
"I bought it for me"

FOR THE WIN!
Actually, the correct answer is "I bought it for myself."
 

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: eakers
the way you know is you remove the the other persons name

"i bought it for I"
"I bought it for me"

correct

Yep. That's how I learned it too. Just put them in one at a time to figure out which to use.

I went to the store,
Me went to the store.

The idea came to I
The idea came to Me.

Dad and I went to the store
THe idea came to Dad and me.
 

bersl2

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: edprush
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I bought it for my dad and myself.

I hear that too but I'm too dumb to know how to properly refute that one....

Why is "myself" correct or incorrect?

would you say, "I bought it for me" or "I bought it for myself"

I think we need to make the distinction between what is technically correct and what is in common use.

In all likelyhood, we---and by "we", I really mean "I"---would say "myself" alone but also "my dad and me". I think that "my dad and myself" and "me" alone would both be correct but awkward.

The root of the problem is that we use "me" to express the objective case of "I", and we use "myself" to express the reflexive use of "I", but objectivity and reflexivity are not mutually exclusive. For example, in this case, in Latin, you can express "for me/myself" with the dative; and although in the first and second persons the reflexive pronouns are the same as the personal ones, in the third person they are different, i.e.:

case personal reflexive
nominative is N/A
genitive eius sui
dative ei sibi
accusative eum se
ablative eo se

Anyway, the point is that having cases while being caseless makes for some genuine weirdness. English is such a fscked up language. But that's what makes it so damn fun.
 

edprush

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: edprush
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I bought it for my dad and myself.

I hear that too but I'm too dumb to know how to properly refute that one....

Why is "myself" correct or incorrect?

would you say, "I bought it for me" or "I bought it for myself"
Weird....the more I read this "I bought it for myself" the more the word "myself" sounds redundant. My=self