I bought a stick car...and never drove stick before :(

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Generally the RPMs will be around 2300 when I did it in 1st.

Please tell me you're well past that point now... You should not need 2,300 RPM to take off from a stop. For the first couple weeks, sure, but not all the time.

ZV

It all depends if I am first at the stop light or not 😉

 

[Tarrant64]

About killing/destroying a clutch by driving it the "wrong" way is bogus IMHO. My friend a few years back in highschool taught 5 people to drive a stick on the same 97 civic, mainly because they were potheads and if you're not smokin' your driving. Needless to say I got a lot of pracice. He didn't know how to drive himself when he first got it so basically you have more than 5 people beating the hell out of a clutch. Especially me, it took me a few months to get used to 1st gear to 2nd. I would either grind it or shift so hard you could spill your soda.

that car lasted 3 years. the only reason it's gone now, is beacuse he kept wrecking it. 4 accidents, last one totaled it. he then got a 97 accord, stick, and we beat the hell out of that one too. we were all pretty good by then not to do too much damage to the clutch.

Now I can drive one just fine, even though my current car is an automatic, I'm no longer afraid to get into another car that's a stick and drive it around. takes me only a few lights to get used to the clutch now.


except this one cobra I drove one. Clutch felt like a brick, hard to move and get going. only car I've ever been in that did that.

drove a nissan stick once, it felt like heaven. everything felt perfect. been in another honda, and didn't like it. I'm not saying their crap, just like everyone else has been saying, every car is different. I never noticed the RPM's I was shifting at really. I knew when I was giving it a little bit too much, especially if I was on an insane hill, but better than rolling back into the car behind me.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: Tarrant64
except this one cobra I drove one. Clutch felt like a brick, hard to move and get going. only car I've ever been in that did that.

My wife says the same of my clutch. Her Accord's clutch feels like a feather

 

[yelo333]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Generally the RPMs will be around 2300 when I did it in 1st.

Please tell me you're well past that point now... You should not need 2,300 RPM to take off from a stop. For the first couple weeks, sure, but not all the time.

ZV

Even in a torqueless civic?

Anything below 2 grand, and the thing lugs horribly when taking off. That or I could let the clutch slip for 2-3 seconds.

Maybe I need to add throttle more progressively? I'll work on that tomorrow. 🙂

<- A n00b MT driver, like the OP

And, to the OP, I found these videos to be fun & instructional. I like the way the guy explains things. And his car. 😛

Another thing I've noticed is that it helps if you don't think about it. I have a feeling that as long as you aren't peeling the tires or stalling, you're probably OK.

Not to hijack the thread or anything, but how hard is it on the car when you get the thud from an abrupt upshift? 1-2 takes far too long for me to do properly when I'm pulling out into traffic. I blame it on the rev hang from the DBW...

Edit: fix grammar

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: yelo333

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Generally the RPMs will be around 2300 when I did it in 1st.

Please tell me you're well past that point now... You should not need 2,300 RPM to take off from a stop. For the first couple weeks, sure, but not all the time.

ZV

Even in a torqueless civic?

Anything below 2 grand, and the thing lugs horribly when taking off. That or I could let the clutch slip for 2-3 seconds.

Maybe I need to add throttle more progressively? I'll work on that tomorrow. 🙂

<- A n00b MT driver, like the OP

And, to the OP, I found these videos to be fun & instructional. I like the way the guy explains things. And his car. 😛

Another thing I've noticed is that it helps if you don't think about it. I have a feeling that as long as you aren't peeling the tires or stalling, you're probably OK.

Not to hijack the thread or anything, but how hard is it on the car when you get the thud from an abrupt upshift? 1-2 takes far too long for me to do properly when you're pulling out into traffic. I blame it on the rev hang from the DBW...

Even on a Civic. My old 914 has all of 95 hp and about 100 ft-lbs of torque and even it doesn't need more than about 1,200 RPM to take off. My 951 has next to no power off boost (read: below 3,500 RPM) and it only needs 1,000-1,200 RPM to take off. Granted, those are both for normal street driving where you don't need to get off the line terribly fast, but 2,300 RPM is high, even for that.

An abrupt shift (either up or down) is hard on the clutch center and on the differential ring and pinion. However, unless you're really, really, really pounding on things, it's nothing to worry about.

ZV

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Even on a Civic. My old 914 has all of 95 hp and about 100 ft-lbs of torque and even it doesn't need more than about 1,200 RPM to take off. My 951 has next to no power off boost (read: below 3,500 RPM) and it only needs 1,000-1,200 RPM to take off. Granted, those are both for normal street driving where you don't need to get off the line terribly fast, but 2,300 RPM is high, even for that.

An abrupt shift (either up or down) is hard on the clutch center and on the differential ring and pinion. However, unless you're really, really, really pounding on things, it's nothing to worry about.

ZV

My Super Beetle, though it lacks a tach, only needs about the same range with it's 40hp engine (but it is torquey, I forget the number, maybe 65?)