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I believe in God I just don't believe the bible

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Which are you?

  • Yes I am Christian and believe the bible

  • yes I am Chrisitan/or other and don't believe the bible

  • Agnostic

  • Atheist

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You seem to be in denial about your belief, mammador.

You feel frustrated or act in denial. And you purposely ignore the logics presented to you.

You want to believe SOMETHING, but you don't want to be confronted or articulate what it is that you exactly believe in the fear of change.
 
Onceler said:
Christian but not a believer in every thing I hear or read(especially any thing by Paul to me he is the usurper of Christianity).
I also believe in Karma and working off debts through many lifetimes.
am I alone in these beliefs?
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So, what's a Christian?
 
So you bible believers, how old is the universe?

Prove it, the explain why we are just now seeing light that has traveled for millions of years to get here.
 
MtnMan said:
So you bible believers, how old is the universe?

Prove it, the explain why we are just now seeing light that has traveled for millions of years to get here.
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Would it be weird if I believe that the universe is millions of years old, and still identify as a Christian?
 
DDRGamer said:
Would it be weird if I believe that the universe is millions of years old, and still identify as a Christian?
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Yeah, because you're throwing out the whole 6000 year thing for another likely incorrect figure. You might as well go with the scientifically accepted 13.8 billion years if you're departing from creationist beliefs in that specific area.
 
SlitheryDee said:
Yeah, because you're throwing out the whole 6000 year thing for another likely incorrect figure. You might as well go with the scientifically accepted 13.8 billion years if you're departing from creationist beliefs in that specific area.
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And God said,
 
I do not believe in the Bible and don't buy 95% what "the Church" says, so I guess I cannot be a "Christian".

Then again, I don't reject the idea of Jesus and have no reason to believe he didn't exist. I agree pretty much to what J. said, from a spiritual perspective.

Whether a god, as an ENTITY exists...I don't know. Who knows, we all might be god..or god is something entirely beyond our comprehension. A creator I also do NOT necessarily reject.

I believe that our "soul" is not bound to the body which means I believe in "the afterlife" (better: in-between lives)...multiple lives and I also don't reject the idea of reincarnation. I definitely believe that our "true self" is more than our physical aspect here in this physical reality.

So..I assume this is what you would call spiritual.....or agnostic...
 
DDRGamer said:
Would it be weird if I believe that the universe is millions of years old, and still identify as a Christian?
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If you don't trust to bible to tell you where you came from, how can you possibly believe it when it tells you where you're going? The history should be the easy part, if it's really the word of god the authors could not possibly have fucked up the story of creation by billions of years. Once you accept that the beginning is pure bullshit, doesn't the rest of it also fall apart in your mind? It has to be that way, all or nothing, you believe it or you don't believe it. Period.
 
Zeze said:
This.

If you believe in Judeo-Christian god, but reject the bible, then technically you're not a Christian.
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If you believe that christ died for your sins and accept him into your heart, you are golden, even if you sin a shitload and don't follow the bible, that is the main thing.
 
DDRGamer said:
Would it be weird if I believe that the universe is millions of years old, and still identify as a Christian?
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Yes, because you would be basically refuting the Bible's claim of how many generations of humans came before Christ, which is clearly stated (or, claimed incorrectly).

The fossil record categorically proves that the Bible (in Numbers, specifically) is WRONG.
 
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flexy said:
I do not believe in the Bible and don't buy 95% what "the Church" says, so I guess I cannot be a "Christian".

Then again, I don't reject the idea of Jesus and have no reason to believe he didn't exist. I agree pretty much to what J. said, from a spiritual perspective.

Whether a god, as an ENTITY exists...I don't know. Who knows, we all might be god..or god is something entirely beyond our comprehension. A creator I also do NOT necessarily reject.

I believe that our "soul" is not bound to the body which means I believe in "the afterlife" (better: in-between lives)...multiple lives and I also don't reject the idea of reincarnation. I definitely believe that our "true self" is more than our physical aspect here in this physical reality.

So..I assume this is what you would call spiritual.....or agnostic...
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What evidence have you seen that supports the existence of a soul?

What evidence have you seen that supports the existence of an afterlife?

What evidence have you seen that supports the concept of multiple lives in any way?
 
ThinClient said:
Yes, because you would be basically refuting the Bible's claim of how many generations of humans came before Christ, which is clearly stated (or, claimed incorrectly).

The fossil record categorically proves that the Bible (in Numbers, specifically) is WRONG.
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This is based on the assumption that all time periods stated (generations, years, etc) are taken at face value?

If we allow for interpretation between Hebrew, Greek and English variances (as well as pockets of lost content), is it still viable as a historical document?
 
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