I am this close to driving down to fremont...

[imported_goku]

I've been banging my head against the proverbial wall long enough trying to figure out this ****** board. My IC7-G board has been driving me insane and knowing that abit's board supply is that of defective boards doesn't help cool me down one bit. For the past 8 months I've been dealing with mushkin and abit, I rma'ed my original board I bought back in '04 because the sensors were outta whack, I then get the RMA board back which appears to work excellent, I then get my mushkin Redlines XP4000 2X1GB modules and try to run them but they error a LoT.

I RMA the modules with mushkin closely working with me trying to resolve the issue, the modules come back but still don't work, though do perform better, I send them back and then they test out another pair of modules before sending them to me to very high speeds on their 865pe based system and they send them out, same story and issue.

I then decide that it's the board's problem and RMA the board, I get another board from abit and it actually passes mem tests higher than the initial RMA board at 235mhz instead of 225. But this is still significantly different from what it SHOULD be able to do, so I RMA the board and tell them specifically to test the board at least to 250mhz and preferably at 275 if it CAN. I get this third RMA board yesterday, eager to try it out only to find out it has rebooting issues where I have to hard boot it off then turn it on. So I tried that little dance for a bit testing out the board and now this worthless POS excuse of a board won't boot at all.

:|

I'm very close to having a little convo with abit and then just driving down to fremont, either I'm going to jail for assault or I plan to spend my whole day at abit testing out to see which boards are defective and which aren't.

Update, the third RMA board I recieve is infact dead. After 5 hours of testing in memtest86+ with a max of 235mhz 1:1 (which is pretty bad), I restarted the computer to make some settings but it never booted up. Tried a hardboot again and nothing, reset the cmos and nothing. I believe the motherboard is dead.

Without a doubt I'm going to RMA the board.

Here is the BBB's take on abit.
http://www.goldengatebbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=16284

Comforting to know this considering that I bought the board in the premise that it was quality.. Hmm...

 

[S Freud]

Don't you have to have a license to drive? Don't you have to be 16 or older to have a license?

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

ha

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: S Freud
Don't you have to have a license to drive? Don't you have to be 16 or older to have a license?

generally speaking you need a license to drive, how is this relevant to my post? If I didn't have a license I would probably not drive all the way to fremont by my self..

 

[BAMAVOO]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: S Freud
Don't you have to have a license to drive? Don't you have to be 16 or older to have a license?

generally speaking you need a license to drive, how is this relevant to my post? If I didn't have a license I would probably not drive all the way to fremont by my self..

You know you are only 12 right?

 

[dullard]

Let me get this straight.
1) You are overclocking your memory outside the specs of the motherboard.
2) It doesn't work well.
3) You blame the motherboard manufacturer.
4) You RMA the motherboard multiple times, never once learning that you are pushing it too far.
5) You want to drive down to the motherboard manufacturer and test a bunch of boards (discontinued by the way, so they probably don't have any there) until you find a board that can perform outside of its specs?

Overclocking is great for free performance boosts. Cheaper products at the performance of expensive products is a good thing. However, as soon as the overclocking performance boosts cost far more in time, money, and effort than just buying the faster item, then you are a moron.

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: dullard
Let me get this straight.
1) You are overclocking your memory outside the specs of the motherboard.
2) It doesn't work well.
3) You blame the motherboard manufacturer.
4) You RMA the motherboard multiple times, never once learning that you are pushing it too far.
5) You want to drive down to the motherboard manufacturer and test a bunch of boards (discontinued by the way, so they probably don't have any there) until you find a board that can perform outside of its specs?

Overclocking is great for free performance boosts. Cheaper products at the performance of expensive products is a good thing. However, as soon as the overclocking performance boosts cost far more in time, money, and effort than just buying the faster item, then you are a moron.

Yeah, whats the big deal?

 

[Hyperlite]

blame it on the PSU, thats what i always say

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: dullard
Let me get this straight.
1) You are overclocking your memory outside the specs of the motherboard.
2) It doesn't work well.
3) You blame the motherboard manufacturer.
4) You RMA the motherboard multiple times, never once learning that you are pushing it too far.
5) You want to drive down to the motherboard manufacturer and test a bunch of boards (discontinued by the way, so they probably don't have any there) until you find a board that can perform outside of its specs?

Overclocking is great for free performance boosts. Cheaper products at the performance of expensive products is a good thing. However, as soon as the overclocking performance boosts cost far more in time, money, and effort than just buying the faster item, then you are a moron.

It's hardly 'outside' of it's specs considering that it's considered a 'overclockers board', is known for overclocking at 1:1 272mhz and also up to 400mhz. I'm not expecting clocks that high but it should with out a doubt work at 250mhz and the rep on the phone didn't disagree with me either so this is pretty frustrating, what really gets me is that the mushkin support guy was testing the modules on an 865pe MSI board which was very cheap/crappy and low end at the time and still is (lots of features on the board didn't work) and it was able to test at 1:1 250mhz stable according to mushkin and tested all the way up to 275mhz 1:1 stable as well.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: goku
It's hardly 'outside' of it's specs considering that it's considered a 'overclockers board', is known for overclocking at 1:1 272mhz and also up to 400mhz. I'm not expecting clocks that high but it should with out a doubt work at 250mhz and the rep on the phone didn't disagree with me either so this is pretty frustrating, what really gets me is that the mushkin support guy was testing the modules on an 865pe MSI board which was very cheap/crappy and low end at the time and still is (lots of features on the board didn't work) and it was able to test at 1:1 250mhz stable according to mushkin and tested all the way up to 275mhz 1:1 stable as well.

Again, boo hoo. Overclocking is NOT guaranteed. Results will vary. If you get stuck with a few bad overclocks, your life isn't over and you don't deserve a thing.

 

[mcvickj]

I am surprised that either company is giving you the time of day. Both products work straight out of the box. No where do they guarantee overclocking success. Stop being a cheap and buying low end gear expecting high end performance.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: mcvickj
I am surprised that either company is giving you the time of day. Both products work straight out of the box. No where do they guarantee overclocking success. Stop being a cheap and buying low end gear expecting high end performance.

Um, are you retarded? If you buy PC4000 memory modules, meaning they're RATED at PC4000 speeds, I expect them to RUN at those speeeds. And for the motherboard, the way I see it is they're not working because the RMA boards I get back are simply RMA boards that others sent in because they didn't work either. I know you're thinking I'm whiny for expecting an overclock but you need to admit though that a certain percentage overclock IS expected. I don't see why the board should be a limting factor as cheaper, crappier boards on many others' systems run at higher speeds. Hell other boards of the same model aren't having issues on others' systems.

Funny thing is that every board I've recieved or used had their own, obvious defect such as burning out HDD LEDs, messed up temp probes, or now not working at all. It's a bit annoying that there are members on this forum who act like lawyers..

Fixed, I meant to say HDD LEDs, the hard drives aren't getting burnt out...

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: goku
Funny thing is that every board I've recieved or used had their own, obvious defect such as burning out HDDs, messed up temp probes, or now not working at all.

It is time for you goku, to see what the common link is between all of these unrelated items failing. Hint: it is 4 letters, starting with 'go', and ending with 'ku'.

 

[Mermaidman]

If you keep switching the mobo and the problem persists, isn't it more likely that something else is to blame? (I'm not hardware expert, but I did sleep at a HIX last night)

 

[BoomerD]

So little child...IF you were to make the drive to Fremont, what would you do? Throw one of your infamous ATOT tantrums? Ha-Ha...the Fremont cops would LOVE that...maybe even toss you into the Alameda county PMITA jail/juvenile hall with a bunch of gang-bangers...let them 'splain life to ya...

 

[AnitaPeterson]

PBKAC!

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
PBKAC!

To be honest, I really wish that was true, that way I would eventually be able to figure out the problem and then there wouldn't be a problem anymore. Unfortunately, I've probably spent well over 300 hours, yes, thats is right, 300 hours working on this, and I believe those figures are only for the past few months..

 

[everman]

Sounds like your problems are from an unstable goku.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
PBKAC!

To be honest, I really wish that was true, that way I would eventually be able to figure out the problem and then there wouldn't be a problem anymore. Unfortunately, I've probably spent well over 300 hours, yes, thats is right, 300 hours working on this, and I believe those figures are only for the past few months..

Sounds to me like you need to learn how to cut your losses. Follow these simple steps for success:

1) Get a part time job
2) Work 3 weeks
3) Buy something new here with the money.
4) Continue working
5) Profit!

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
PBKAC!

To be honest, I really wish that was true, that way I would eventually be able to figure out the problem and then there wouldn't be a problem anymore. Unfortunately, I've probably spent well over 300 hours, yes, thats is right, 300 hours working on this, and I believe those figures are only for the past few months..

Sounds to me like you need to learn how to cut your losses. Follow these simple steps for success:

1) Get a part time job
2) Work 3 weeks
3) Buy something new here with the money.
4) Continue working
5) Profit!

I don't need a desktop.
It's the principle of the thing
I already have a job
I already have plenty of money
I'm still going to be pissed and never forgive myself as I've spent a lot of time and money on this system only for it to last for 2 years..
If this was a car, would lemon law apply?

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: goku
I don't need a desktop.
It's the principle of the thing
I already have a job
I already have plenty of money
I'm still going to be pissed and never forgive myself as I've spent a lot of time and money on this system only for it to last for 2 years..
If this was a car, would lemon law apply?

It was your choice to spend 300 hours to save ~$100 in parts by overclocking. It was your choice to run the computer in a state that dramatically shortens its lifespan. Yes, you deserve to be pissed. You deserve to be pissed at yourself.

Lemon laws for cars don't apply to people driving a fully functioning Civic at 125 mph through residential areas and then complaining when the Civic can't handle the corners and eventually crashes.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
PBKAC!

To be honest, I really wish that was true, that way I would eventually be able to figure out the problem and then there wouldn't be a problem anymore. Unfortunately, I've probably spent well over 300 hours, yes, thats is right, 300 hours working on this, and I believe those figures are only for the past few months..

Sounds to me like you need to learn how to cut your losses. Follow these simple steps for success:

1) Get a part time job
2) Work 3 weeks
3) Buy something new here with the money.
4) Continue working
5) Profit!

Winnar...300 hours working on the same problem with no real solution?

Oh wait...maybe that's why you don't have a job

 

[BooGiMaN]

ooooh i bet abit is quaking in their boots think you MIGHT drive down there...

by the way is there anything in the motherboard's literature that guarantees the over clocked speeds you want...

btw isnt overclocking so 80's or 90's

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
ooooh i bet abit is quaking in their boots think you MIGHT drive down there...

by the way is there anything in the motherboard's literature that guarantees the over clocked speeds you want...

btw isnt overclocking so 80's or 90's

LoL. IC7 sounds like hte old northwood days. He can definitely OC that shizzle.

 

[Metron]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
blame it on the PSU, thats what i always say

Try a better power supply...