um, given your previous convictions, shouldn't you be ponying up the $$ to speak to a laywer? You're track record for defending yourself in court isn't exactly great.
Ladies and gentlemen of the supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider: (pulling down a diagram of Chewie) this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk, but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now, think about that. That does not make sense! (jury looks shocked)
Why would a Wookiee -- an eight foot tall Wookiee -- want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense!
But more importantly, you have to ask yourself: what does that have to do with this case? (calmly) Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense!
Look at me, I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca. Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense. None of this makes sense.
And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberating and conjugating the Emancipation Proclamation... does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense.
If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
Later in that same episode, Cochran has a change of heart and defends Chef when Chef sues the record company. Again, he uses the Chewbacca Defense, although with some minor changes:
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, you must now decided whether to reverse the decision for my client Chef. I know he seems guilty, but ladies and gentlemen... (pulling down a diagram of Chewbacca) This is Chewbacca. Now think about that for one moment -- that does not make sense. Why am I talking about Chewbacca when a man's life is on the line? Why? I'll tell you why: I don't know.
It does not make sense. If Chewbacca does not make sense, you must acquit!
(pulling a monkey out of his pocket) Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey! (one of the juror's heads explodes)
Eventually, Chef wins the case and all is well.
http://wiki.yak.net/424
Why would a Wookiee -- an eight foot tall Wookiee -- want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense!
But more importantly, you have to ask yourself: what does that have to do with this case? (calmly) Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense!
Look at me, I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca. Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense. None of this makes sense.
And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberating and conjugating the Emancipation Proclamation... does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense.
If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
Later in that same episode, Cochran has a change of heart and defends Chef when Chef sues the record company. Again, he uses the Chewbacca Defense, although with some minor changes:
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, you must now decided whether to reverse the decision for my client Chef. I know he seems guilty, but ladies and gentlemen... (pulling down a diagram of Chewbacca) This is Chewbacca. Now think about that for one moment -- that does not make sense. Why am I talking about Chewbacca when a man's life is on the line? Why? I'll tell you why: I don't know.
It does not make sense. If Chewbacca does not make sense, you must acquit!
(pulling a monkey out of his pocket) Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey! (one of the juror's heads explodes)
Eventually, Chef wins the case and all is well.
http://wiki.yak.net/424
As I see it, you have no choice but to hire an attorney. Do some googling and you'll see why I'm strongly advising you to do so. Below is from a quick google search I did.
Twenty miles over the speed limit is statutory reckless driving. This is your third charge. Believe me, in court they will look at that, not at the outcomes. They will view you as a persistent offender albeit one who hasn't been convicted, and they might take the view that this is your "third strike," and you've had your chances of getting away with a conviction.
Reckless driving is the same in VA as a DUI. It's a misdemeanor and you face a maximum of one year in jail + a $2500 fine + a possible 6-month loss of driving privileges. It also carries a a 6-point penalty, and your insurance rates will go sky high. It's unlikely that you'd get the maximum, but you'll have a record if you're convicted. Since it's a misdemeanor, the prosecutor is who'll handle the case, not a cop.
Don't take this lightly and don't go into court and plead guilty. You have to hire an attorney for this.
There's a brief FAQ here.. There's also a brief discussion here.
This is someting that you want to take seriously. Get a recommendation for an attorney from someone whose opinion you value.
Twenty miles over the speed limit is statutory reckless driving. This is your third charge. Believe me, in court they will look at that, not at the outcomes. They will view you as a persistent offender albeit one who hasn't been convicted, and they might take the view that this is your "third strike," and you've had your chances of getting away with a conviction.
Reckless driving is the same in VA as a DUI. It's a misdemeanor and you face a maximum of one year in jail + a $2500 fine + a possible 6-month loss of driving privileges. It also carries a a 6-point penalty, and your insurance rates will go sky high. It's unlikely that you'd get the maximum, but you'll have a record if you're convicted. Since it's a misdemeanor, the prosecutor is who'll handle the case, not a cop.
Don't take this lightly and don't go into court and plead guilty. You have to hire an attorney for this.
There's a brief FAQ here.. There's also a brief discussion here.
This is someting that you want to take seriously. Get a recommendation for an attorney from someone whose opinion you value.
MikeyIs4Dcats
Lifer
- Nov 5, 2001
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It's unlikely that the prosecutor will talk to you since you have the right to counsel. Even if you don't have one at the moment, prosecutors won't speak to defendants about their case at the early stage of the proceedings for obvious reasons.
you f**ked either way unless you can proven your innocent! guilty until proven innocent! simple as that. if you had a few citation before that, you wouldn't be legal to drive as it would add up to suspension of your license for a full year!!!
reckless driving violation is a charge of 250, you got suckered lmao. but if you can prove your innocent without a lawyer even better, these stubborn jackasses will not let you go easy because you are a harmless bug to them. its a f**king ripoff, what's reckless to them is not reckless to you because its the way you drive. so its your words against theirs which means war.
Darkstar757
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- Feb 1, 2003
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DO not Plead guilty get a lawyer and try to fight it. the judge will reduce your sentence and you will not loose you license. THis is comming from someone who just did the same thing in Alexandria court.
I got a citation driving home in November from college four years ago; managed to get myself a citation. It was pitch black, and I was an immense fool for driving 81 in a 55 on Route 29. No arrest; all I had to do was pay 104.00 and didn't have to go to court. Took a defensive driving course to clear five points off my license and that was it. Now I stick at 60 mph and rarely go above. You should plead guilty, there's no use to plead otherwise. GL.
This country sucks, wtf do we have to plead guilty even if what we did maybe just the cop's opinions?
That's f**ked up beyond common sense. Are we slaves of the states with little rights or not at all without pickpocket thieves aka lawyers who will make you pay a lot to get off easy even if you are really guilty? I think we're already owned at birth I mean that's why it not innocent until proven guilty, its guilty until proven innocent requiring these ass $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ laywers who only cares about money. They're as evil as stock brokers. screw them.
Taking advantage of the common folks is immoral and I hope someone drives drunk and kill these slimebugs off the planets so they would stop screwing with our lives.
Never plead guilty thinking that it is an easyway out, it isn't. I rather argue with the judge and see what he has to say. I know it won't be what I want to hear but at least you know his other side of self that seem to force crap onto you even he know's you not guilty because their is no witnesses or a 3rd party involved. you did no harm to no one, but the cops thinking that you are a dangerous driver is all they need to convict you.
s***man, if everyone was bitch at them we wouldn't be to so fudged up today. I mean they look at us and think we're stupid and easy to manipulate.
Take a driving course BEFORE you go to court, and then plead guilty... but first talk to the prosecuter... Otherwise you're gonna find yourself taking a course anyway, AND having a 90 day license suspension.
Take this seriously... try to get your charge reduced to a careless driving instead of wreckless driving.
You were by tysons weren't you?
-Max
Take this seriously... try to get your charge reduced to a careless driving instead of wreckless driving.
You were by tysons weren't you?
-Max
A lawyer will cost about $500.
The ticket and increase to your insurance will cost about $1500
You do the math.
The ticket and increase to your insurance will cost about $1500
You do the math.
a lawyer eh? i see their smarter then I think maybe too smart. damn.
most of them asked for too much, that's the problem. and i hate that. what a ripoff.
most people hate them too and so should you. no ones willing to fight their own battle and let a lawyer, an mercenaries who works for the states or the court for the benefit of themselves. 500 + 25 percent charge which are just extra money for the court.
Awesome.
Based on your description of your driving history, you need to take a good hard look at the way you drive or get a bus pass.
a professional at getting hapless victims get off easy? because most don't know what they did was not as bad as the cops thought? you get called a wreckless driving if you change lane without using signal. most people are too easy. they'll just agree on anything the cops say, obviously clueless drivers?
to the ops, are you really guilty???? if not fight it like a man and take it very seriously this is not for you to just say " guilty" and they'll forgive you and give you lighter sentence.
You are obviously daydreaming. Maybe you shouldn't speed and it would had been easy to fight this battle, maybe you shouldn't ran off lanes because it is dangerous and often your tires are going to be blown pricked by many nails on the side of the road.
You sire don't have any patients, maybe the cops is pissed and just wants to teach you a lesson but if what you did was right and cops say your wrong, you wouldn't be inthis situation. You got what you deserved, take this as a learning lesson for the clueless driving may have caused others to do the same thinking what you did was good and right.
Oh well, who say life is fair?
have a nice day.
later...
skyking
Lifer
- Nov 21, 2001
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True that.
OP, I feel your pain. I got many tickets like that when I was your age. Do whatever you need to do to get by this, but you also need to think about after this is over.
Do you have cruise control?
I use it to avoid tickets. I set it at no more than 14 over, under any circumstance. usually I'll cruise at 9 over if the traffic is moving at that pace. It keeps my foot off the pedal.
I have never been run over by traffic at 14 over, so that is not a valid excuse. Let those others pass you up and have the tickets.
why do so many people like to speed? it's seem that it so easy to catch anyone speeding.
I want to be a cop too so I can catch idiots speeding, haha what a good laugh that will be to see them in court pleading guilty for their own stupid action.
I have to agree, speeding is dangerous and so is driving without a seatbelt.
I want to be a cop too so I can catch idiots speeding, haha what a good laugh that will be to see them in court pleading guilty for their own stupid action.
I have to agree, speeding is dangerous and so is driving without a seatbelt.
Demon-Xanth
Lifer
- Feb 15, 2000
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My first ticket was 60 in a 45+reckless. I pleaded guilty to speeding but not reckless driving. They ended up giving me the maximum for the speeding but dropping the reckless driving.
skyking
Lifer
- Nov 21, 2001
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Most of the time, it is a group effort. The traffic gets moving, and nobody likes to get passed up. They also hate to get stuck in the right lane when it grinds down near offramps and such. Drivers also respond to the "pushers", those who will tailgate you.
The cruise control is a big saver for those who can't keep it in check.
The cruise control is a big saver for those who can't keep it in check.
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