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I am thinking about joining the U.S. Army!

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JimboTheConquer

Senior member
And i was wondering what they pay for>?
And also how much i make a month for myself>?
And is it really that hard>?
And do they let u pick what u want to do like😀rive a tank or play w/comp sh!t?
i was wondering because i do not think i am smart enugh to make it through collage for 4 years and i was wondering what yall think? i would like to join and get out and take a 2 year collage with the money they give me for computers or somthing els that i found intrest through the army.
Thanks
-Jimbo
 
I say go for it. I have a step-sister that joined the Navy for just about the same reasons. She went in under the ROTC (no idea what it means), and shes learning computer programming and will be making a sh1t load of money when she gets out.
 


<< And i was wondering what they pay for>?
And also how much i make a month for myself>?
And is it really that hard>?
And do they let u pick what u want to do likerive a tank or play w/comp sh!t? >>


I can tell you from experience that it's not about the money, and if you are doing it for that, then find a different job. You will make more money doing something else. I was a Ranger and it was the most satisfying thing I have ever done or probably will do in my life. Not once did I think about the money through the whole ordeal. It's about teamwork, comerraderie(sp?) and fighting for all Americans so they can have the freedom in the future that I enjoy now. It is hard, basic is easy physically, but not mentally, and you don't always get what you sign up for. I wish you much luck, but, if you only do it for the money, or worry about if it's hard or not, you'll be buried and I suggest you don't do it. Think about being a Ranger if you do decide to go through with it, they are a rare breed and they will teach you to do things you never thought humanly possible. Good Luck!
 
nomahatie how much do u weigh and how much do u bench...just wonderin!
hey and did u prepare like jog and stuff before u went in!?

-Jimbo
 


<< nomahatie how much do u weigh and how much do u bench...just wonderin! >>


I weigh between about 230-235, I can't bench much now, I'm 35 now and can only bench about 360, back then I did 445. It's not about how strong you are though, it's all in the mind. The Army will teach how to overcome limits. It would be in your best interest to work out as much as possible before you go in. Do pushups,pullups,situps and jog up to 5 miles a day. Work up to it,not at first.
 


<< jog up to 5 miles a day >>



5 english miles? that is nothing...

I used to be a part of the Swedish &quot;kustj&auml;gare&quot; the equivalent of the american Navy Seals, i wore a green beret and if they would have asked me to jog 5 english miles i would have laughed at them because i would have known they were joking... try 15 miles a day...

Patrick
 


<< And i was wondering what they pay for>? >>


Food, clothing, and monthly base pay...



<< And also how much i make a month for myself>? >>


Not much to be honest, but considering most everything work related is covered-(breakfast, lunch, dinner) it's not too bad... I don't know the exact figures currently..



<< And is it really that hard>? >>


Todays ARMY is easy, however they still demand you follow the rules. At work ON-TIME, dress neat, and clean, Hair cuts are a HUGE deal. etc..



<< And do they let u pick what u want to do like😀rive a tank or play w/comp sh!t? >>


Yes and No. Go take the test, the score you get will qualify or disqualify you for certain jobs... They like to push you into certain jobs that are currently low on personel, tell them what you want in-order to join.

College, you don't have to attend a 4yr school. Hit the local 2yr school, then decide if your ready for more. College is actually not all about smarts, it's about desire to learn. When you find the courses that interest you, then your desire to learn/attend will get you through. Sure some courses will be tough, but who can say they didn't have a few tough courses? The only people i know that have failed/dropped out, were people that had no desire to attend classes, or do the required work-(we all know a few). Sure, we don't all qualify for Harvard, but that hasn't stopped non-Harvard people from being successful...

The G.I. Bill is money YOU recieve once the school proves you are attending classes. The money goes straight to you, not the school. If you attend a school that costs $1000 a year, or $10,000 a year, you still recieve the same amount of money. So first you pay for the classes-(out of your pocket), then YOU get checks every month or so... If you fail a class though they reduce your next few checks to recover the money you didn't earn. If done wisely-(decent school, decent tuition) you can make a few extra dollars through the G.I Bill...

Good Luck...


 


<< I used to be a part of the Swedish &quot;kustj&auml;gare&quot; the equivalent of the american Navy Seals, i wore a green beret and if they would have asked me to jog 5 english miles i would have laughed at them because i would have known they were joking... try 15 miles a day... >>


Well I was giving him my advice on what to work up to before he goes in. I think he's going in pretty soon so I said 5. You don't start out at 15.
 
ROTC = Reserve Officer's Training Corps

Go to college and take a few military courses, do basic and some training in the summers. When you graduate you do 2 years full time in whatever service you join and then serve as an officer in the reserve for x number of years.

They help pay for school while you are there. Do that and you can pick your assignement.


When I was 29, I looked into joining the reserve. With my masters degree, they would have let me pick what I wanted. I was 1 year too old to learn how to fly Cobras 🙁. In the end I didn't do it, but at your age it might be a good idea.
 


<<

<< ROTC (no idea what it means) >>

prolly Routine Officer Training Course? >>



Reserve Officer Training Corps

I believe this is only available while you are attending college.
OCS used to be the means to become an Officer if you were already an enlisted person.




<< The best answer to your question would be to talk to a recruiting office in your area. >>

 
Ahh, just remembered the G.I. Bill money calculation...

In 97 it was worth $14,500
You only get paid while attending classes, not during summer break.

So we take 14,500 over 4yrs, 9months a year for school =
9*4 = 36
14,500/36 = $402 a month

$3,625yr, so if school cost $2,100yr you keep the extra $1,525 each year.

Yea, thats about right. It was few years ago so the G.I. Bil may be worth more now...
 
OCS = Officer Candidate School

You have to go through it in order to become an officer (assuming you are qualified)
 
i agree with the person who said it can't be about the money, it has to be b/c you really want that kind of lifestyle. There will be sacrifices, but also benefits too. Also consider the other branches of the armed forces as well.
 
you wont get a lot of money out of it. the money you made, eventually you will have to pay them back for food and shelter so its your money/2 except your signing bonus. good luck on your choices.
 
As a former Navy Recruiter, let me ask you this?
What do you like to do?
What do you want out of life?
what do you need to get that?
How will that benifit you in the future?

those are the questions you need to ask yourself. The Army recruiter will probably ask you those questions, but just in a different manner. As a Navy Recruiter, I asked those questions. The recruiter will then sell his branch of the service to those wants, needs, Dominate buying Motive. If he can fullfill those, you will join.

As a former recruiter, I will tell you to join the service that will give you the most for you. You may or may not know if you want to make it a career. Most people can not answer that question in the first two years they are in. Do yourself a favor, and look at the other services also. I do not know if the Army has an Information Technology jobs for solders, but I do now that the Navy does. I have a couple of friends in that job specialty and they are highly sought after by civilian companies. I am an Aviation Electronics Technician, and a lot of companies have tried to hire me also. I have stayed because I like working on airplanes, and like my job. There have been times that I have had to put in long hours and long weeks.
Each service will stress you out at some point in time with long work hours, and long weeks. That is part of the job. In some of my previous jobs, I had great job satisfaction at the end of every day. As a young sailor or solder, you are going to get some not pretty jobs(read crap jobs).
As far as pay goes, the longer you are in, and the more you advance, the more you will make each month. Here are the pay charts for the current year. http://www.dfas.mil/money/milpay/pay/. the military gets a pay raise every jan. The last two years we have also got a small raise in July also. You have to pay no rent, food is provided, along with your clothes. Not sure about the Army, but in the Navy, when you get a little seniority, you can move out of the barracks and into town and rent a house or apartment. They will give you money to help cover those expenses. Sometimes they cover all the rent and utilities, and sometimes they don't. It depends on the cost of those in the area that you live.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. I will give you a straight answer. No Bull here.

Navy
 


<< Well I was giving him my advice on what to work up to before he goes in. I think he's going in pretty soon so I said 5. You don't start out at 15. >>



I stand corrected.

Patrick
 
navylinux, nice advice...

The major difference between ARMY, NAVY, and AIR FORCE.

ARMY-prepare to get dirty, and ALOT. Foods ok, housing is ok, you get the idea right? Everything is ok... After 8 1/2 yrs i had seen and done all i wanted-world travel. I do think the ARMY promotes people faster, so you actually end-up making more money. But, when you add in the fact the ARMY parties hard, and your drinking buddies ALWAYS want to party, you'll be broke either way. 🙂

NAVY and AIR FORCE are VERY similar-where the ARMY has ok stuff, the NAVY and AIR FORCE have nicer stuff. Straight truth: better housing, better food, and perhaps a slightly better resume after you get out-(depending on the job you pick).

In the ARMY i was, you'll love these long descriptions:
Aircraft Armament Missle Systems Specialist
Basically i worked on the electronics and weapon systems of the ARMY's attack helicopters. Total blast, never regret joining for a minute.

Good Luck...
 
I did four years active and then a couple on weekend warrior duty. I loved it. I go paid to do things a lot of people on dream about.

It also forced me to grow up and has helped me quite a bit through life. You get a sense of who you really are.

I made rank quicker than most, E-1 to E-5 in less than 3 years, the pay was OK, the benefits pretty good, free food, free housing, etc. Jumped out of airplanes (hence the nickname), went to several countries. It was good for me and I would recommend it to almost anyone.

My advice:
Listen to what they tell you and do it.
Learn when and when not to volunteer.
Work your butt off.
 


<< Why would you want to join the army?? >>



If your serious, i'll drop a few answers...

-challenging
-learn about your own limitations, and pass a few you thought you had.
-respect for yourself and other people-(in the ARMY i learned what it means to truly trust another person: jumping from aircraft can kill you, unless you trust other people)
-earn the respect for serving your country, that NOBODY can ever take away from you.
-learn responsibility-for doing good work, and worth while work.
-travel: in the ARMY when you travel you don't use HOTELS and MOTELS so you really see how other cultures live.

If you need more I'm sure the others can add more...
 
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